FOR SALE: One billygoat-bearded closer.

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Goes by the name of "Koch." Ain't what he used to be, but still probably good for mop-up duty.

Will trade for batting practice bats or bag of new balls.

Inquiries to O. Guillen, Chicago White Sox, 35th & Shields.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I've got Beltran and Sweeney on my fantasy teams!! Silver lining!

Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Maggs walks in the 9th...never give up hope!

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Now men on 1st and 2nd, no outs!

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

BASES LOADED, NO OUTS!!!

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Konerko singles in Maggs. MacDougal can't get healthy fast enough for KC.

Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

If the Sox can take this one, it will *almost* have made up for the opening day debacle.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah well, being able to bat last sure helps when you've got Koch....

Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Full-count, KC doing the five-infielder thing....

Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Crede doubles. Sox win. Sheesh.

Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Ozzie Guillen is a genius!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

!!!!

Good to see KC with worse relief pitching than the Sox.

Phew!

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

He'll be a genius as soon as he installs Marte as closer!

Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Wait - what's the official score of the game? Yahoo says it's 11-9 - did Crede hit a ground rule double?

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, sorry yeah --- it was tied with the bases loaded when Crede batted; he hit a ground-rule double but of course only the first run is gonna count....

Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, I think. Wait, maybe I don't understand scoring at all.

Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I think, since it's a GROUND RULE double, everyone advances two bases automatically, meaning that two runs did score (assuming they crossed the plate). If the ball was in play, only the 1st run would've counted, since scoring that run would end the game.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I have Koch on both my fantasy teams = :_(

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i work in an office with 3 other guys, 2 sox fan and 1 cubs fan. the sox fans remind me of bruins fans, they aren't so much supporters of their club as they are detractors of everyone else. it's gross and it's sad.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 April 2004 12:59 (twenty-two years ago)

gygax, what were you thinking¿

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 15 April 2004 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Saves!

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 15 April 2004 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

and it was a late round pickup in both cases when the pickings were slim.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 15 April 2004 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

at this rate marte's gonna have his job in no time - no time i tells ya¡

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 15 April 2004 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Can I complain about Joe Nathan and Shiggy Hasegawa here?

Leee O'Gaddy (Leee), Thursday, 15 April 2004 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Hell no you can't - Shiggy's taking away save opps from Guardardo because they want to "ease him" back into the closer role by making him the set up guy. Because, y'know, you throw different as a set-up guy. Mechanics and everything, all different.

Bob Melvin is proving to be one silly braindead dude.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 15 April 2004 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

B-b-but 2 losses already, 1 BS, .318 BAA, 7.50 ERA! More like Shigetoshi Chumpegawa!

Leee O'Gaddy (Leee), Thursday, 15 April 2004 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Hell, complain away. Anything to hasten Rincon's ascension to the closer role is fine with me...

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 15 April 2004 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Otto, there are Sox fans on this thread, so you can't share your compelling testimony about them as if they aren't here.

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 15 April 2004 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I was just ignoring that pathetic trolling. *dirt-off-my-shoulder*

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 15 April 2004 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I tried to. I have nothing against Otto, but I just get tired of hearing that.

Anyway, Marte is looking much better today! So far...

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 15 April 2004 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Not only looking better, but he's your winning pitcher thanks to Magglio's bottom of the 10th heroics!

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 15 April 2004 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

YESSSS...SWEEP!!

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 15 April 2004 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

yes yes, kerry, i'm sure there are MANY very nice chisox fans in existence. but then there is the vocal minority who ruins it for everyone else. see last year (to the day) when fans jumped on the field against the royals on 4 separate occasions during the day.

poop on the two guys in my office. bitter bitter men.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 April 2004 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yes, here comes the predictable litany of White Sox fan sins.

Arrrggh...wasn't that the incident where at least one of the guys started out the day drinking at Wrigley?

Every team has a 'vocal minority' that is annoying. Regardless, no one is 'ruining' anything for me...except people who think such behavior is symptomatic or confined to one team's fans.

Nice of you to remember the 'anniversary' - no doubt the local papers reminded you of that. Too bad they're too biased to remind people that at least one of them was a Cub fan.

I lived in Wrigleyville - you want to hear stories about drunken bullying asshole fans? You know - all those fan incidents that don't get reported in the media?

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 15 April 2004 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.thetapchicago.com/1-11/hanigan.php

On April 15, 2003 in the seventh inning of a White Sox lead, Eric “I have a dream of becoming a” Divas ran out onto U.S. Cellular Field and attacked an umpire. He was the fourth person during the night to set foot on the field. Divas is a known Cub fan that spent the afternoon at Wrigley before going to the Sox game. The incident is the second for the South Siders—both occurring against the Kansas City Royals—and the fourth incident in the city of Chicago. (The first two incidents occurred in Wrigley Field—one when a fan attacked a home-team pitcher, and the second when a fan swiped a Los Angeles Dodger’s cap.) Since the incident at U.S. Cellular, baseball had another fan/player occurrence when an Oakland Athletics fan threw a cellular phone at outfielder Carl Everett and hit him in the head.

This is not a Sox issue. This is not a Cubs issue. This is a drinking issue. Due to several incompetent drinkers, beer sales could be outlawed at all Major League Baseball games. Beer sales have already been limited to just the first six innings in some parks—including Wrigley Field.

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 15 April 2004 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

to steal a phrase from the funk, "let's break this down dan vigil style":


Every team has a 'vocal minority' that is annoying.
agreed. except the expos. they're not vocal at all.

Regardless, no one is 'ruining' anything for me...except people who think such behavior is symptomatic or confined to one team's fans.
i suppose "ruin" may not have been the best word. what i meant was that the vocal minority of the sox fans seem to cast a bad light on the rest.

Nice of you to remember the 'anniversary'
your welcome.

no doubt the local papers reminded you of that
yep, it was in the sun times. small blurb, maybe 8 paragraphs.

Too bad they're too biased to remind people that at least one of them was a Cub fan.
this is the problem i have with the sox fans in my office. they spend at least as much time deriding the cubs as supporting their own club. it happened at shields and 35th, not clark and addison. but hey, if it makes you feel better that's fine. last year's game was interrupted by sox fans entering the field of play only THREE times in one game. much better.

I lived in Wrigleyville - you want to hear stories about drunken bullying asshole fans?
no that's fine, i've seen enough of that kind of behavior i know what it's like. i've been in the bleachers in fenway when brawls enveloped entire seating sections. it's odd behavior to say the least. i had a horseshoe thrown at me at a patriots game once, i'm assuming the guy (or gal) who chucked it had been imbibing.

every team has it's a-holes. my point was the two guys in my office seem to spend as much time slighting other teams as supporting their own (much like the boston bruins fans). and they seem to take special delight in running down the cubs. IN NO WAY DO I BELIEVE THAT THESE TWO FANS ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF EACH AND EVERY FAN OF THE CHICAGO WHITE SOX.

but these two bitter little men just suck the fun out of listening to the games on the radio.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 April 2004 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

OK sorry I went overboard - I have residual irritation from another thread.

Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

no worries, i took no offense. although right now the two guys are now debating politics (one is a clueless democrat the other is an equally clueless though WAAAY more ignorant republican) and it seems these two would probably be sour little people regardless of their baseball affiliations.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, and if i offended you (or any chisox fans) i'm sorry. unless george or bob is reading this. you're both getting on my nerves.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 April 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
Mamma mia.

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!! gygax gets another save!

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)


I went to a Cubs-Chisox game at Wrigley three summers ago, and have to say the merciless verbal shit between the fans made Mets-Yankees exchanges sound like vows of love.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Yep.

Here is the latest outrage that is going around. Needless to say, I think some of the people on this thread don't find it very funny.

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

How much longer will Herges be the nominal closer??

Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 6 May 2004 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

he certainly likes to make things interesting (2 strikes followed by 4 balls to open the 9th tonight with no outs in a 1 run game).

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I know, I had to leave the room last night, I can't take him anymore - he's a sado.

Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 14 May 2004 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

where's Kerry?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 01:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha ha - yes, I thought of you when I came here. I'm still in shock!! Koch strikes out the side!

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, by the way, I don't know if you've seen this.

If the link doesn't work, here's a snippet:

Miller makes self butt of humour with Koch artwork
'I love Billy Koch' tattooed on his rear
Much-decorated Jay did it for the cash

Jays pitcher Justin Miller's arms are covered in so many tattoos he's been legislated to wear long sleeves on the mound so his body art doesn't distract hitters. But here's a mental image that should downright frighten both Miller's friends and foes: Miller recently tattooed "I Love Billy Koch" on his right buttocks.

He says he did it for the money. Koch, the White Sox closer who was traded by the Jays to the Athletics for Miller and Eric Hinske in 2001, is notorious for paying people to do, in Miller's words, "stupid things." So along with footing the $80 bill (all figures U.S.) at the tattoo parlour, Koch paid Miller $1,000 for the naming rights to his derriere. Koch's wife insisted her husband toss in $500 for Miller's better half, Jessica, because, as Miller said, "she has to live with it."

"Now it's one of my most cherished tattoos," said Miller, who has about 70. "It gets some funny remarks (in the shower). Orlando (Hudson, the Toronto second baseman) always says, `What the hell's wrong with you?'"

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Shouldn't that be under the "Feel-Good Stories" thread?

boldbury (boldbury), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

(xpost!)

haha, that should be posted in the "feel good stories" thread!

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

kerry - you're gonna get me fired - i'm laughing so hard.
that is the fucking funniest thing thing i've read all week.

dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

dyson, tattoo my name on your butt cheek and I won't fire you; on your scrotum, and I'll give you a raise¡

dysboss (Leee), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
I don't ever want to see that SOB again. >{

Kerry (dymaxia), Monday, 7 June 2004 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

SECONDED

Broheems (diamond), Monday, 7 June 2004 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Dusty made his move, it's time for Ozzie to wake up and make his...

Broheems (diamond), Monday, 7 June 2004 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Good god was that pathetic or what?

Ozzie took out Shingo to get to that fucking piece of shit, too. WALKING in the winning run against one of the worst teams in the AL....oi vey.

I think Koch has written his final ticket out of town, or at least to permanent mop up duty.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 7 June 2004 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Ozzie took out Shingo to get to that fucking piece of shit, too. WALKING in the winning run against one of the worst teams in the AL....oi vey.

Both of these sentences, totally OTM. Sickening.

Shingo is the man.

Broheems (diamond), Monday, 7 June 2004 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

so disappointed that one of the few times I get to catch the Sox (grumble Time Warner Cable doesn't carry WGN grumble) on TV Koch blows it for 'em. Fuck that guy and his stupid facial hair.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 7 June 2004 03:50 (twenty-two years ago)

KOCH JUST TRADED TO THE MARLINS FOR A MINOR LEAGUE INFIELDER!!!!!!! CHICAGO REJOICES!!!!!!!!

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 18 June 2004 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my god, I thought you were joking until I saw it on WSI. Ding dong the Botch is dead, etc.

Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

yay!

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow! Better than a sharp stick in the eye, I suppose.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

MODERATOR: please lock thread. Thanks.

Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Woah - Kerry, do you post on WSI?

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I mostly lurk, but yeah, I do read it every day for news.

Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

so what were the sox on the hook for? this was obviously a dump.

John (jdahlem), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to post quite a bit, but yeah I'm basically an occasional lurker these days. Our own Baked Bean Teeth is a Church Elder, though :)

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread should be kept alive for Marlins fans.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG WTF!!!

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean seriously!

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 08:21 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread will be kept alive by marlins fans¡

dyson (dyson), Friday, 18 June 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"fans"

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"mangement"

dyson (dyson), Friday, 18 June 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

all two of them.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Stencil, I think a few of the Marlins players actually like the team, too.

So WHY did the Marlins TRADE for Koch?

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 18 June 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"mangement"

I think you can get some special shampoo from the vet for that.

boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 18 June 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Dave R. - see this: "this thread should be kept alive for Marlins fans." was set up for the "all two of 'em" joke that I kept waiting for others to make. Being the straight man and the card on the same thread sucks.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Improv's a bitch, man.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 18 June 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

From mlb.com:

Sox acquire five-tool shortstop in exchange for reliever

MIAMI -- Even as Billy Koch was saying goodbye to his White Sox teammates Thursday night, after being shipped to the Marlins for minor-league shortstop Wilson Valdez, the former closer for the South Siders managed to maintain his razor-sharp wit.
"I've never had my ERA drop so much in one day," said Koch, who will get a clean slate in moving to the National League for the first time in his career.

[...]

Koch faced the news with class and dignity. He apologized to Williams for failing to get the job done since he was brought over from Oakland with Neal Cotts in exchange for Keith Foulke, Mark Johnson and Joe Valentine.

"I told Kenny that it's just a shame that you put your neck out there, you traded some good players to get me over here, put the money on the table for me, and I wasn't able to the job done for you," Koch said. "That's my only regret. I had a lot of fun in Chicago."

[...]

"I just [stunk]," said Koch, who rarely was at a loss for words and never hid from the media, no matter what bad pitching situation he found himself in. "For whatever reason, I just didn't get the job done. I need to turn the page now. It's a fresh start.

"This is hard because I love everybody in this clubhouse, and I'm going to miss them. Shingo has the stuff to get it done, and I wish him 100 percent success.

"He's a class-act kid," added White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen, talking about the respect he had for Koch in handling the trade decision. "It's a good thing for him that he's out of Chicago. Between the media and the fans, it was tough for him. When he got the save, he got it in an ugly way. But he did it."

He seems like such a great guy.

Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)


SHINGO? 'Splain.

Marlins fans need a backup when Benitez assumes late-season form.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

the ERA joke is pretty good.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Shingo Takatsu (aka "Mr. Zero", the all-time saves leader in Japan, first year reliever to take over closing duties for the ChiSox).

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Takatsu's scoreless streak dates back to April 23. Since then, he's worked 21.1 innings without giving up a run. Only 13 baserunners have reached over that stretch (eight hits, four walks and a hit batsman), and big league hitters have batted just .116 against him. He's worked two perfect innings in his last two outings to nail down his first two major league saves. After earning his second save on Tuesday against Florida, Takatsu's 2004 ERA dropped to 1.11.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 18 June 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

And guess who's got him?! (Admittedly after dropping him after a disastrous first outing.)

Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Friday, 18 June 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

it was a tough call but i called koch in to my office today about some bad news. he took it well.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 28 June 2004 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
Guess who is FOR SALE again?

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

End of an error, and all that.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

ah, seeing this thread in New Answers never fails to elicit a chuckle...

Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

(laughing to keep from crying and all that)

Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Billy WHO??

k3rry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh, I was thinking about poor Billy while watching Keith Foulke clean up tonight.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh wait, are you insinuating that Foulke and Koch were involved in some sort of trade? That's kookie talk!

(puts fingers back in ears.)

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Foulke might've been nice for the Giants to have this year.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Joe Nathan would have been better.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
ZING ZANG ZONG @ Leeeeeeeeeeeeeee (who had the nerve to complain about Joey Nathan wayyyyyyyyy upthread).

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 05:04 (twenty-one years ago)

He'd just given up a 3 run dong!

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, those were probably the only earned runs he gave up that month.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

...and the following three months!

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Released by the Blue Jays

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 March 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeez, that didn't take long!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 18 March 2005 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
From Prospectus' Week in Quotes:


"No. I'm going to make the Toronto Blue Jays pay every cent of my salary."
--former Blue Jays pitcher Billy Koch, on whether he’ll sign with another team after being released by Toronto (Toronto Sun)

"To be released after four outings? What's four outings in the spring? Nothing. They can pay my gas money for my car, they can pay to fill up my 240-gallon tank for my 30-foot Pursuit, they can gas up my jet boat and our three jet skis."
--Koch

"Not only are we going, but I'll be sitting with you and we'll be holding up signs reading 'Go Devil Rays!' "
--Koch, on whether he’s still going to a Rays-Jays game in Tampa Bay after buying 240 tickets for his kids’ classmates

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I was cracking up at these wonderful slices of wit from Goat Man.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha!
What's the whole thing about gassing up the boat about?

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)


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