D-Dub's Cycle

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How does this tub o' goo hit a triple?

What I can't believe is the number of kooks this even has brought out over on the Astros boards saying we never should have traded this guy. The Astros let Moises Alou go so Ward could start in 2002 and he promptly spared everybody to death with a near-complete power outage and by consistently playing singles into doubles in left field. There are even a couple of whack jobs playing the race card saying he was traded because he doesn't fit the Astros "Good ol' boy mold".

Oh, baseball message boards make me crazy.


Except for this one.

boldbury (boldbury), Thursday, 27 May 2004 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

the last is so true!

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 27 May 2004 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"How does this tub o' goo hit a triple?"

It has been over ten years ago, but I still am blown away by the idea that Jim Abbott hit a triple off of Rick Reuschel in spring training. That is one that I would have liked to see.

earlnash, Thursday, 27 May 2004 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Daryl Ward hits a triple the same way Mo Vaughn stole bases - with sex appeal.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

What is the fascination with THE CYCLE, especially among those smarter than Karl Ravech? Baseball is not a card game.
You're better off with two doubles and two homers.

I definitely remember a Carl Everett interview where the Dino Denier said "If Daryle Ward palyed every day .. .superstar." So he's not too bright about this epoch either.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

why trouble ourselves with the boring cycle when we could watch HOT OBPS ACTION

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 27 May 2004 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

ha, yes i must once again disagree w/ morbius here

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 27 May 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, really... can ya at least defend why it's meaningful, in and of itself? A guy comes up with a single, double, homer in the 9th and you ROOT for a TRIPLE? That's just weird, like watching your odometer flip zeroes. A numbers fetish.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

It's one of the many little quirky and, yes, ultimately meaningless aspects of baseball that help to make the game all the more enjoyable. That's the beautiful thing about this game.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Morbius, if you continue on this line of thought & tell me you frown upon folks screaming at the TV because the dipshit Mets announcer can't stop mentioning that Tom Glavine is perfect through 6, then I don't know anymore about anything anywhere.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, really... can ya at least defend why it's meaningful, in and of itself?

not meaningful, interesting. just as a triple play is no more meaningful than 3 ground ball outs but much more enjoyable to watch. at least to some people.


A guy comes up with a single, double, homer in the 9th and you ROOT for a TRIPLE? That's just weird, like watching your odometer flip zeroes. A numbers fetish.

the irony of a self-described "sabrematrician" calling someone on a numbers fetish is delicious.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 28 May 2004 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

i know, i couldn't tell if that was intentional! i'm still shocked that out of all the elements of a cycle the doc chooses to diss on the TRIPLE!

John (jdahlem), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

"the doc chooses to diss on the TRIPLE!"

Especially when it is a 270 pound outfielder running for one, this guy isn't quite a full Luzinski, but he is close.

No matter what, one of the most played football highlights every season is when a huge defensive tackle makes an intereception or fumble recovery and returns it back for a touchdown.

earlnash, Friday, 28 May 2004 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

a huge defensive tackle makes an intereception or fumble recovery and returns it back for a touchdown.

It has to be said:

RUMBLIN', STUMBLIN', BUMBLIN'...

boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 28 May 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

>a self-described "sabrematrician"

When have I EVER? I don't recall doing so; I am merely a SABR member (who does no original research myself). And SABR folk do *more* than stat analysis, but that delusion thrives when you read mostly what their critics say about 'em. ...However, if I accepted your premise, there's all the difference between trying to analyze important numbers and golly-geeing over 4 AB's of... I'll say it, LUCK.

A trriple play happens all at once, and hence is more exciting. While "the cycle" is seriously discussed as an achievement, at least on JockSPN.

A broadcaster's job is to trumpet important stuff, including in-progress perfect games, I'd say.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

You want broadcasters to do the JINX??

Lazer Guided Mellow Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

cf. Mets drive-thru clownhead Dave O'Brien crowing about Glavine's perfect game about 67 times between the 5th inning and Glavine giving up a hit (which I bitched about earlier) (& will continue to bitch about). Blah blah SHUT UP.

Contrast that w/ the decorum & restraint exercised by Red Sox bucket o' fun Don Orsillo, who managed to not drop the word PERFECT into his commentary this Sunday despite the Fenway crowd getting antsy going into the 6th inning with Schilling having put down 15 straight Mariners.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah i fucking hate when announcers do that. plus it's really cool when they try and slip around it for an entire game.

John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think anyone seriously considers the cycle some sort of perfect-game level achievement, but it's just a fun game stat, one of many.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)


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