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This can also double as the place where we talk about the crazy things Dusty Baker says.

― mattbot (mattbot), Friday, 16 April 2004 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

gygax! sez: "wrt Derrek Lee critics: Wait until June. Check out his career splits as the weather warms up."

Believe me, they've been checked out! There's not really anything that suggests the Cubs will be really playing well until June (Prior's injury, Maddux's sluggishness, traditional slow starts of Lee, Alou, Sosa to a lesser extent).

― mattbot (mattbot), Friday, 16 April 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Crayiest thing Dusty has said this season: "Prior will be back by May."

― boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 16 April 2004 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

4-4 in the top of the 4th against the Reds today...looks like the Cubs will have to get a field goal at some point if they want to pull this one out.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 16 April 2004 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Alou is starting slow?

― Broheems (diamond), Friday, 16 April 2004 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Baseball Prospectus's Will Carroll saw him throw and estimated May 10 as a general return date. He'd be ready today if MLB would let him throw a towel instead of a ball.

Alou's got some RBIs but I think he's squandered quite a few opportunities hitting cleanup so far this year. Admittedly I'm going on anecdotal evidence about Alou from another message board, I've only been able to catch the Cubs a couple times this year so far.

― mattbot (mattbot), Friday, 16 April 2004 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

alou is batting .364/.364/.727 with RISP so far, and .267/.313/.533 with runners on, which is pretty solid. i've always liked him a helluva lot more than sosa.

― John (jdahlem), Friday, 16 April 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Heheh... BProspectus ran these in the last month:

"I think walks are overrated unless you can run... If you get a walk and put the pitcher in a stretch, that helps. But the guy who walks and can't run, most of the time they're clogging up the bases for somebody who can run."

"Who's been the champions the last seven, eight years? ...Have you ever heard the Yankees talk about on-base percentage and walks? Walks help. But you ain't going to walk across the plate. You're going to hit across the plate. That's the school I come from."

"It's called hitting, and it ain't called walking. Do you ever see the top 10 walking? You see top 10 batting average. A lot of those top 10 do walk. But the name of the game is to hit."

"Chemistry is very important. I remember a few years ago when I was with the Giants, a guy told me there was no such thing as chemistry. I said, 'Well, there is no such thing as chemistry when you don't have any.' But for those that have it, it means a lot."

Then these on April Fools Day:

"It's funny, for so long I was so resistant to this idea of 'taking pitches.' But someone explained it to me the other day... and you know, it makes a lot of sense. What the hell was I thinking?"

"And pitch counts: man alive! Why didn't someone tell me about these things before? I really could have saved that Gary Huckabay some ulcers."

"Oh man, things are going to be different now, I swear. I've got a whole new outlook on life."

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I only questioned it cuz he's hit a HR in each of the last three games; seems to be heating up.

Grif Jr. just crushed one.

― Broheems (diamond), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Alou has 10 rbis in 8 games.

The Cubs hitting has been generally pretty good and they are driving in runs. Barrett has hit better than expected and the signing of Todd Walker seems pretty smart these days, so even with Lee not hitting a ton, the offseason pickups are looking smart.

The pitching has been a bit slow out of the box with Maddux and part of the bullpen not throwing very well. I think (hope) both will come around. Maddux had a shaky start last year, but settled down and had a decent year. I think that they will make Hawkins the closer within a month or so.

With or without Prior for awhile, I still like this Cubs team to be able to contend. Houston has lost Petitte for a while. Once Cinci's starters get clubbed and the bullpen gets over used, they will slip back in the pack. They got off to decent starts the past few seasons only to burn out their bullpen and head into a nose dive. St.Louis is solid, but their starters are not great.

If Prior can get back to his old self for a second have run, they will be in good shape. If Prior can't come back to normal, they might make the playoffs, but I don't know if they can make a run for the title.

― earlnash, Friday, 16 April 2004 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

the yankees traded d'angelo jimenez for a half a season of jay witasick.

― John (jdahlem), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, my bad on Alou. That's what I get for opening my mouf before checking the stats. He had a nice start last year if I recall, and a terrible one in 2002 when he admitted he wasn't ready to play in the colder weather.

Weurtz seems to have punched his ticket back to Des Moines today. Remlinger can't get back soon enough.

― mattbot (mattbot), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Both Chicago teams seem to be having their share of pitching meltdowns this year...ugly.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

ALou and Ramirez, hitting next to each other in the lineup, are both a triple short of the cycle in the 6th inning..

― Broheems (diamond), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Rob, does it make you ill to see Jimenez playing so well now that he's no longer a Sox?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Nah, I don't really miss him. Hey - we've got Juan Uribe! No, but seriously I can't fault them for cutting bait with Jimenez. We'll see how long he keeps it up.

Dusty is going ballistic! He just got thrown out.

― Broheems (diamond), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Was Dusty arguing balls and strikes? Something else?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

No the umpire thought a Cub had batted out of order (after Dusty pulled a double switch), and called him out. And Dusty said, "no way, dude, you wrote it down wrong!!!" or words to that effect. Then he got tossed. Then he threw his cap and kicked a little bit of dirt and so forth. I'd never seen him get that angry.

― Broheems (diamond), Friday, 16 April 2004 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

the last time i saw him get kicked out was in houston when an ump called a foul ball a home run (TV proved the ump wrong but it still counted).

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 16 April 2004 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Holy shit. 10-9 in the bottom of the 9th. Sammy (tying Banks) and Alou (2nd of the day) go back-to-back off Graves to win it.

― Broheems (diamond), Friday, 16 April 2004 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

the cubs got out of a huge top of the 10th jam with bases loaded and 1 out. that was huge.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 16 April 2004 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Leo Mazzoni is using a voodoo doll on Maddux, his pitching has been major suxors so far this season.

Even with the Cubs dropping two of three, this series with the Reds was very entertaining to say the least. If Cinci can keep that lineup healthy, they are going to raise quite a few team's ERA.

― earlnash, Monday, 19 April 2004 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

There's still a fourth game tomorrow! Seriously, this is the most entertaining series I've seen since the Cubs/Cards hatefest last year. Granted there haven't been many series in between the two, but this one just feels like September somehow.

The TV dudes keep saying Maddux needs to find his "trademark location" but I'm not so sure his location is the problem. He's around the strike zone like he always is. His pitches don't look to me like they're moving like they used to -- he rolled so many 85-88 mph fastballs up there that just did nothing today. Well, did nothing until they hit the Waveland concrete, that is.

― mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 19 April 2004 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Maddux started off badly last year as well, even worse actually. He's somewhat of a slow starter as is (just gonna keep telling myself that)

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 19 April 2004 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Was Wood justified for his actions? I kinda saw the replays (w/o sound) and it looked like he wasn't getting some borderline calls.

Is Clement getting punished today for Wood's actions? His pitches that I saw looked pretty good.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 19 April 2004 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the ball four to Dunn that got him barking at the ump was unquestionably a strike. He'd been dropping the breaking ball over all game for called strikes and getting a few other marginal low strikes as well. It sounds kind of dumb to say, but those are the calls that starting pitchers get in the 9th inning and he just got squeezed by the ump. I think he might not have been so animated had the home plate ump not torn off his mask and run out to the mound to challenge Wood (wtf is with umpires doing that, by the way?!)

Losing his cool after walking Dunn was all on Wood though. Giving Wily Mo Pena somthing over the plate on an 0-2 count is just inexcusable.

Clement's looking really good today. Prior threw 35 pitches off the mound again, too.

― mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 19 April 2004 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Aramis Ramirez, jeez!

It's funny how all the preseason predix talked about the overwhelming Cubs' staff whilst their success this season has mostly come as a result of an at times overwhelming offense.

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 19 April 2004 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Clement's problem is consistency. He will have a good game then get shelled or he will look sharp the first time through the order then get wild.

Zambrano doesn't get as much press, but he could be just as good as any of them. The bullpen blew at least three wins for him last year. Zambrano did look a bit spooked during a couple of his playoff starts, but he was only 22, so maybe next time it won't be as big a deal.

― earlnash, Monday, 19 April 2004 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Derrick Lee watch: Grand Slam in the 7th today.

― boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 19 April 2004 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

that's what I'm talkin bout right there, hell yes

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 19 April 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

sammy's up with the bases loaded, one out, same inning.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 April 2004 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

double play!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 April 2004 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

fuck!

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 19 April 2004 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

they still won.

― hstencil, Monday, 19 April 2004 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Cubbies send 12 batters to the plate in the top of the 1st against Pittsburgh "ace" Josh Fogg... 8 score.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

8 runs on 5 hits (1 error). Fogg knocked out after 3 walks 2 hits and only one out.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Kip Wells is the ace, no?

― Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Kip Wells can eat a dick.

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

though actually I think he is the ace

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

perhaps he was tipping his pitches?

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Patterson 5 for 6!

Pitching team? In 14 games, the Cubs are hitting .291 with 30 HR and 85 runs (6.07 per game)!

― earlnash, Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"After a blinded Mitre pulled the first face smash away, pitchers Francis Beltran and Carlos Zambrano took turns rubbing the paper-plate goo in his face two more times." (link)

For those keeping track at home, Prior's replacement is 1-0 with a 2.89 ERA and 1.34 WHIP.

― mattbot (mattbot), Thursday, 22 April 2004 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Wait a minute, Pittsburgh has an ace?

― boldbury (boldbury), Thursday, 22 April 2004 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

"ace"

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 22 April 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Kip Wells is 2-1 with a 1.89 ERA and a 1.26 WHIP. And he has 20 Ks and 8 BBs in 19 innings of work. Oh and he's owned by ILB league-leaders The Cronies. I'm not saying, i'm just saying.

― Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Is he related to Kip Winger?

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Broheems, stop trolling! :)

― Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Moises Alou (owned by perennial mid-table act The Starfighters!) with a two-run jack in the bottom of the first.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

And Maddux sucking!

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

and then Maddux calming down and no more runs in the game and Cubs win Cubs win blah blah blah

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 23 April 2004 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

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That Mariotti column about the Mets possibly biting on Sammy's contract is all sorts of silly. As if the Mets won't try to hunt down Beltran - sweet crap, after last year's Vlad fiasco, they'd better throw some cash @ Beltran, & not settle for a guy 9 years older and 500 steps slower.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 4 October 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

2004 Cubs 89-73
2003 Cubs 88-74

THEY IMPROVED!

There will be sniping on all sides about the failures of this season deep into next season. There is plenty of blame to go around.

Sosa will be in the Cub lineup next season. I can't see anyone trading for him, mostly because of his salary than his skills, although he is definitely damaged goods at this point.

If the Astros make a big playoff run, I figure they will open up the pocketbook and do what it takes to keep Beltran.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 4 October 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

That Mets rumor has been around for the last week or so, with one variant saying the Cubs would take Cliff Floyd from the Mets and pony up some cash for part of Sosa's $17 million next year. I don't know the dynamics of the NY baseball market too well, but it's not beyond comprehension that Sosa's presence in the Mets lineup could lead to an influx of ticket sales sufficient to pay for his salary, is it? He'll hit 600 next year, and assuming he can avoid injuries again I could see him putting up much better numbers than this year.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 4 October 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

He'll hit 600 next year

(By this I mean he'll pass 600 career HRs, not hitting .600!)

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 4 October 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps more damaging:

Sosa also reportedly left early Sept. 7, departing in the middle of an extra-inning loss in which he could have pinch-hit. At the time, Sosa was not playing because of hip bursitis, but he was in the starting lineup the next day.

I think BBT is right, though, the Trib pushing this story probably means a lot.

― mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 4 October 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

From this article: http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/7766678

"I did the best I could. When players don't produce, the first question they ask is 'Could you have managed better?"' Baker said. "I'm always looking for stuff I could have done better. I'm a perfectionist and probably harder on me than anybody. One thing, I didn't get dumb overnight. It doesn't happen like that."

...it was a long and gradual process."

― boldbury (boldbury), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Sammy finted $87,400 for arriving late/leaving game early

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

A richly-deserved finting.

― briania (briania), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Any chance Sam could be headed to DH-land? Say maybe back across town?

― briania (briania), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think there's a GM in baseball who isn't cognizant of Sosa's enormous looming payday ($35 million for the next 2 years), his declining production, and his immense propensity to whine and play the martyr when things start conspiring against him. Even the boneheads that run the White Sox aren't dumb enough to nibble, even if the Cubs pony up a big chunk of change as part of a deal.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

All the rumors lately have been focusing on the Mets, for some reason.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Senexpos!

― briania (briania), Thursday, 7 October 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Sammy's appealing. I've so had it with him.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 7 October 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Dusty Baker wearing a Von Dutch trucker cap last Sunday: Classic or Dud?

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

eye patchh vice mag, etc. ??? dude or duddddddddz?

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 8 October 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Wendell Kim got fired today, Sarge Matthews demoted from hitting coach to 1B coach. Dusty: "Sometimes you need a different voice," Baker said. "I wasn't dissatisfied with Sarge."

Props to Hendry for taking some of Dusty's toys away from him.

― mattbot (mattbot), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Kim had it coming.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

If Dusty's coaching staff can be classified as toys, then Kim's the one that got recalled for being toxic AND flammable AND a choking hazard AND a piece of crap.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

Steve Stone resigned today.

― mattbot (mattbot), Friday, 29 October 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Woah, holy crap -- I thought Stone just agreed to return for another year?

In any case, I guess I'm not ultimately surprised; Stone probably couldn't get any assurances from Cubs management that Dusty would enforce any sort of discipline on the clubhouse with respect to its relationship to the announcer booth, Dusty being the big "players' guy" he is.

Stone is a quality enough announcer to find another home, if he chooses so. I would love to have him on the South Side.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 29 October 2004 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, we would always welcome back an ex-White Sox! Come home, Steve!

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 29 October 2004 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

actually, fuck that, there's no WAY he'd share the same booth with Harrelson

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 29 October 2004 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Exactly! Get rid of Hawk, I'm all for it. Get rid of DJ, too, and get a pair of knowledgeable announcers who have personalities and aren't insane.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 29 October 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

The Cubs get the title of "best curse"

― the leglo (the leglo), Friday, 29 October 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck those people.

― k3rry (dymaxia), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, it doesn't even compare

― John (jdahlem), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, I wasn't really paying attention when it started, so what was the big deal about Stone? He criticized the team and....? Dusty's panties became entwisted?

― oops (Oops), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Some of the Cubs' players were pissed off at Stone for praising their opponents' play too much (esp. Kent Mercker) and other minor bullshit (like not giving the players cute nicknames). Mercker even called up to the broadcast booth DURING A GAME to bitch about what Stone and Chip Caray were saying. What ensued was a battle to keep Stone and Caray off the team's plane, and even physical threats from Mercker to Stone.

Dusty Baker, as is his style, refused to rein in his players, so the resentment between team and booth simmered. Toward the end of the year, thin-skinned Dusty got pissed off at Stone for his criticism of Baker's managerial moves, and got Cubs management to give the message to Stone that he should back off. Baker thought that Stoney was carrying out a personal vendetta against him, when all he was doing was criticizing his on-field moves.

Long story short, Dusty wins, the Cubs chickened out, and Stone apparently told them to fuck off, knowing that nothing will have changed in 2005.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Saturday, 30 October 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I read an article somewhere (maybe something on ESPN?) comparing the Red Sox this season to the Cubs, how the Cubs started pointing fingers and blaming everyone else for their problems + there was team turmoil, whereas the Red Sox just played loose and carefree.

Which is strange, because in '03 I thought the Cubs were playing pretty loose and carefree as well. I really think that it goes to show how a few malcontents (Sosa, Mercker, Alou, Hawkins maybe?) can fuck up team chemistry. Which, despite what SABR types might suggest, does play a role to a large degree. Like working at a miserable company vs. working at a fun company.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 30 October 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Another thirty million in salary buys a lot of carefree attitudes, even for them scrappy underdog BoSox.

― bnw (bnw), Saturday, 30 October 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)

the cubs did crash and burn at the end, but inner turmoil might be too simplistic an explanation. they weren't as good a team as the sox (w/out doubt the best team in baseball after nomar and trot returned), and they won 9 less games while enduring similar if not more detrimental injuries and playing in what was probably a tougher division. that sounds about right to me. i know it sounds terribly frigid, but the last month or two is probably best viewed objectively as a correction of sorts. (this isn't to say that chemistry plays no role, but unless you have guys out there wanting NOT to win (and that's always possible i'm sure) i find it difficult to believe that in a sport as individualistic as baseball it's ever a deciding factor.

― John (jdahlem), Saturday, 30 October 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

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― John (jdahlem), Saturday, 30 October 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose I said "chemistry" in large part because I think the Cubs, esp. since the playoffs last year, seem to be a psychologically fragile team.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Kerry Wood took a bat to Sammy's boom box after the last game of the year. This team's drama condensed into a tv miniseries would've been more entertaining than the world series.

― mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 1 November 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I don't care much at all for Jay Mariotti's columns but the first line of that article is OTFM.

― mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 1 November 2004 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Sosa the little baby sticks his foot further into his mouth.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/baseball/mlb/10/30/bc.bbn.sosaspeaks.ap/index.html

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 1 November 2004 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm not a sixth batter ... I'm a cleanup hitter or third because I've earned that right with almost 600 career home runs."

FUCK YOU

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 November 2004 07:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Give the Mets whatever they want!

― mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Considering all of the injuries and bullpen problems, they hung tough until the last couple weeks of the season when the Mets, Pirates, Reds and Braves make their hitting look anemic. What is really sad is that the Mets, Reds and Pirates pitching (outside of a couple of starters in Pittsburgh) were used as golf tees by the rest of the league in the second half.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

Cub fans will be happy to learn that new broadcaster Len Kasper has decent taste in music and kultcha -- I heard an interview with him on the Score today and he said his favorite album of all time was Based on Happy Times by Tommy Keene, and that he had lots of luv for the Replacements (as well as Material Issue!). His signature comedy archetype would be the Hang Kingsley character on "Larry Sanders," too. I mean, not surprising considering the guy's age (33), but still, can you imagine what Chimp Caray's answers would have been?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

GG Allin, Skrewdriver, & Creed?

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah. Huey Lewis, Mike & the Mechanics, and the Outfield.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Favorite albums: VU's Squeeze, Doors' Other Voices, Echo & the Bunnymen's Reverberation.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Kasper's power-pop band

― Sanjay McDougal (jaymc), Monday, 29 November 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Mike Koch: drums, backing vocals

Hmm...how does this guy pronounce his last name?

― boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 29 November 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Mike Hawk?

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 29 November 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Mike KROCH! Hahaha!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...

Both Prior and Wood are doubtful to start the season healthy... AGAIN!!! Two years running.

Good old Dusty.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

no need to worry, not with Jeromy Burnitz, not to mention Greg Maddux with another year of experience behind him!

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I read somewhere that Zambrano is switch-pitching this year. He's a horse, you know.

If firing the trainer didn't work then nothing will.

― mattbot (mattbot), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

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