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Comebacks against Dotel and Isringhausen, hurdling Johnson, Webb and Clemens, Cliff Floyd hitting on one leg, a game under .500 without Jose (Limoges) Reyes?? Who else is smelling MAGIC (or has the crosstown Evil Empire trademarked that)?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Who are you rooting for?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)


Next 12 games against the Phils & Fish ... with the return of Reyes? (of course Leiter and Cameron are hurtin now)... 6-6 would be acceptable, anything worse the same old song. 8-4, hope would flower in Willets Point!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

phillies and marlins STILL TIED FOR FIRST

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 27 May 2004 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)

phillies 7, mets 4

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 27 May 2004 03:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm going to the Mets/Phillies game in Philly on Monday.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)


Cool... I made the mistake of watching last night. Piazza can't throw to second no matter where he plays.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

And WTF is w/ the Mets signing walking chum like Baldwin & Blowtallico? They'd have better luck converting Pizza into a pitcher than securing any lead w/ those retreaded twerps.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Piazza can't throw to second no matter where he plays.

that's funny, I did see him actually throw out a base-stealer the other night. First time I ever saw that.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw Randall Simon take the first pitch in an AB once, too. Strange times are afoot.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

BTW, is it common knowledge that Art Howe is kinda dopey when it comes to doing his job?

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

yep.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)


For sure:

http://www.nypost.com/sports/mets/17052.htm


Are they still allowing banners into Shea? Didn't notice last month amid the security shakedown. Idea: "Billy Beane Was Right."

And now Reyes' BACK is giving him excruciating pain. As Al Franken says, oy oy oy!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Stay all 7 hours, 'stenc? What's the rain-delay entertainment in Philly like? I hope you brought a flask.

Jason Phillips has clearly cleaned his goggles.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah I was there the entire time. Philly's new stadium is beautiful and a lot of fun (even if beer sales weren't on throughout the rain delay, for obv. reasons). Best experience of the day: seeing Piazza nutmeg a slow-rolling grounder from 30-some feet away.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

also Phillips should really tell the photographer to leave the flash off next time. Every time he came up to the plate, his team photo up on the jumbotron made him look like Dagwood Bumstead or something!

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

btw how exactly are the Mets any less Satanic than the Yankees, other than they don't win? Their payroll is gi-normous, their 1b/occasional catcher sucks and is a homophobe ("I'M MIKE PIAZZA AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT I'M NOT GAY") and their owners is just as idiotic/insane as Steinbrenner, just better at staying out of the paper.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)


Several books have been written on the finer points of Yankee-hating, so I'm not gonna go too deep here. Can we agree they have the most generally noxious baseball "fans" anywhere, who believe the WS trophy is their Divine Right?

The Mets' history is filled with much more suffering, and hence is of much greater human interest.

As for Fred Wilpon vs Steinbush, I would invoke Billy Martin and say "One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

I don't think Piazza's a homophobe... just "shy."

And what's WRONG with Mets players looking like Dagwood? Obviously you don't recall George "The Stork" Theodore!

http://www.rndng3rd.com/mets/playrssz/geothe.html

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, Dagwood has a hot wife.

You know, as far as comic strip chicks go.

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

the Dagwood ref was more about little white dots from the flash bouncing off his glasses representing his eyes.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

So he wasn't pictured with a triple-decker sandwich with an olive on a toothpick stuck in the top?

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

no, although it's pretty clear that both he and Piazza take naps at their respective offices...

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)


Piazza only "sucks" on defense (and throwing is his only deadly attribute as a receiver). .313/.408/.545 isn't too shabby for a guy who's almost 36.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

then maybe he should be a DH then! way to make my argument for me.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)


If they were smart enough to get a good package for him, trading him to the AL would be OK with me. If the Mets are so PR-scared they won't "retire" John Franco, that's not gonna happen though.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

did you see his lack of range exhibited in that one grounder last night? Wow. All I can say is the Mets are lucky Philly seems to have lost the plot.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

There's no question he's a defensive liability at first -- but as long as they're not playing interleague games, what's the alternative if he's too old to catch full-time? Among qualifiers, Bagwell is last in the league in 1B Range Factor, but you don't hear anyone saying Houston should bench him.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Bagwell is last in the league in 1B Range Factor, but you don't hear anyone saying Houston should bench him.

Ugh... sadly, there are people on the Astros mlb.com board who are proposing this very thing.

boldbury (boldbury), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Houston doesn't have near the salary that the Mets do, so I could see them staying with Bagwell (who probably could get more if he left Houston and the NL) despite his range. Whereas I'm not sure that the Mets couldn't benefit greatly from trading Piazza, even with his offense.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Kaz Matsui, SS NYM

News: The New York Post reports Kaz Matsui is experimenting with contacts and glasses. He is expected to try the glasses in the field in the near future.

Analysis: Matsui has 11 errors this season and the Mets management believes his poor vision is a big reason for that.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

weird inconsistency on my part: I hate Piazza for his poor fielding but really like Kaz for no discernable reason.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Bagwell is likely never gonna be the super slugger he was in the '90s again.

Kaz is NOT having a bad year, especially in a weak year for NL shortstops (Renteria is faring far worse) and he's on the upswing.

Goggles for all!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040531/capt.pxs10605312343.mets_phillies_pxs106.jpg

Is Phillips the closest thing to indie in baseball?

Lazer Guided Mellow Leee (Leee), Thursday, 3 June 2004 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Did you miss Piazza's braided beard a couple years ago?

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 3 June 2004 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes. I suppose I'm fortunate.

Lazer Guided Mellow Leee (Leee), Thursday, 3 June 2004 00:21 (twenty-two years ago)


Ya Gotta Have Zeal! with Zeile!

hstencil, you hata, I hope you saw Piazza make that DIVING stop in the second last night; it was Keith Hernandez redux!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)

no, I missed that, and I turned the game off when the Phillies blew the lead.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Going to the game on Saturday; get to see if Ginter looks at all good in person. I'm nervous.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Thursday, 3 June 2004 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)


You get a real measure of the ill will Mets' management has built up when they only drew 20,000 for last night's game, with the Mets coming off a sweep of Philly.

And Reyes was visiting in the dugout, and almost got hit by a foul!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

wow! that's pretty low attendance for a Thursday night (which is the new Friday night).

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

At the game on Saturday -- 1 PM weekend day game against the Marlins -- paid attendance was 24,000. I'm kind of shocked. I'm also shocked that the Mets obviously have no self-discipline at the plate; they should have had four or five more walks than they did, off the Marlins starter in the early innings and off Benitez in the ninth. I'm frustrated.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Monday, 7 June 2004 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

you did get to see Mikey hit two homers tho.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 7 June 2004 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Yesterday had the biggest crowd of the series, still under 26,000. I think the major factor was the Mets priced it as a "Gold" series, ie the most expensive -- I know that's why I didn't go. Florida may be the world champions, but a casual Yankee fan I know can't even remember Josh Beckett's name. With such a feeble past couple years, they should've made the NY-NY games the only Gold tix.

The Yankees being home simultaneously didn't help, and the non-hardcore fans are still waiting for this team to flame out.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 June 2004 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, Saturday's game was really entertaining, albeit disappointing. It was funny -- every single person in that stadium knew Piazza was gonna crank one of Benitez, as I'm sure Armando knew too. The only question was basically which of the first three pitches would it be.

x-post - you're probably right about the pricing, Morbius -- I didn't realize that, since a friend had free tix from work.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Monday, 7 June 2004 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Steve Phillips is still running this team from an electrical closet in Shea...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=1818365


Yeah, why do the Mets need a young 2B with a .386 ON-BASE when they can play "Where to Throw?" Wigginton there?!? Especially when they need a roster spot for GERALD FREAKIN' WILLIAMS!!! *sob*

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

wow. did his minor league profile portend something like that?

John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe Karim threatened to stomp him.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Or pee on his favorite pizzeria.

mattbot (mattbot), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)


And G-Will botches his first 2 leftfield plays. If Duquette's learning curve has quickened slightly, that wasteoid will disappear faster than James Baldwin.

Your '04 Mets -- "Older and Less Athletic."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 June 2004 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

But he went deep! ICE ICE BABY!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 June 2004 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

this Mets hat is going back in the closet - JUST LIKE PIAZZA!

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

okay, looking at the line, Bottalico and Stanton both had good innings.

choice Times quotes:

Howe made his first foray onto the field when the first-base umpire, Mike Di Muro, ruled that the Mets did not complete a double play on Cleveland's Coco Crisp, resulting in a run. Then he challenged Di Muro again when Crisp was called safe on a high throw from Ginter that pulled Mike Piazza off first base, leading to two more runs. The Mets have had plenty of trouble with Di Muro, who called two balks Tuesday on Steve Trachsel, and will be behind the plate today.

As Howe left, Piazza was the one flinging his arms in frustration. Once he could not flag down a hard grounder, once he could not make a throw to first, and once he couldn't do either. All in all, Piazza had the kind of game that made him initially dread a position change.

He let one ball bounce off his chest, picked it up and threw it away for an error. He had made another wide throw earlier, but Ginter bailed him out with a backhanded scoop in the dirt. Piazza's only miscue that cost the Mets came in the first inning, when he let one of many shots to the right side slither down the line. Gerald Williams could not field the ball cleanly, and when he finally got it in, second baseman Ty Wigginton threw wild to the plate, another error, and another run.

"I don't think any first baseman would have had some of those," Piazza said. "Besides the one error, I don't think there was any mistake I had. The rest were doubles."

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

He has the range of Steve (Monument) Garvey around the bag. And of course, Garvey's 55.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 June 2004 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

VORP Adjusted Runs Prevented
Looper 11.1 10.5
Bottalico 3.5 3.7
Stanton 3.1 0.9
Franco -0.6 -4.4
Weathers -1.3 -4.9

What are these numbers for Ricky Stone?

boldbury (boldbury), Thursday, 17 June 2004 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm hoping the Hidalgo acquisition means bye-bye to both Ice Williams and Karim Garcia, but knowing the Mets suits Eric Valent may be the casualty...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 June 2004 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey everyone -- if you watched the game last night (Thursday 6/17), you might've seen Mike Cameron hit a homer over the left field fence in the fifth, shortly after an endless rain delay. You might even have seen an uncoordinated, lanky dude reach over the bleacher railing and snag the ball -- yeah, that was me. I got me a gen-u-wine MEts homer ball. Um, off the bat of Mike Cameron, but still pretty cool in my blinkered little world...

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 18 June 2004 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Stone: 0.0 VORP, -2.3 Adjusted Runs Prevented

I'm not positive, but I think the BP stats don't require a subscription to view: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/

mattbot (mattbot), Friday, 18 June 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

hey Hurlo, at least Cameron's had a 4HR game.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

What is it with ILB member attendance and rain delays? I missed the Cameron HR, lulled to sleep by FoxSportsNY rerun grist (the slowbrained Fran Healy with Kiner and Piazza -- Mike is comforted by Virgin Mary appearance stories among other Catholic phenomena) and the Hidden Cameras' CD (best gay anti-marriage song, btw).

Mets have about 6 1Bs now, with Howe claiming he may put Shane and Karim there too. Jason Phillips may need to hit soon.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 June 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Phillips had a pretty decent month between last week and the 2nd week of May, I think.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 18 June 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I got me a gen-u-wine MEts homer ball.

You should have given it to a kid, you big jerk.

Stone: 0.0 VORP, -2.3 Adjusted Runs Prevented

Nevermind, Stone got sent down this week.


boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 18 June 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, so...are BP just reworking their site, or have they finally made the stats section pay-only?

John (jdahlem), Friday, 18 June 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice catch HURLO!!!! You deserve some sort of award for that feat, especially if no fielders/small children were involved in the play.

I Love Baseball shines a little brighter today. Pray for sun too, eh?

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm registered w/ BP, and used to be a paid subscriber (& will hop back on the wagon when I get a chance to), but am proud freeloader right now, and I can access the stats just fine.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 18 June 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm getting a screen where it tells me to select a year, but when i select one, nothing happens. i can still access the "cards" (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/beltrca01.shtml)

John (jdahlem), Friday, 18 June 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

go to "audit team" and pick your forsaken crew from the dropdown and see what happens.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha -- of course I would have given the ball to a kid, you buncha cynics! But after that endless rain delay, they were all long gone. My section of the bleachers was me, my wife, two friends, and one crazy superfan guy. Who was like 40, and muttered to himself a lot...

I actually gave the ball away this morning to my coworker Ellen, who is the biggest Mets fan I know -- she's been calling people all morning telling them about it. I am officially a hero in the office for a day.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I told all the Mets fans in my office, you're a hero out in SF too.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Sweet. My brother called me this morning 'cause he saw the highlights on NY1 this morning -- he knew I was in the bleachers, and he was like "I could tell it was someone built like you, and I figured no one else would actually sit through a rain delay like that..."

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

gygax - that works too, but it's not like, their cool stats or anything. can you get ARP and VORP and all that junk?

John (jdahlem), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

oh those stats are just a passing phase John, what you really need to pay attention to are "productive outs".

joe morgan (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

"Mets fans will have to forgive outfielder Mike Cameron if he looked confused on Thursday night. Cameron hit a ball in the fifth inning that sailed over the left field wall for a home run. It was his first such shot since May 10, and Cameron may have forgotten what to do in such a case. "We haven't seen the real Mike Cameron in New York yet," manager Art Howe told Newsday. Cameron now has eight homers on the season to go along with 11 steals and a .205 batting average."

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Briefly, after the homer, his average was up to .207! To be nicer, though, he almost made an incredible leaping over-the-shoulder catch at one point, that made me think he's got some nice chops in the outfield. I mean, he didn't get the catch, but it looked pretty much impossible anyway.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I may have told this story before, but here it is again:

The day of the parade for the Rockets' first championship in 1994, a buddy and drove to Houston from Beaumont for the event. After the parade, we decided to catch the Astros game that evening, so we went to the Astrodome, bought two Pavilion tickets and staked out two seats in the second row in left-center field. Jeff Bagwell hit three home runs that day, two in one inning. In that inning, the second bomb landed one row in front of me and the guy sitting there caught it with his bare hands. On Sportscenter highlight that night, you could distinctly see a guy standing there with a red Rockets jersey on. That was me. That was the closest I've ever come to getting a ball at a game.

boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Despite some early misplays, Cameron is 2nd in both Range Factor & Zone Rating among NL CFs, a hair behind... Jay Payton.

I'll be at Leiter vs Tigers Saturday -- and after the game it's Merengue Night! So root for 22 innings and Bloomberg's noise police shutting the concert down.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I picked up my first foul ball ever a couple weeks back at a minor league game. A little soft liner hit right at me on the 3B line, I reach up to make the barehanded catch, miss horribly, the ball hits me in the chest and falls to the seats. Fortunately I have the finest reflexes of all my friends (i.e., had had the least to drink) and snatched the ball of the ground.

I don't think I even made the Jumbotron though :(

(xpost!!!)

mattbot (mattbot), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)


Can't believe my good luck to attend the Return of Reyes, let alone a come-from-behind 10-inning win.

When Jose tripled with one out in the 10th, I explained to my ex-roomie that Detroit would fill the bases with Wigginton and Floyd to get to the pitcher's spot, and that Spencer would pinch-hit (Piazza already had). That's exactly what happened, to full-throated booing at the IBBs. I realize fundamental knowledge of baseball strategy is as scarce in the major-league stands as Fassbinder fanatics at a matinee screening of "DodgeBall," but it still bugs me. (Spencer hit into a force at home -- taa da! -- before Cameron hit one over the LF's head to win it.)

Goddamn Al (Pitch-Happy) Leiter... 37 thrown in the first inning, 123 over six.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 June 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
I heard hstencil cackling when Piazza sprained his wrist at first ... you mean man!

Well, David Wright has arrived... he looks damn smooth at third, and I don't often say this about 21-year-olds, but he's HAWT.

Mike Stanton is the means by which Mets fans measure our pain.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I swear I didn't say nothing! I don't like him but I don't wish injury on the guy.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there a reason he's tied for the lead in pitcher appearances (Stanton, that is)? Every time I've seen him come into a game, he coughs up the lead to the very first batter he faces - does that mean I should stop watching Mets games?

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

No, Art Howe brings him in when you're not looking too.... It only seems like every time.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Like today, it was Tweedledum aka John Franco surrendering the go-ahead HR.

EARTH TO JIM FUCKING DUQETTE!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 July 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)


RIP, Murph...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1851559

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
Re the thread title, they are certainly NYC's DAMNED team...

Attended a major/minor-league double for the first time ever... First saw the Mets' "B" squad drop their fourth straight to the San Diego Lorettas 10-3 (game was NOT as close as the score indicates...I made several seat upgrades at 7-0 and 10-0), then got on the train to Coney where Brooklyn thumped Oneonta 11-2. What a reward, two blowouts in 9 hours.

Never before seen, at the Mets game: catcher Vance Wilson, without the ball and with no one covering home, shoving a Padre runner back toward third base. No obstruction called.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
bad news for art howe

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 13 September 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

An important but incomplete move. Fire the Wilpons!

(Nelson Doubleday, we hardly knew ye...)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 September 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Howe "fires" back.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

When was the last time a manager who's been officially fired finished the season? Weird.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
Only the Mets could make the retirement of a journeyman like Todd Zeile the centerpiece of their finale, but it was sweet to see him launch one with his last swing ... then catch a foul pop for what was certainly John Franco's last career out. (When GoJohnnyGo entered and yielded a hit to Termel Sledge, I got misty when I heard for the last time from a Shea upper-deck partisan "YOU SUCK, FRANCO!!!")

I wish there were more Met masochists here and fewer whiny Cub fans.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Morb, had they not cut bait on Kazmir, my burgeoning Mets crush would have undoubtedly blossomed full and bright and I would probably be right there asufferin' w/ you.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Instant popularity at the office, Tri-Staters, CAN BE YOURS! I love "subject to his availability."


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Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha

god i fucking hate mascots

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Along with many other teams, the Mets' tentative 2005 sched is out:

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/nym/schedule/tentative_2005_season_schedule.jsp


Now if Bonds can limit himself to 11 HR in the season's first third, I can see him pass Ruth when SF visits in early June...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 November 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
From Jim Baker in BP:

Mets poised on the brink of history


Readers of this column know the real reason the Mets signed Carlos Beltran. It was to bring together the most accomplished base thief in history with the fourth-most accomplished base-stealing team in history so as to pursue this all-important team record, expense be damned!

Here are the top five all-time best basestealing teams ever:


1) 1994 Orioles (84.15%), 69 SB, 13 CS
2) 1995 Blue Jays (82.42%), 75 SB, 16 CS
3) 1975 Reds (82.35%), 168 SB, 36 CS
4) 2004 Mets (82.30%), 107 SB, 23 CS
5) 1962 Dodgers (82.16%), 198 SB, 43 CS

The addition of Beltran and his career 89% success rate nearly guarantee the Mets the record--especially if they don't let anybody but Beltran attempt steals. Kidding, of course. They've got a number of guys who just refuse to lose on the basepaths:
Jose Reyes: career 32 for 37 (86%)
David Wright: career 6 for 6 (100%)
Kazuo Matsui: career 14 for 17 (82%)

These are very small sample sizes from three players who haven't spent a lot of time in the majors just yet, but if stealing is limited to this core on a limited basis, the record is theirs for the taking. Now, if they could add Carlos Delgado and keep Mike Cameron (who is bound to bounce back from his 2004), then there will be more to talk about than team stealing records.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 January 2005 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I had no idea that the orioles stole that much! I can't think of that many os with wheels.

btw I'm wearing my mets hat today.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 22 January 2005 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Interesting how the top two teams were in strike-shortened seasons. Maybe the basestealers get tired as the season goes on? I demand an asterisk.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 22 January 2005 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Jason Phillips to LA for Ishii.

Man, Ishii's walk rates are horrible, and his ERAs are 5 or worse once you factor out Dodger Stadium. Rick Peterson needs to put him in the Miracle Lab with Victor Zambrano.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. Does that make Phillips the D's catcher?

I wonder what the park factors are for Chavez Ravine & Shea - I'd imagine they're comparable, w/ Shea coming out on top...?

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 21 March 2005 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Phillips is the guy and Ross has been banished to the minor leagues. The deal seemed kinda interesting because it leaves the Dodgers on the hook for alot of Ishii's contracutal obligations if he doesnt work out in NY.

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Monday, 21 March 2005 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Or even if he does -- LA is required to pay something like 2/3 of his salary, since there was a $3 M disparity in the contracts.

As a pitcher's park, I'm pretty sure Dodger Stadium is one of the most extreme, moreso than Shea.

And cutting Joe (White Way) McEwing is a good move.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)


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