https://sports.yahoo.com/new-details-in-astros-cheating-scandal-put-carlos-beltrans-legacy-in-jeopardy-230153436.html
sure ok "innocent astros"
― omar little, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link
jesus this organization
https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/02/13/astros-owner-on-sign-stealing-our-opinion-is-this-didnt-impact-the-game
― mookieproof, Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:19 (four years ago) link
What a shit show of a press conference . Ban this fucking team from the game
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link
It's asking a bit much to expect a detached billionaire owner to take responsibility for actions by his "low level employees" (doubtlessly how he sees them). I'm not sure what people were expecting from this. Not to mention that Crane was exonerated by Manfred's report, which was a whole other load of BS, but it means that Crane really isn't obligated to comment on this at all.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 14 February 2020 08:31 (four years ago) link
xp otm
― johnny crunch, Friday, 14 February 2020 12:38 (four years ago) link
xp Crane is very obligated to comment on it, he’s the owner of the team. Also, good leaders take responsibility instead of running away from it. They’re gonna get the fuck booed out of them all year
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link
it's going to be hilarious
― omar little, Friday, 14 February 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link
I haven't been paying super close attention the last couple of weeks -- have all the sanctions from the league come down or are we waiting for more?
― Miami weisse (WmC), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:29 (four years ago) link
still waiting on sox
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:33 (four years ago) link
according to passan, crane is also lying
Then came the 2018 postseason. During the American League Division Series, a man named Kyle McLaughlin, whom Crane brought into the Astros organization, was caught pointing a cellphone toward the Cleveland Indians' dugout from an on-field camera well. He was removed from the area. The Indians warned the Astros' AL Championship Series opponent, the Boston Red Sox, about McLaughlin, and during Game 1 of the ALCS, he was again removed from a camera well next to the dugout.I wrote a story about the McLaughlin incidents, and in it, I reported that the Oakland A's had accused the Astros of relaying pitch types to batters during an August series. Further, I reported, two major league players had said they witnessed the Astros hitting a trash can in the dugout as a way to alert hitters.Again: This was in 2018, more than a year before Crane claims he learned of the issue. The day after the story was published, Crane told another reporter to leave McLaughlin's name out of his story. Clearly Crane knew that a story about McLaughlin had been written. Either he learned of the story's details or avoided them altogether. The former would make him a liar. The latter would make him an owner who ignores potentially injurious information about his billion-dollar business.
I wrote a story about the McLaughlin incidents, and in it, I reported that the Oakland A's had accused the Astros of relaying pitch types to batters during an August series. Further, I reported, two major league players had said they witnessed the Astros hitting a trash can in the dugout as a way to alert hitters.
Again: This was in 2018, more than a year before Crane claims he learned of the issue. The day after the story was published, Crane told another reporter to leave McLaughlin's name out of his story. Clearly Crane knew that a story about McLaughlin had been written. Either he learned of the story's details or avoided them altogether. The former would make him a liar. The latter would make him an owner who ignores potentially injurious information about his billion-dollar business.
― mookieproof, Friday, 14 February 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link
the classic question: is he a dumbass, is he a liar, or is he a dumbass liar
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:32 (four years ago) link
day-um
You can see how visibly pissed Cody Bellinger is when talking about the Astros pic.twitter.com/QUXiNwzbxd— Blake Harris (@BlakeHarrisTBLA) February 14, 2020
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:54 (four years ago) link
How many bench-clearing brawls for the Astros this year? Assume teams will be coming for them.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:25 (four years ago) link
yep it's gonna be a long year for Houston
― omar little, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:30 (four years ago) link
lol
The Houston Astros and their 'handling' of the sign-stealing scandal has led some SoCal Little League groups to ban the team from their names. Like in Long Beach: 'Parents are disgusted ... with the Astros and their lack of ownership and accountability.' https://t.co/Ox49MKZjNP— Brian Martin (@TheBMartin) February 14, 2020
― mookieproof, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link
The internet is undefeated...🤣💀 pic.twitter.com/uIj1wt1W3w— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) February 14, 2020
― Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link
disappointing they don't play the Dodgers in the regular season but they do have a September series at Yankees Stadium which is probably gonna get pretty rowdy
― frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link
I mean every Yankees fan probably believes 100% that the ALCS walkoff vs. Chapman was illegitimate
― frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link
I was referring to the question about Crane taking personal responsibility for any of this. Whether he knew about the cheating or not, Manfred let him off the hook, and he can claim that the guilty parties have been punished. There's not a single owner in baseball that would admit to anything more if placed on the same situation.
The fact that he botched his message during his press conference is another thing entirely.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:25 (four years ago) link
Fresh walk up music for Jose
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0P6zEU_G9v4
― omar little, Sunday, 16 February 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link
this is really not going well. manfred was super pissy today about media reporting on it
― mookieproof, Sunday, 16 February 2020 22:57 (four years ago) link
The Braves' organist can be pretty sassy with opposing-player walkup music -- last time I saw them it was against the Astros and he used both "It's a Small World" and the Muppet Show theme for Altuve. My money's on heavy use of "Bang the Drum All Day" when they play in September.
― Miami weisse (WmC), Sunday, 16 February 2020 23:07 (four years ago) link
Only caught tweets of like every manfred answer at the press conference but every single one makes him sound like more of a scumbag
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Monday, 17 February 2020 00:28 (four years ago) link
What a slippery little weasel
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Monday, 17 February 2020 00:29 (four years ago) link
Selig was a different sort of transparent weasel
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 February 2020 01:44 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3LM2iQ8p7A
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 17 February 2020 02:26 (four years ago) link
Carlos Correa has the Jesus lines^
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 17 February 2020 02:27 (four years ago) link
I never in a million years thought I would ever miss Commissioner Bud Selig.To be clear, I don't miss Commissioner Bud Selig. But I'm not sure he could have handled this crisis any worse.— Rany Jazayerli (@jazayerli) February 16, 2020
― mookieproof, Monday, 17 February 2020 04:28 (four years ago) link
lol astros
Astros pitcher Francis Martes suspended 162 games without pay after testing positive for Boldenone, a performance-enhancing drug. He was previously suspended for a similar violation in March.— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) February 17, 2020
― Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Monday, 17 February 2020 22:38 (four years ago) link
Atlanta Braves outfielder Nick Markakis has joined the chorus blasting the Houston Astros over their sign-stealing scandal, telling reporters "every single guy over there needs a beating.""It's anger," Markakis told reporters of his reaction to the Astros' scandal and the ensuing response. "I feel like every single guy over there needs a beating. It's wrong. They're messing with people's careers."Markakis did not elaborate on what would constitute a "beating." At least two pitchers have indicated that they would consider throwing at Astros batters, and William Hill sportsbook set an over/under of 83.5 for Houston hit-by-pitches in 2020, a number that would rank as one of the 10 highest in the previous five seasons.
"It's anger," Markakis told reporters of his reaction to the Astros' scandal and the ensuing response. "I feel like every single guy over there needs a beating. It's wrong. They're messing with people's careers."
Markakis did not elaborate on what would constitute a "beating." At least two pitchers have indicated that they would consider throwing at Astros batters, and William Hill sportsbook set an over/under of 83.5 for Houston hit-by-pitches in 2020, a number that would rank as one of the 10 highest in the previous five seasons.
― omar little, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link
that would be a fun over to put your entire life savings on
― frogbs, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link
lol now lebron is weighing in
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 22:35 (four years ago) link
Love this Justin Turner quote: “Calling the World Series trophy a piece of metal, I mean, I don’t know if the commissioner has ever won anything in his life. Maybe he hasn’t. But the reason every guy is in this room, the reason every guy is working out all offseason and showing up to camp early and putting in all the time and effort is specifically for that trophy, which, by the way, is called the Commissioner’s Trophy. So for him to devalue it the way he did yesterday tells me how out of touch he is with the players in this game. At this point, the only thing devaluing that trophy is that it says ‘Commissioner’ on it.”
― Miami weisse (WmC), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link
it's pretty crazy to see baseball players talking like this about the league, never seen that before
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:09 (four years ago) link
good turner quote.
i think the players' outspokenness is a combo of (obviously) the scale of what the astros did and their idiotic communications to the public afterward, the upcoming bargaining agreement negotiations, and (going out on a limb here) possibly a greater level of awareness of labor issues in general.
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:13 (four years ago) link
it is pretty wild
KM otm, i think it's just that teams work very hard to implement systems of signals and strategy and even when guys uh "organically" or "artisanally" try to steal a sign here and there they'll get a ball in and high next time up. or god forbid a guy should try to break up a no hitter with a certain type of hit.
also for the Astros to have a team-wide communications system means the gloves are really off now. other teams feel like they were totally duped by these guys.
― omar little, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link
it's not the conspiracy, it's the coverup
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link
i think it was turner who also mentioned that a) teams having to constantly change signs/have meetings creates pace-of-play issues much bigger than intentional walks, and b) being a pitcher who ends up standing 55 feet away from a hitter who knows what's coming is fucking dangerous
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link
when will the first Astros beanball game occur? Do they play Saturday?
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:48 (four years ago) link
does it count as a beanball if someone in the stands threw it?
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 18:27 (four years ago) link
home saturday vs the natssplit squad at the nats on sundayfull squad at the tigers on monday
interestingly they do not play the yankees -- guess the atlantic/gulf coasts are largely separate
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link
i missed this
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28730745/frustration-mounts-rob-manfred-edict-protect-astros-beanballs
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 19:32 (four years ago) link
Some organizations might be aided by their own limitations. The video room at Oakland Coliseum resides a significant distance from the dugout, former Athletics pitcher Brett Anderson mentioned.“I know the A’s weren’t cheating,” said Anderson, who signed with Milwaukee this winter. “Because, one, I don’t know if they could afford it. And to relay from fucking 300 yards away in the video room? What were we going to do, get some vendor to throw some popcorn up in the air, or something? It’s too fucking far to relay something.”Anderson joked the only way for Oakland to communicate would be through the ballpark’s decaying infrastructure. “The lights go out, it’s a curveball,” Anderson said. “If there’s a sewage backup, it’s a fastball.”
“I know the A’s weren’t cheating,” said Anderson, who signed with Milwaukee this winter. “Because, one, I don’t know if they could afford it. And to relay from fucking 300 yards away in the video room? What were we going to do, get some vendor to throw some popcorn up in the air, or something? It’s too fucking far to relay something.”
Anderson joked the only way for Oakland to communicate would be through the ballpark’s decaying infrastructure. “The lights go out, it’s a curveball,” Anderson said. “If there’s a sewage backup, it’s a fastball.”
― mookieproof, Thursday, 20 February 2020 17:48 (four years ago) link
haha that rules
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 February 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link
Off-topic but it was SO WEIRD when both Anderson AND Trevor Cahill came back to the A’s in ‘18
― brimstead, Thursday, 20 February 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link
lol xp
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 20 February 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link
eat shit papi
Papi on Mike Fiers: "Why didn't you talk about it during the season when it was going on? Why didn't you say, I don't want to be no part of it? So you're looking like a snitch. Why do you have to talk about it after? Why did nobody say anything while it was going on?"— Ian Browne (@IanMBrowne) February 20, 2020
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:04 (four years ago) link
stfu & go drink a milkshake papi
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link
papi was a juicer so he's got to stand his ground
― Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link
he does love baseball cards, though. he loves to sit at the kitchen table by himself and dream of baseball cards.
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link