what the FUCK [clemens to boston????]

If they pulled him back, then a trade can't happen. The Astros would have to put him on waivers again and this time waivers would irrevocable. Once somebody claimed him he would be gone with no option to trade him or pull him back.

Hard to see the Astros making that kind of move.

Either Lobel or Lupica is wrong about something.

so fuck.

um, let's see, boston put manny on irrevocable waivers yes. but there's no indication that that's what the astros did to clemens- the Story is that the astros put him on waivers, he got claimed by boston and boston only (the other teams, which would, now that i think about it, actually be EVERYONE but NYY [who don't matter since the sox have priority over them], passed) and the astros are working out a big deal with the sox.

I really dislike Clemens, and he's never even played for a team I follow closely.

i'm surfing the various message boards, and no one has a clue what's going on in any way at any level, basically.

The principal difference in engineering trades going forward is this: a player can be dealt only after passing through waivers, essentially exposed to the other teams in reverse order of the standings.

Waiver lists, incidentally, are a regular, everyday part of baseball.

Throughout the season, players -- even headliners -- routinely and quietly go on waiver lists. It is an easy way for a team to gauge interest in certain players, perhaps setting in motion subsequent trade talks, since they can simply be withdrawn from the list if there is a claim.

!!!

i hope that's right. apparently a lot of people think otherwise. there's no fucking way clemens could've slipped past the yankees...right?

what the fuck. i've actually been experiencing (for no apparent reason) a not-seen-in-years calm about the yankees the past week or so and then i log onto that sox board and see this staring me in the face.

# If a player isn't claimed by any team in either league, he can be traded until the end of the month to anyone.

# If a player is claimed, but only by one team, the player can be traded only to the team that claims him.

# If a player is claimed by more than one team, the club with the worst record in that player's league gets priority -- and the player can be traded only to that team.

So even if the Yanks put in a claim on him, they have a better record than the Bosox and don't have priority on Clemens.

so stark is saying you can work out a trade even if a player doesn't clear waivers. so this rumor is still on.

supposedly the sox wouldn't give up youkilis.