― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 19 December 2003 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― metfigga (metfigga), Friday, 19 December 2003 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 19 December 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― metfigga (metfigga), Saturday, 20 December 2003 02:00 (twenty-two years ago)
I think it's wrong to drop that kind of scratch (especially at this time of year) to buy a piece of history with the express purpose of destroying it. Typical stupid feelgood Cubs bullshit. I think the ball is significant and should not be destroyed, but what can you do when the Deep Pockets crew gets involved with one of their brilliant ideas.
Dicks!
― gusbot (eternal_fields), Sunday, 21 December 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Leee Marvin (Leee), Sunday, 21 December 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)
"We are going to destroy this ball because we don't like what it stands for (us losing)."
It's not like it's some Nazi memorabilia. It's an artifact loaded with meaning from a spectacular and surreal NLCS.
And while I'm at it, I'm having a real hard time understanding all the Bartman pity/sympathy. This "he did what anyone in his position would do" line of thinking is all-wrong. He got in the way, hurt the team he claims to love and was the catalyst in a really unusual chain of events that will be long remembered, regardless of stoopid ball destruction ceremonies and the like.
― gusbot (eternal_fields), Sunday, 21 December 2003 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Leee Marvin (Leee), Monday, 22 December 2003 04:03 (twenty-two years ago)
And I'm not sure it's a fact that several other people were reaching for the ball. Photographs shot from the angle facing the Bartman show several people recoiling from the action.
The ball was practically halved by the plane separating the field from the stands. He reached for it and flubbed it. You don't do that at home in that situation. A good baseball fan doesn't. I realize this can be argued all day, however.
I'm not saying Steve Bartman alone should bear the entire burden of another near-miss for the Cubs, but because he clumsily introduced himself into the situation, the ball has become significant and I think it's pretty typical (in that dopey Radio-720 sort of way) that some deep-pocketed Cubs fans would get involved and try to cleanse the record by destroying the ball.
― gusbot (eternal_fields), Monday, 22 December 2003 05:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Leee Marvin (Leee), Monday, 22 December 2003 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― metfigga (metfigga), Monday, 22 December 2003 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)
It sounds like they're going to use ILM err Industrial Light & Magic to fake the destruction and keep the ball in the safe someplace.
― Leee = y'know... whitey (Leee), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 26 February 2004 06:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― ojitarian (ojitarian), Thursday, 26 February 2004 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)
the ball is being blown up in an all-day charity event to benefit the jdrf (juvenile diabetes research foundation). the jdrf hopes to raise $1,000,000 from the festivities. i'd say something good is coming of it.
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 26 February 2004 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― ojitarian (ojitarian), Friday, 27 February 2004 03:52 (twenty-two years ago)
mlb network greatest game ever series is doing the bartman game tonight
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 April 2011 20:29 (fifteen years ago)