Conceding James has a heavy bias here, I think this is an excellent breakdown of why Verlander's big bWAR advantage over Porcello is illusory.
http://www.billjamesonline.com/porlander_and_vercello/
― clemenza, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 01:13 (seven years ago) link
sean forman's response (to pos, not james): https://twitter.com/sean_forman/status/800775742724325376
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link
So James is saying Verlander would have given up just as many hits on balls in play even with a great defense behind him? If that's true, what does it mean to say that the Tigers were 50 runs worse than average on defense? It means they should have given up more hits than the average defense, which translates into more runs, unless they so happened to be not as bad when Verlander pitched. I think this is Forman's point ...?
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link
more on various WARs: http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18114272/miller-going-war-mystery-robbie-ray
― mookieproof, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link
that's a fantastic article
― k3vin k., Friday, 25 November 2016 03:14 (seven years ago) link
yes
― mookieproof, Saturday, 26 November 2016 04:52 (seven years ago) link
Rick Porcello, Anthony Rendon Win 2016 MLB Comeback Player of the Year Awards
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link