Matt & Jacob & Wheeler & Pray for Noah: The 2015 "Sustainable Model" New York Mets

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why? i'm curious

Van Horn Street, Friday, 19 June 2015 01:47 (nine years ago) link

The outcome seems to prove that he was not ready in every way.

I wonder when a first-place team last started the season 10-21 on the road.

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 June 2015 11:26 (nine years ago) link

xp the cliche is that the biggest gap between minor league levels is from high-a to double-a, but it seems more or less true. at the lower levels you can get by on sheer talent, but at a certain point you also need to have an 'approach', i.e. a more detailed plan than just throw hard or see ball/hit ball. triple-a veterans lack the tools, but they know what they're doing, and akeel morris has never consistently faced a lineup that knew what it was doing.

players at high-a just aren't that good. in 2012 the st. lucie mets were the best team in the florida state league; three years later the regulars who have gone on to the most success are daniel muno and wilmer flores (who was really young for that level then).

despite this being morris' sixth pro year (at age 22!), he's only thrown 248 innings. he's always been hard to hit, but only last year established decent command. his highest-level experience is this year in the fsl, which is the most pitcher-friendly minor league.

his stuff -- a low-to-mid-90s fastball and a good changeup -- is good enough to baffle low minor leaguers, but he can neither blow his fastball past the highest-scoring team in the majors nor fool it with his change.

the mets needed an arm and since he was headed north anyway (he's now at double-a binghamton) maybe they were all what the hell. and they were losing that game anyway iirc. but it seems a case of throwing a dude in the deep end well before he can swim, and we'll see how he bounces back.

there might be others, but the only dude i remember recently basically jumping straight from a-ball to the majors (albeit with an offseason inbetween) is jose fernandez.

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 June 2015 01:21 (nine years ago) link

10-22 on the road

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 June 2015 03:00 (nine years ago) link

great explanation mookie, thanks!

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 20 June 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link

to all the fathers out there, happy birthday

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 June 2015 12:10 (nine years ago) link

Harvey better go the full 9, bcz i can't imagine the Metsies scoring before then.

i guess no one has ever directly explained the predictive worthlessness of "9-for-18" close & late SSS clutchiness to Keith. God i wish he would stfu about them.

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 June 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link

The truth of the 2015 Mets probably lies somewhere north of the 68-win pace they’ve operated at since April 24, but I don’t see holding them to the standard of their record over slightly more than a third of the current season as somehow unfair. This is the team that’s going out and playing the games that count. In a parallel universe in which all variables are delightfully controlled, nobody vital has been injured, everybody worthwhile has been inked to sub-market contracts and distant potential has translated into immediately pleasing reality, the Mets are probably kicking Atlanta ass and taking Washington names.

In this one, they’ve scored 13 runs in their past 66 innings and looked like rank amateurs for the better part of a week.

http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2015/06/22/the-thoroughly-lost-weekend/

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 June 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link

sss, but conforto is hitting .378/.477/.622 in his first 20 double-a games

mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/sGmpMre.png

mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link

that d'Arnaud is sposed to be back

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link

nope, back on the DL

mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 21:57 (nine years ago) link

playoff odds down from 46% to 19% in last week

that was quick

good seats for the next 3 months

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 June 2015 12:22 (nine years ago) link

they're only 3.5 behind in the division, 4.5 in the WC! I don't think all is lost for the yung metropolitans just yet

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 25 June 2015 12:43 (nine years ago) link

rosenthal thinks matz is coming up

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 June 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link

why not? they suck!

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 June 2015 03:22 (nine years ago) link

1-1 suspended by rain in the 7th resumes tomorrow... which means Matz's debut will occur at TIME UNKNOWN.

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 June 2015 23:48 (nine years ago) link

dillon gee's first triple-a game: 5 IP, 6 R, 7 H, 6 K

he got the win in las vegas' 20-8 victory

also kirk nieuwenhuis has six homers in his first nine games for them!

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 June 2015 01:52 (nine years ago) link

matz shd hit 3rd next start

johnny crunch, Sunday, 28 June 2015 23:06 (nine years ago) link

last debuting starter w/ 4 RBI?

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 28 June 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link

none

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 June 2015 23:55 (nine years ago) link

ANTHONY RECKER is yr pacific coast league player of the week

mookieproof, Monday, 29 June 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link

did he drop his pants?

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 04:16 (nine years ago) link

The 2015 Mets' starting pitchers are one of only two post-1969 staffs with a walk rate below five percent.

http://www.amazinavenue.com/2015/6/30/8775849/mets-pitchers-walks-matt-harvey-jacob-degrom-noah-syndergaard

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link

it would be remiss of ilb not to wish the mets and their fans a happy bonilla day

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 July 2015 00:34 (nine years ago) link

direct your comments to Al Harazin then sit n' spin

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 July 2015 00:47 (nine years ago) link

HEY KEITH HERNANDEZ, BUNTING IS A SHIT PLAY. READ SOME BLOGS.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 July 2015 01:39 (nine years ago) link

Daniel Murphy is not a major-league defender.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 July 2015 01:51 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI8PT02WcAQ4wfV.png

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 July 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link

trade something inconsequential and get horrible matt kemp is my prediction/hope

johnny crunch, Thursday, 2 July 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link

sny had a "beat the booth" trivia show - part of it was password style, the clue to get was "paul lo duca" and howie was like "06 catcher" …. "loves horses" *time expires*

idk that is hysterical right

johnny crunch, Thursday, 2 July 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link

& a fan tried to guess k-rod and called him "kendrick rodriguez"

johnny crunch, Thursday, 2 July 2015 23:52 (nine years ago) link

bitch don't k my vibe/9

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Friday, 3 July 2015 02:53 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI_y9ufW8AAu5oO.jpg

mookieproof, Friday, 3 July 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link

using your hat is ironically the best way to catch a decapitated head flying at you

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Friday, 3 July 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/it-s-the-time-of-year-where-the-mets-pay-bobby-bonilla-for-being-retired-180327650.html

"Due to a strange clause in his contract, Bonilla will receive close to $1.2 million from the Mets once a year until 2035."

earlnash, Friday, 3 July 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link

weird how they always paint it like bonilla pulled some crazy trick on the poor unsuspecting mets... like i thought they couldn't afford to pay him, so they worked out a plan where he would defer the payments and basically get the $ + standard interest later?

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Friday, 3 July 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link

wasnt it too that the mets were getting a steady 12% from madoff @ the time so were putting as much toward that as possible? like it wasn't an unwise business decision iirc

johnny crunch, Friday, 3 July 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link

could everyone plz stfu on Bonilla for all time.

Collins on trying to stir the offense: "The only thing left is human sacrifice."

Or Michael Conforto.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 July 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link

only until next july 1 obvs

mookieproof, Friday, 3 July 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link

who u gonna trade for a hitter?

harvey
degrom
syndergaard
matz
(wheeler)

mookieproof, Sunday, 5 July 2015 22:27 (eight years ago) link

Bartolo

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 July 2015 23:44 (eight years ago) link

oh, Nieuwenhuis is back w/ the big club and just doubled -- doubled! -- in the 9th

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 04:13 (eight years ago) link

J.D. (PA)
Keith, Conforto continues to hit AA pitching. I'm actually in favor of getting him some ABs while Cuddyer rests up, but at the very least he should be in AAA, right? I've never understood the Mets handling of him.

Klaw (1:11 PM)
I don't understand the Mets' handling of their prospects overall. It seems like they're horribly slow to promote hitters - Dom Smith should probably be in AA, Conforto should have started in AA and be in AAA or the majors by now.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 21:39 (eight years ago) link

dom smith didn't start hitting at all until june and still has only two homers (as a first baseman) in 70 games. and he just turned 20 last month.

conforto should have started full-season ball last summer rather than going to brooklyn, but at least they did jump him to high-a this spring. considering their struggles offensively, and cuddyer's injury, and conforto's performance in double-a, it does seem like they should be giving him a gallo-like shot. (i'm not sure that playing triple-a in a place like vegas would prepare him much for the majors)

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 22:07 (eight years ago) link

@Mike_Vorkunov
It's a weird world when a minor league affiliate can question its major league's team lineup via interwebs

Las Vegas 51s @LasVegas51s
@Mets where's Nieuwenhuis in the lineup today? 51s lit up Peavey in LV last week. Capt Kirk hit two HRs off Jake in his last rehab start.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

I'm going Saturday, hope to sell my Lagares bobblehead afterward for a cool C-note.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link

0-0 in the 5th, you mean again, wau how unlikely

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 20:57 (eight years ago) link

4 of the Mets' 8 "hitters" have sub-.290 OBPs.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 21:01 (eight years ago) link


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