just using my eyes, the Atlanta way!
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link
o i c.
― Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm curious, Steve, what fielding statistics do you have that indicates that Barry's an improved fielder over the course of the last year. Cuz FRAA has him at a dismal -10 and his Revised Zone Rating is .834 which is basically better than Chris Duncan and Adam Dunn and not much else.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link
No way he has to be better than Cliff Floyd, Luis Gonzalez and Pat Burrell... the last thing I looked at (HardballTimes I think?) had him in the top 10 LFs in MLB. I'm not saying that's an improvement over the automatic write-in Gold Glove vote, I just think the Morbiusian mainstream media view has never been put to a test (because of the nebulousness of defensive stats?)
Would it be too much to focus on the fact that his 2007 offensive metrics are tracking at/above his career #s! Or is that less interesting than his defensive FRAA?
― Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 00:21 (sixteen years ago) link
shit "10 LFs in MLB" where MLB = NL
― Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link
He's 13 out of 19 on Hardballtimes list of LF for the MLB on RZR (not sure what their cut off is--Floyd isn't even on the list.) You are correct that Gonzalez and Burrell are even worse by RZR (and Manny is even even worse than that apparently) but by no means is Bonds an impressive defensive LF anymore and he was a pretty strong one by most statistical metrics when he was young.
His offensive year is indisputably very impressive. Pity the Giants surrounded him with nonsense.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 00:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Record-breaking Bonds ball nets $752,467
John Wildermuth, Chronicle Staff Writer
Saturday, September 15, 2007
(09-15) 18:58 PDT Mission Viejo, Orange County -- The winning bid on Saturday night for Giant slugger Barry Bonds' record-breaking 756th shot was $752,467, well above expectations, while the shot to tie Hank Aaron's career home run record sold for $186,750.
The prices included the required 20 percent buyer's premium, which were added to the final bid. There were a total of 11 bids on home run ball number 755, which Bonds hit in San Diego on Aug. 4, and 31 bids on the tie-breaker.
The final price for 755 was only slightly below the $200,000 many memorabilia experts expected.
But the big prize was the record-breaker, and bidders had their checkbooks out for the ball that Matt Murphy, a contract supervisor from New York, plucked out of the stands at AT&T Park on Aug. 7.
A slow start to the bidding, which began Aug. 28, had naysayers suggesting that Bonds' links to baseball's steroid scandal, as well as his less-than-sunny personality, would keep the price of the record-breaking ball down. But the bidding took off Saturday and the ball more than doubled in price, soaring above the $500,000 experts expected it to bring.
Bids for the ball had reached $301,625 by the 1 p.m. end of the initial phase of the online auction.
But in the world of big bucks, online auctions, that's little more than a starting point for the effort to squeeze every possible dollar out of the object up for bid.
Anyone who cast one of 16 bids in the first part of the auction was allowed to jump back in and boost the offer in the extended auction, which continued until 3 p.m.
But even that didn't mark the end. Under rules set by Sotheby's-SCP Auctions, the Mission Viejo auction house, the bidding continued after 3 p.m., going on until no one increased the offer for at least 30 minutes. Each time a new bid was made, that 30-minute countdown clock was reset.
The clock ran down to seven seconds at 4:20 p.m., when a bidder jumped in with an offer of $467, 918, $22,000 more than the previous high bid. At 6 p.m., there was about a minute left when a bid for $627,056 was recorded.
There was a lot less suspense for home run ball No. 755, which tied Aaron's record. There was only a single winning bid made after the 3 p.m. close, one of 11 offers.
The estimates for the record-breaking ball were well below the $1 million that Heritage Auction Galleries originally offered well before Bonds' record-shattering blast. But the company withdrew that offer in June, citing concerns about the safety of fans scrambling for the ball and the company's potential liability.
Many memorabilia dealers believe the really big price will be for Bonds' final home run. That ball will represent baseball's career home run record, which for Bonds is now at 762 and counting.
When it comes to sports records, however, there are never guarantees. When St. Louis Cardinal Mark McGwire shattered the single-season home run record by slamming 70 in 1998, cartoonist Todd McFarlane paid $3 million for the ball, figuring the record could stand as long as the one Roger Maris set in 1961.
Bad call. Three years later, Bonds hit 73 home runs, breaking the record and sending the value of McGwire's ball plummeting.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 16 September 2007 04:09 (sixteen years ago) link
justin (ny, ny): I hear bonds talking about how he wants to play next year, but is there any team willing to sign him? What do you think will happen?
Jayson Stark: (1:34 PM ET ) Here's my team to watch on that front: Texas.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 21 September 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link
any of you sabermetricly inclined financial whizzes want to post estimates on:
1) club he plays for next year 2) more importantly, salary?
― sanskrit, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link
bonds to red sox oh plzzzzzzzz
― jhøshea, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link
2 problems there: 1) David Ortiz 2) Manny Ramirez
― Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link
i mean i know id be the last brick in the sox are basically the yankees now house but i dont care bring on baaaaaarrrry
― jhøshea, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link
im not really looking at this from a logical pov
imagine the crazy lovable/douche juxtaposition if ortiz/bonds hit back to back
― jhøshea, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Doesn't Barry hate Boston? Sry jhose. ;_;
― Leee, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link
barry hates all - he is a hateful man
boston media + bonds = match made in heaven
― jhøshea, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link
would the Sox move Manny if they could sign A-Rod and Barry this winter? hahahaha
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link
oh dear god how i would love to see bonds with boston next year
― sanskrit, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link
but what's his salary this year? 15.8MM? what's the lowest offer he might take in 2008 that doesn't bruise his ego too much?
― sanskrit, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 18:46 (sixteen years ago) link
it wasn't 20M this year?
How about 8 + incentives?
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link
The Tigers have used something like 10 left fielders this year and could benefit in '08 from cutting the number down to three or four. But hey, like a couple writers in Detroit have said, Bonds' best years are behind him and he hasn't even hit 30 HRs this year. He is paid to hit home runs, after all. (And besides, with a .483 OBP he is clearly a base clogger.)
― Andy K, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Last 8 hours to vote on the 756 Ball's fate!
http://www.vote756.com/marcecko/
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 20:11 (sixteen years ago) link
if space doesnt win ill be really disappointed
― jhøshea, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link
D) Place in high-speed pitching machine, shoot it off my face.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link
ooh - i like that one!
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 00:30 (sixteen years ago) link
it wasn't 20M this year?How about 8 + incentives?-- Dr Morbius, Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:19 PM (5 hours ago)
-- Dr Morbius, Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:19 PM (5 hours ago)
it was $15.8 plus $5 in incentives (based on criteria which his agent says he easily surpassed).
― Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 01:08 (sixteen years ago) link
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/09/26/sports/baseball/ecko.190.jpg
― mizzell, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah i voted brand. though it really should be six or seven brands, so if it ever makes it to a display case, the hof can't obscure it
― sanskrit, Thursday, 27 September 2007 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link
where's that Gaylord Perry-Whitey Ford-Don Sutton brand?
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 27 September 2007 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link
boooooring come on space space is an awesome place.
apparently the hall can agreed to not obscure the brand in any way
― jhøshea, Thursday, 27 September 2007 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link
has agreed
that sucks, i guess Bonds will be taking all of his gear back from the HOF....
― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 27 September 2007 23:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Gilbert Areans, I love you even more.
― Leee, Friday, 28 September 2007 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link
"Like, who are you? Are you Superman?" is so totally my new shutdown comeback.
― Leee, Friday, 28 September 2007 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link
i'm not even sure who that guy is but i like the cut of his jib
― sanskrit, Saturday, 29 September 2007 02:54 (sixteen years ago) link
heguag (Louisville): Where does Barry play in '08?
Gary Huckabay: Anaheim, for the league minimum, after ARod signs there, and they trade for Johan Santana.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 8 October 2007 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link
For Shasta: http://www.insidebayarea.com/turn2/ci_7201582
xoxox
― Leee, Thursday, 18 October 2007 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link
For Leee: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/78/155391987_11c01a5369.jpg
xoxoxoxox
― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 18 October 2007 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link
If you're 756 Ball fuckin', I ain't inductin'.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3090631
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 2 November 2007 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link
no surprise there
― am0n, Friday, 2 November 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Can't watch this at work, but wtf is my first instinct.
― Leee, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link
i like his "Barry Bonds" jersey.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link
i hope he just wears that next season.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 18:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Tampa Bay is preparing an offer.
― Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 05:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Barry Bonds is the Devil Ray?
― mattbot, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 13:47 (sixteen years ago) link
He should go to Japan and break Oh's record.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 14:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Gah.
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Lolarussa wanted him but management said NO.
― bnw, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link
What was the general feeling among Cardinal fans about signing him? I think the thing that might have turned Beane off was that A's die-hards seemed so resolutely opposed to the idea.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link
kenny rogers era right now is 6.66
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 25 May 2008 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link