hating on the Yankees, 2005

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Jim Baker's final comment on his Prospectus chat this week is too rich not to share:

"The Yankees do not need to ever get younger. Ever. As long as the money flows like Lightning Creek down a wino's gullet, they will be able to choose only the finest and most properly aged veterans. Men like Carl Pavano, Tony Womack and Jaret Wright -- wait, scratch those. You know what I'm saying, though. It's a truism in sports, talent will go where the money is. In soccer, where there are many, many major leagues, the richest clubs end up with the best players and so it is in baseball with the Yankees, the MF United of America. With their money, the can treat the rest of the sport like a giant farm system. They are, in a way, in the top tier of an elaborate pyramid scheme."

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Hating on the Yankees is my favorite pasttime.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I got excited during that ESPN 2005 Baseball commercial because they were abducting Jeter. Then I realized it was only a dream.

― Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't be shocked if the Yankees manage to not make the playoffs this year though (maybe I'm just deluding myself.) There's a lot of potential injured reserve list time on that roster.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

In baseball sims/games, I find myself re-simming any series where my team doesn't sweep the Yanqui scum.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The New York Yankees: Buying Themselves Out of World Series Rings Since 2001.

― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh not really.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Um, yeah, sort of. They just continue to throw money at their holes, which is fine to get to the playoffs & all, but when the money's going to old folk and/or overrated folk ... well, you get what you pay for. It wouldn't be so bad if Torre actually used a little flair or imagination in his managerial style, but he's a by-the-book stiff, prone to really shitty bullpen abuse patterns and letting player ego / player tenure / no-hit faves rule the school. I stand by my sloganeering (which I'd like to see on a t-shirt outside of Fenway instead of the usual JETER SUCKS A-ROD nonsense).

― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 19 March 2005 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

King George did the same thing in the 80s. The Yanks squandered a loaded minor league in bad trades and poor free agent signings all of which got them to finish 2nd in the AL East for quite a few years straight and then collapse into the mess that Bob Watson and Buck Showalter put back together.

I wouldn't blame Torre for their past few seasons, the guy was pretty ace during their championship run for putting the right person in the right place at the right time. It hasn't worked of late, but the current team while having much more name recognition strikes out way too much, doesn't play defense as well and is not as deep as it was in the late 90s.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Saturday, 19 March 2005 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

communists.

― Shaun (shaun), Sunday, 20 March 2005 11:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 20 March 2005 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Where?

― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 20 March 2005 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Here?

http://www.banglabel.com/largetee_blue.htm

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Leave it to Red Sox Nation to make the spoils and benefits of winning seem like the suck.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Hah I would have one of those shirts if I was a sox fan. My 1918 hat sits on top of my stereo now, never to be worn again.

― Shaun (shaun), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

It's interesting to me (being a Yankees fan since age 5) that the fortunes of the team have to some extent mirrored the economic health / reputation of the city. In the early 80s when I was growing up, kids would stab you for a quarter, and bums would shit in cardboard boxes in front of our house. And the team sucked (with the exception of Winfield and a few other marquee players). And now look at it, and the city. A lot of what Steinbrenner has brought to the team through his financial strong-arming would have been a lot more difficult had the city never had its upswing beginning around 1990.

― 57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm, a possibly dubious linkage -- the city seems to be doing "well" largely for tourists and folks who can actually afford to go to several Yankee games a year. And the most dramatic NYY renaissance of the last 30 years was the '77-78 Reggie Yankees, linked to a NYC-as-hellhole peak, as in this book:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/30/books/30grim.html?

Um, the early-mid '80s Yanks "sucked"? '83-88 they won 85 to 97 games every year. That qualifies as suckitude if the WS trophy is your divine right? '89-92 they were sub-.500.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

& they played in the World Series in '81, didn't they? A team that features Willie Randolph (& Steve Sax), Dave Winfield, Donnie Baseball, and RICKEY HENDERSON can't be all bad. (Who the hell was on their pitching staff, tho, besides Rags? Guidry?)

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Steve Balboni

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

An excellent xpost if I do say so myself. I really just felt I had to mention him.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice.

― 57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

>>>Who the hell was on their pitching staff, tho, besides Rags? Guidry?

Phil Niekro was the ace for at least one of those years, Gossage was still around in the early 80s. I checked baseball-reference to be reminded they had Doug Drabek (7-9, 4.10 in '86), Tommy John, Dennis Rasmussen and some awful bullpens.

― Shaun (shaun), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd totally forgotten Shane Rawley was in the rotation for 2 years!

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 April 2005 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

The O's drop a six pack in four innings on Jarret Wright's Yankee debut. Ouch!

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Everytime I hear that Mr. Wright pitches for the Yankees I smile a little. Then I remember that they signed him to a multi-year contract at some ridiculous amount and I giggle a lot.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

well for one thing, wright mysteriously lost movement on his pitches. at the outset, he was hitting corners and all that jazz, but in the third everthing just started hanging out over the plate. it was weird.

that and that bernie williams has no business playing centerfield. i mean, i know there's a lot of space to cover out there in yankee stadium, but it seemed like every ball hit in his direction would've been a single w/ an outfielder more fleet of foot.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Saturday, 9 April 2005 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i would also like to say that the yes broadcast team is unbelievably annoying. i mean, i guess i expect homerism from a franchise's broadcast team, but it's like these yobs don't even care about calling the damn game! just one pointless, self-referential story after another.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Sunday, 10 April 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

was brent musberger involved?

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 11 April 2005 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Did you catch them yesterday saying 6 or 7 guys in the Yank lineup could hit cleanup? Today? When they got to Bernie and Tino I laughed heartily.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to think Singleton is avoiding that nonsense, & it's just Kaat & Kay & Mercer (& maybe Paulie) toeing the company line.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

uh, yeah.

i have to say, too...while the o's weren't spraying hits around right & left center yesterday like they were saturday, bubba crosby still saved a few hits. i mean, compared to old man williams, he's like a human dynamo.

i also liked basically blaming the loss on jorge posada doglegging it on his shot off the wall. i'm sure giving up 7 runs didn't affect the outcome at all. yeesh.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

But Yankee Pride is at stake, jonathan! You don't understand how important EVERY SINGLE AT-BAT is, especially w/ how shittay their pitching staff can (potentially) be.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess i never will. to some extent, i understand the puffery that emanates from the house that ruth built, but when you read the post-game quotes of some of these guys (hey, derek awesome!) it's all too clear that hubris is a concept that hasn't entered the clubhouse.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

btw...if steinbrenner's horse wins the kentucky derby, i will FREAK OUT!

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 14 April 2005 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

April 13 - The Yankees hired Chad Bohling on Wednesday as their newly created director of optimal performance. General Manager Brian Cashman said Bohling would handle motivational and mental-skills issues at the major and minor league levels for players and coaches.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 15 April 2005 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Hypnotist: You are all very good players...
Yankees: [entranced] We are all very good players...
Hypnotist: You will beat the Red Sox...
Yankees: We will beat the Red Sox...
Hypnotist: You will give one hundred and ten percent...
Yankees: That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred
percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give...

― ojitarian (ojitarian), Friday, 15 April 2005 06:19 (twenty-one years ago)

i said shave those sideburns, mattingly!

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Still I like him better than Steinbrenner.

― Donny Baseball (Leee), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

monty burns? at least he makes no bones about being e-ville.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Donny, w/ your back problems, I'm surprised you stuck around as long as you did! (& if you're not gonna shave it off, at least clean it off, k?)

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently Chad Bohling is NOT doing his job and Stein-y is pissed!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 17 April 2005 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

"It is unbelievable to me that the highest-paid team in baseball would start the season in such a deep funk."

Somebody's not grokking the concept of cause and effect.

― Curious George (1/6 Scale Model) (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 17 April 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

BRIAN ROBERTS, YANQUI KILLAH

seriously can we talk about how awesome roberts is?

― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 17 April 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm more w/ labeling Brian Roberts as Flukezilla, but, by all means, play on playa.

George Steinbrenner is a soulless braindead asshat and is getting exactly what he deserves. All my tears and sympathies re: the Yankees' "plight" (OH NO WE ARE NOT WINNING THE WORLD SERIES IN APRIL WTF?!?!) are saved for either Brian Cashman or Brian Cashman's dog.

― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 17 April 2005 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

got to see kevin brown pick up right where he left off in alcs game seven today--and the brooms were out in baltimore

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"flukezilla?" goddamn you DO hate baseball, dave.

― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

the Yanquis have essentially no room for acquisitions either, right? No one cheap to move, no one will take a Bernie Williams without having his contract covered plus more money on top (and even then what are they going to get back?).

Watching (listening to) him stew all season could be a once-in-a-baseball-generation joy.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"flukezilla?" goddamn you DO hate baseball, dave.

When a 5'8" second baseman hits more homers in the first two weeks of the season than he did all of last year, it's not unpatriotic to call that a fluke.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 17 April 2005 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Stence, plz to get your hate-dar out of my ass and/or in the shop & see what MIR said re: Roberts' uncharacteristic power surge. If he keeps on keepin' on, kudos & more power (har) to him, but I'm just being pragmatic in this matter. Feel free to book me one-way to Camp X-Ray if need be, tho - I could use the vacation.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 18 April 2005 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Especially if you're going to follow me around on ILB all HATE HATE HATE HATE like some old black-shawled woman from a Universal horror flick.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 18 April 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

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Not as klassik as Shove-Rod's purse & hat, but nice.

I got a tkt to Monday's game (Big Ugly alas), but I think I'll have a better view of Boog's BBQ. Are the O's gonna lay down for all 8 of these games?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

GEE I HOPE SO.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

allyzay got an extra ticket? how long you in town? let's get drinks!

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

was at the game last night. box seats on third base! hotness! one-armed shark girl sitting right in front!!

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

I meant next Thursday, not this Thursday. hstencil if you come to B'more I'll get you a ticket.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

oh i thot you were coming here. bummer.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

again, i don't know where this schoenfeld fellow on espn page 2 comes from, but his "who the fuck is aaron small?" piece is fairly amusing.

and re: o's, a poster to btf put it best: who's corn flakes did walter young take a shit in?

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

Answer: his own. Dude only slugged .438 in AAA this year.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

Jaret Wright got hit again on the mound by another line drive! That makes three starts in the past few weeks where he has either gotten hit by a linedrive or now a bat while pitching. I cannot remember a pitcher ever getting tagged like that many times in such a short period of time.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 25 September 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)

I'll be seeing 'Perfect' Small @ Camden tom'w night.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 25 September 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

There is a very distinct possibility that the Yanquis could finish tge season with the best record in the AL.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 29 September 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

If the Yanks make the playoffs, I think they will win it all.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

They might, but I doubt it. I don't think the Yanks or the Red Sox are going to win this year. Shitty pitching always dooms teams and I don't buy that Aaron Small and Shawn Chacon can really change that.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

I think this might be STL's year, in the end.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Except over the last month the Cardinals' pitching is suddenly as suspect as any of the contenders.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

The Yanks pitching has been improved over the past few months and I think their lineup could rip any of the teams pitching except maybe the Astros starters to shreds. The limitations of NY's 3, 4 and 5 starters won't matter as much in the playoffs. I just can't see the White Sox or Angels being a threat to NY, they don't have enough juice at the plate to really expose the Yank pitching in a short series. Cleveland has enough pitching and hitting to beat the Yanks and any series with Boston is just different.

Starting in 2001 when the Yanks lost to the D-Backs, NY seem most vulnerable as a team to clubs with pitching that gets them to strikeout a bunch which is why I think they got caught by the Angels in 02 and Marlins in 03. Last year was odd and crazy, so I can't say that was the case against Boston, although their bats did go just as cold as their pitching in the collapse.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

man i hope the padres win it all

― gear (gear), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

I am rooting for the National League.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

xpost - what, so gygax! will have an aneurysm? i don't wish that on my enemies, much less my friends, bro.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

The limitations of NY's 3, 4 and 5 starters won't matter as much in the playoffs.

Of course, the 3,4 and 5 starters aren't the problem as much as Home Run Randy and Schitzophrenic Mike.

― Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

randy's been pretty dominating lately tho, right?

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

If the Padres can make it past the Cardinals and the Braves then they deserve to win the whole enchilada.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

If the Padres win even one playoff game I will be thrilled. The Cardinals are awfully good.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Randy's been doing slightly better, yeah. At least the last few times I watched.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

heheh, maybe if THE GIAMBINO was still juicin' he'd have made a better throw!

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 October 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

So was that another example of A-Rod's patented gold glove defense on Damon's grounder through his legs?

And just a little FYI on that "best defensive 3B in the league" that you keep hearing about in the MVP talks:

Hank Blalock
Fielding %: .975
Errors: 23
Zone Rating: .738
Range Factor: 2.63

Alex Rodriguez
Fielding %: .973
Errors: 25
Zone Rating: .733
Range Factor: 2.60

― gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 1 October 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

You people boggle my mind. What's zone rating now?

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 1 October 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Bill James introduced us to Range Factor (RF) as, essentially, the number of outs made per game. This was convenient at the time, because we had no other context but the game. The problem is that a game is not necessarily nine innings for each fielder. As well, each fielder is dependent on his pitching staff and "luck" for opportunities.

STATS began tracking Zone Rating (ZR) as, essentially, the total number of outs per balls in a fielder�s "area of responsibility" (i.e., zone). This addressed some of the shortcomings of RF. However, STATS ZR has many shortcomings of its own. For example, each fielder is only given one zone. We know that it�s much easier to convert a ball in play into an out if the ball is hit near you, rather than on the fringes of the zone.

― gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 1 October 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

McCarver: "Randy Johnson probably needs to be coddled more than any other pitcher in baseball".

WTF HAHAHAHAHA

Big Unit needs to visit the noise board!

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 1 October 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

haha xpost: RJ's got a 3-run lead, but 51 pitches through 2 innings has got to be a little worrisome for the Yanq's bullpen.

― gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 1 October 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Of all qualified major leaguers at 3b, ARod and Blalock rank second to last and third to last in the stat, ahead of only Mark Teahen. Who is in first place? Why, none other than perennial gold glove winner Eric Chavez.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 1 October 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Damn Yankees.

If they weren't the Yankees, there'd be something to root for here ... Giambi's resurrection ... coming back from a terrible start ... somehow scrounging up enough pitching to compete ... spent only a handful of days in first place, but won the division ...

But they're the Yankees, so fuck 'em.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 1 October 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Exactly.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 2 October 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

Yeah gax, rest yr whole MVP argument on one play.

Looks like another dual-entry-winner 'pennant race' for NYY & BOS. Meaningless.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 October 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, two weeks ago it looked like we would have a nice shakeup among the AL playoff teams -- now it looks like the most boring combination will make it in: BOS, NYY, CHW, LAA.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 2 October 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

'Boring' is good! That's exactly how I would have picked them at the beginning of the season.

― simian (dymaxia), Sunday, 2 October 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

STATEMENT BY GEORGE M. STEINBRENNER,
PRINCIPAL OWNER, NEW YORK YANKEES
RE: DEPARTURE OF PITCHING COACH MEL STOTTLEMYRE

"Mel Stottlemyre will always be a Yankee. When I purchased the ball club more than 30 years ago, he was one of the team’s true stars and leaders and, during his 10 seasons as Pitching Coach, we won six American League pennants and four World Championships. While it is no secret that I can be a very difficult boss, Mel has always conducted himself as a professional and a gentleman. I wish he and Jean much success and happiness in the future."

― maura (maura), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

'no secret that I can be a very difficult boss'

― maura (maura), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

whoa!

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

"it's no secret; why did you bother saying it, Mel? Asshole."

― Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

Nugget from Prospectus the other day:

Babe Ruth in "close and late" World Series situations: 0-for-16.

NOT A TRUE YANKEE

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

Ugh, as feared, rumors of the Yankees courting Daisuke Matsuzaka have resurfaced:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=rotowire-aisukeatsuzakaanksay&prov=rotowire&type=lgns

STATS | TEAM | OFFICIAL
Daisuke Matsuzaka
: Pitcher : Seibu Lions (Japan)
Daisuke Matsuzaka (Pitcher)
DOB Sep. 13, 1980 AGE 25 BIRTH PLACE Tokyo
HEIGHT 182 cm WEIGHT 85 kg BATS- THROWS Right - Right

Year Team W L GS IP SO BB K/9 K/BB ERA WHIP
1999 Seibu Lions 16 5 25 180.0 151 55 7.55 2.75 2.60 0.99
2000 Seibu Lions 14 7 27 167.6 144 85 7.73 1.69 3.97 1.29
2001 Seibu Lions 15 15 33 240.3 214 104 8.01 2.06 3.60 1.20
2002 Seibu Lions 6 2 14 73.3 78 30 9.58 2.60 3.68 1.23
2003 Seibu Lions 16 7 29 194.0 215 71 9.97 3.03 2.83 1.22
2004 Seibu Lions 10 6 23 146.0 127 50 7.83 2.54 2.90 1.21
2005 Seibu Lions 14 13 28 214.0 226 49 9.50 4.61 2.30 1.03

He still has one year on his Seibu contract but that's never stopped the Yanquis before.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 13 October 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

Check the last two articles linked on this thread for more:

The Rolling SEIBU LIONS - CHUNICHI DRAGONS 2004 Japan Series Thread

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 13 October 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

But he's youngish! Especially for a starting pitcher! Daisukemania!!!

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 October 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

>WEIGHT 85 kg

Not enough to be a fat pussy toad, is it?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 October 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

The posting system thing is still completely odd to me for some reason. Anyway, hott.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 14 October 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

you'd post your best player too if you were offered ONE BILLION YEN

― John (jdahlem), Friday, 14 October 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

Check out that Santana/Clemens/RJ-like 2005 season. He barely had a winning record despite dominating the Japan league.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Is there any truth to this Matsui 3yr/35mil rumor I heard on the internets?

― Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

Jay Jaffe of BP on Jeter's above-avg 2005 fielding stats:

Judging by our numbers, I do think it's an A-Rod effect. Jeter's strength is his arm, so going in the hole toward third base and making the strong throw is his bread and butter, while his footwork and moving to his left towards second is his biggest defensive weakness.

Scott Brosius and Robin Ventura were excellent 3Bs but nowhere near as athletic as Rodriguez. With him to his right, Jeter can shade towards second and get to more ground balls than he did before.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 November 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

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