kinda interesting there is a kind of historical stasis from like 1977-1990 and what does that mean re: peoples' fondness for the go-go 80's skinny pants era
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, May 13, 2021 7:45 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Good question! My instinct is to think that maybe that the game was more balanced?
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 14 May 2021 02:58 (three years ago) link
Sure but balance can also suggest the game wasnt played very good? Im not saying that from a max efficiency POV just like maybe baseball players secretly sucked
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 14 May 2021 03:14 (three years ago) link
Really it’s the skinny pants.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 14 May 2021 03:25 (three years ago) link
it's just the product of time. early on ross barnes is a stud with 28 WAR and you can see all these guys pass him; after a century of greats, you need 100 WAR just to appear at the bottom of the list (and the two that show up after 1990 had some chemical help after all). trout may be the only shot for someone else to break in in our lifetimes
also WAR is relative -- it has nothing to say about absolute quality of play. adam ottavino is right that babe ruth would be no match for today's pitchers (or likely even those of the 80s)
― mookieproof, Friday, 14 May 2021 03:36 (three years ago) link
100 war won’t happen for pitchers again I believe, unless scientific progress extended the careers of starting pitchers by a substantial margin. Hitters I’m less sure. I wouldn’t be surprised if Betts got in the 85-95 range, and thinking that makes me believe another player in the next 30-40 years could get to 100.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 14 May 2021 04:13 (three years ago) link
Good June: 329/.356/.494. Just passed Gehrig and Crime Dog.
― Andy K, Thursday, 1 July 2021 22:38 (three years ago) link
498
― Andy K, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 00:24 (three years ago) link
499
― Andy K, Thursday, 12 August 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link
500 tmrw?
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 12 August 2021 02:23 (three years ago) link
✔
― mookieproof, Sunday, 22 August 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link
Hurrah
― Andy K, Sunday, 22 August 2021 21:01 (three years ago) link
Glad to see everyone at the game seemed to know what was up.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 23 August 2021 05:30 (three years ago) link
shortstop with plus defense
https://i.redd.it/58yk05jwk4j71.jpg
― mookieproof, Monday, 23 August 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link
Intense eyes!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 August 2021 00:22 (three years ago) link
NOT A CLOGGER, and has now set this trivial record:
Eight consecutive hits for Miguel Cabrera, who lines Michael Wacha's 2-1 pitch into center. Cabrera is the first Tiger in the expansion era (since 1961) to hit in eight consecutive plate appearances.— Jason Beck (@beckjason) September 10, 2021
― Andy K, Friday, 10 September 2021 23:58 (three years ago) link
wait, we're using "since the expansion era" as a timeframe now? but "since the expansion era" makes it less impressive, both because it's a shorter amount of time (compared to integration/1947 or since the deadball era, 1918/19 whatever), and also the overall quality of talent dropped (same overall players and talent spread out across more teams, with more minor leaguers to fill in the gaps)
ohwell
― "HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Saturday, 11 September 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link
9 straight!
― k3vin k., Saturday, 11 September 2021 00:22 (three years ago) link
The MLB record is 12, held by Johnny Kling (1902), Pinky Higgins (1932), and Walt Dropo (1952).
― Andy K, Saturday, 11 September 2021 00:31 (three years ago) link
Two hits today; would need 14 in 6 games for 3,000. Not that he'd retire anyway.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 00:44 (two years ago) link
Hits in his first two ABs tonight. He's at 2998.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 23:56 (two years ago) link
2999
― Andy K, Thursday, 21 April 2022 00:31 (two years ago) link
I feel like he has to go 4-4 here.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 21 April 2022 00:42 (two years ago) link
He'll be leading off the 8th--it'd be nice if the Jays broadcast cut away, but doubtful.
― clemenza, Thursday, 21 April 2022 01:23 (two years ago) link
Maybe tomorrow. Busy night with an infield single, a TOOTBLAN, and a run scored from first on a double.
He's also at 599 doubles.
― Andy K, Thursday, 21 April 2022 01:27 (two years ago) link
I’m going to guess 600 is a lot!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 21 April 2022 01:28 (two years ago) link
“Today,” Miguel Cabrera said, “I will bunt.”— Jason Beck (@beckjason) April 21, 2022
― Andy K, Thursday, 21 April 2022 15:22 (two years ago) link
haha, i was just reading this headline
https://i.imgur.com/uvF54F5.png
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 April 2022 15:31 (two years ago) link
the classic intentionally-walk-the-batter-with-2999-hits
― Michael F Gill, Thursday, 21 April 2022 19:37 (two years ago) link
I will say that is perhaps the only time I've really missed the old intentional walk. Could have enjoyed the crowd gradually realizing what was happening... the cadence of the boos developing with each pitch...... never forget what they took from you— Emma Baccellieri (@emmabaccellieri) April 21, 2022
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 April 2022 20:05 (two years ago) link
1 of those 2,999 hits is an IBB he turned into a single against the O's in the mid-00s. My #1 miggy memory
― ✖, Thursday, 21 April 2022 23:26 (two years ago) link
*watches*
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 April 2022 17:22 (two years ago) link
there it is! single to right field!
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 April 2022 17:24 (two years ago) link
Damn, missed it--when did they start playing baseball so early? Anyway, saw the replay, nice clean hit.
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 April 2022 17:42 (two years ago) link
As for the next 3,000 guy, the prospects are dismal.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_career.shtml
Cano (2,630, 39)Molina (2,116, 39)Votto (2,035, 38)Cruz (1,924, 41)Andrus (1,875, 33)McCutchen (1,838, 35)Longoria (1,818, 36)Altuve (1,783, 32)J. Upton (1,748, 34)Freeman (1,722, 32)Hosmer (1,648, 32)Brantley (1,584, 35)Goldschmidt (1,581, 34)
No one else is over 1,500. From that list, Altuve and Freeman have a chance--I'd go with Freeman at this point. The best bet right now, I'd say, is Machado with 1,445 at 29 and playing well. Trout still has a decent chance, with 1,428 at 30, but obviously COVID and injury-time have really slowed him down. After him, I don't think there's anyone in the top 1,000 with a chance--you may be looking at Acuna and Soto and that generation.
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 April 2022 18:21 (two years ago) link
The prototypical Miggy knock - hard hit and oppo. The man is one of the best I’ve ever seen at going the other way. pic.twitter.com/lhC7O3oeSz— Nick Stellini (@StelliniTweets) April 23, 2022
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Saturday, 23 April 2022 18:25 (two years ago) link
Was walking to (wedding anniversary) lunch, coincidentally near the park, as presumed ticket holders were legging it. That must have sucked for them. Iglesias’ hug — aww, man.
― Andy K, Saturday, 23 April 2022 22:21 (two years ago) link
yeah that hug was super cute
― mookieproof, Sunday, 24 April 2022 01:24 (two years ago) link
Almost a month into my baseball exile. Kinda weird avoiding it but not too hard to do, but saw Cabrera
Cabrera is maybe the first ILBaseball hall of famer. Pretty much his career has ran the length of the site (almost).
Cabrera was in the Bartman game (early in his career) and we were watching on ILX.
The Cubs ARE still the Cubs
He might have started a bit before the site, but his career has been well commented on over the years on the site.
Altuve won't make it or at least the second baseman decline says he won't. Alomar looked like a lock for 3k hits and he fell off a cliff. Heck Cano looked like a lock until he got busted doping again and again (probably why he was looking like a lock).
It might be a while, players making more money, the game probably eventually leading to a much smaller season and the style of baseball getting away from batting average and getting just 'hits' - might make it kind of a hard stat to get the numbers.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 02:04 (two years ago) link
Forgot all about another Canadian store that was right in the mix 30 years ago: Towers (which turned into Zellers, which I guess I'd forgotten).
― clemenza, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 02:07 (two years ago) link
Wrong thread!
I am very curious about where that comment belongs!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 02:55 (two years ago) link
Kmart R.I.P.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 03:03 (two years ago) link
Strong Kmart-Detroit connection, so not that wrong.
― Andy K, Saturday, 30 April 2022 01:02 (two years ago) link
meijer still lives
― mookieproof, Saturday, 30 April 2022 02:31 (two years ago) link
Miguel Cabrera just stole Third Base in the year 2022 pic.twitter.com/O4pUrmGpt8— Calico Joe (@CalicoJoeMLB) July 13, 2022
― Andy K, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 02:23 (two years ago) link
Miggy's newest milestone: pic.twitter.com/114OKiUnFQ— Detroit Tigers (@tigers) July 13, 2022
― Andy K, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 13:48 (two years ago) link
There's a chance Cabrera is playing his final season.He is undecided about his status for 2023."I got to talk to my agent, I got to talk to the GM (general manager Al Avila), I got to talk to everybody to see what's going to be the plan for next year," Cabrera said. "Right now, we're focused on today. We're going to go day-by-day and see what happens. I don't think about next year right now. I think about trying to finish heathy (sic) this year, and we'll see."
He is undecided about his status for 2023.
"I got to talk to my agent, I got to talk to the GM (general manager Al Avila), I got to talk to everybody to see what's going to be the plan for next year," Cabrera said. "Right now, we're focused on today. We're going to go day-by-day and see what happens. I don't think about next year right now. I think about trying to finish heathy (sic) this year, and we'll see."
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2022/08/04/detroit-tigers-miguel-cabrera-not-guaranteeing-playing-2023/10240941002/
― Andy K, Friday, 5 August 2022 01:54 (two years ago) link
Miguel Cabrera's 3097th career hit is an infield single. https://t.co/Sywd5NQ8As— Jason Beck (@beckjason) April 26, 2023
― Andy K, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 02:15 (one year ago) link
Assume he'll get the full Pujols/Ortiz/Rivera send-off from all cities.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 03:39 (one year ago) link
pic.twitter.com/4nGPlI9NZo— Jason Beck (@beckjason) April 26, 2023
― Andy K, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link