then coronavirus happened, 2020 baseball

Isn't that..... an explicit admission of bad-faith negotiation?? Which would result in a successful grievance being filed?

"just to let you all know, i do NOT negotiate in good faith"

"there's actually no point in negotiating with me, is what i'm saying"

it's fine because 60 games is the healthy number but 61 games is a risk that will kill ballplayers

If it's 61, they can attach an asterisk.

i whine about the cardinals broadcasters every year. this year is going to be living hell. i don't want to hear their opinions about ANY of this stuff, like absolutely anything.

i think this is the year i finally give in and cut them off, using only the "in the ballpark" audio option. there's no crowd, there's no vendors. i don't want to hear the announcers. this year it's only the sound of the crack of the bat and whooshing noises of covid19 sweat flying around

being able to hear the players could be interesting

I was in Camden Yards around midnight and after a long rain delay once, and you could hear anything shouted anywhere in the park.

haha, and probably echoing off B&O Warehouse and back into the park, too

that’s what i think of as “the MiLB experience”

yeah i wish i got to more games in the low minors, attended by dozens

the '79-82 Mets, close enough

This was pretty good (warning: Verducci):

https://www.si.com/mlb/2020/06/22/boston-babe-ruth-1918-spanish-flu

https://i.imgur.com/tbdhVTj.gif https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/07/03/cleveland-indians-announce-plans-consider-name-change/ https://i.imgur.com/tbdhVTj.gif

As Major League Baseball teams began summer camp Friday for their first organized practices in almost four months amid the novel coronavirus pandemic, one club made news for another reason.

The Cleveland Indians acknowledged that they are ready to discuss changing their team name in the wake of news that the Washington Redskins will review theirs before the NFL’s 2020 season.

“We are committed to making a positive impact in our community and embrace our responsibility to advance social justice and equality,” the Indians said in a statement. “Our organization fully recognizes our team name is among the most visible ways in which we connect with the community. We have had ongoing discussions organizationally on these issues. The recent unrest in our community and our country has only underscored the need for us to keep improving as an organization on issues of social justice.

so 31 players, 7 staffers have tested positive

for Cleveland I suggest the Flaming Cuyahogas

I always had heard Cleveland Spiders is one name that could be considered, since there was one back in the early days of baseball.

I'd think that with the Spider logo's etc, it could work well even with the same color scheme.

Rockets From The Tombs

the good thing about the Spiders name is that it effectively outmaneuvers the people arguing they should stay with "Indians" because of tRaDItiON

and they've announced the five Braves with the covid, including Freeman who's symptomatic. hopefully he can recover to 100%.

the spiders would be fuckin amazing.

Spiders wtf? Where’d that come from? Terrible name

you're right it's time to bring back the Cleveland Naps

Siestas

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/010/145/clock-spider-1.jpg

the naps is good. they could replace chief wahoo with a cartoonishly over the top napolean character and play “the marseilleise” in the 7th inning

it's time for the Cleveland Drew Carey Shows

the grovers

The Spiders is good (brings back memories of that picture of their striped sweater spring training unis of that famous Cy Young picture):

Cy Young of the 1898 Cleveland Spiders at spring training in Hot Springs, Arkansas, March 1899. pic.twitter.com/4p1GdLnUxv

— Baseballography (@Baseballography) February 17, 2020

but I think I prefer the Cleveland Bone Thugs n Harmony.

the thumb-crop kinda blows it, full img:

https://i.imgur.com/9eOaegG.jpg

lol Cy

the Cleveland Sweaters

Cleveland Dudes

the Cleveland Nine

^real suggestion, i would like that

Happy 4th of July!

Don't forget to wear a mask. pic.twitter.com/Y8pWPsphdS

— MLB (@MLB) July 4, 2020

Good for Price.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2898865-dodgers-david-price-opts-out-of-2020-season-cites-familys-health-as-priority?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

Posnanski on Cleveland, Lou Sockalexis etc:

https://joeposnanski.substack.com/p/changing-of-a-name

4 cardinals with covid19 now

btw that article morbs posted is really good, one of posnanski's best (that i've read)

very unofficial, incomplete tally:

The following are the reports from teams that I have been able to gather from various media outlets, websites and Twitter pages.

Cardinals: Ricardo Sanchez, Genesis Cabrera plus one identified individual. [ZS edit: + Elehuris Montero, as of this morning]

Braves: Freddie Freeman, Pete Kozma, Touki Toussaint, Will Smith.

Cubs: Two staff members. That total may or may not include Pitching Coach Tommy Hottovy, who disclosed his struggles with his diagnosis.

Reds: Two unnamed players.

Astros: When asked why Yordan Alvarez was not in Houston, manager Dusty Baker said he couldn’t answer because of “league mandates.”

Rockies: Charlie Blackmon, Phillip Diehl, Ryan Castellani

Royals: Salvador Perez. Manager Mike Matheny disclosed that he had the virus several weeks ago.

Angels: Two unnamed players.

Brewers: None at intake, but positive cases from testing in previous weeks.

Twins: Willians Astudillo, Nick Gordon, Edwar Colina, Miguel Sano

Mets: One 40-man roster player.

Padres: Tommy Pham

Giants: 1st round draft choice Hunter Bishop.

Mariners: “More than one player.”

Phillies: 7 players and 5 staff members. 4 players were disclosed and have been placed on the COVID-19 Related Injury List—Scott Kingery, Hector Neris, Ranger Suarez, Tommy Hunter.

Blue Jays: Unconfirmed, but there were 4 phantom injury list placements with no injury disclosed—Jonathan Davis, Elvis Luciano, Brandon Drury, Hector Perez

Indians: Delino DeShields, Jr.

Rangers: Brett Martin

Dodgers: Club has seen positives, but won’t clarify whether they are active players

Keep in mind that an unknown number of these are in addition to the 31 positive tests that MLB and MLBPA disclosed the other day. By my count, there are potentially at least 4 other clubs that have cases that have not been disclosed, likely more.

+ those who have opted out:

RHP Mike Leake, Arizona Diamondbacks
RHP Joe Ross, Washington Nationals
3B Ryan Zimmerman, Washington Nationals
LHP David Price, Los Angeles Dodgers
CF Ian Desmond, Colorado Rockies
C Welington Castillo, Washington Nationals
RHP Tyson Ross, San Francisco Giants

NYY: DJ LeMahieu and reliever Luis Cessa

Posi

keepin it posi

this whole thing seems increasingly fucked up and no one has the wisdom or courage to shut it down

The first few days of Major League Baseball’s planned return amid the COVID-19 pandemic has been bizarre, players throwing in masks and managers wearing gloves as they leave the stadium. It’s also served as a stark reminder of how complicated the testing and policing process will be.

First, intake tests have been woefully incomplete, forcing teams to change or postpone workouts, and the player’s promised personal protection equipment has not yet arrived.

While MLB released an official statement Friday saying that the first intake results totaled just 1.2 percent (38 out of 3,185) of those tested, it comes with an important caveat: a vast majority of teams had incomplete or pending results. They were not able to submit those to the league by the deadline.

“This has to get fixed,” said Nationals reliever Sean Doolittle, who — as usual — provided honest, articulate commentary about an unprecedented endeavor. “There is a lot of players right now that are trying to make decisions that might be participating in camp that aren’t 100 percent comfortable with where things are at right now. That’s where I am.”

Doolittle has been tested four times, half of which have taken longer than 48 hours to get results. As he spoke on Sunday over Zoom, he paused for a minute to check his cell phone. Still no results from Friday’s test.

There was initial skepticism that one lab in Salt Lake City, Utah would be able to handle the volume of the league’s tests with a turnaround of 24-48 hours. Those concerns seem more valid after the first weekend. On Sunday, Oakland was forced to cancel its position players’ workout because it didn’t have all its intake test results. The A’s pitchers and catchers still took the field, but with an already shortened three-week summer camp, that hardly seems fair.

I can’t believe they aren’t just doing all grapefruit/cactus games

I’d go to a game in the current situation. No one around me in stands? Just the way I like it.

wait, are they intentionally trying to "pox-party" all the players/staff so that they'll be immune by the time the season starts?

The Athletic also learned from sources that testers did not show for Angels and two other, unidentified clubs Sunday. Angels players did saliva tests on their own; team shipped tests to lab in Utah. Monday workout pushed back from 9 am PT noon to make sure testers are present. https://t.co/BGD0FQGmGr

— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) July 6, 2020

mookie where is your last quote from?