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It's bizarre how Johan Santana's 19 wins actually lead the majors -- since he probably won't start again in the regular season and since nobody else is in a position to overtake him, this would be the first time ever in a full, non-strike-shortened season where no pitcher in the majors wins 20 games. I'm waiting to see which ESPN commentator uses that as evidence that pitching was terrible this year.

― nate p. (natepatrin), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Another WTF: Randy Johnson has 17 wins despite having a 5.00 ERA. Has anyone else with an above-.500 record won so many of his games despite being so horseshit?

― nate p. (natepatrin), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Trachsel is close, but I remember some '30s (?) pitcher being cited recently.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Bartolo Colon went 18-12, 5.01 in 2004. I seem to remember reading something about it being a record high ERA for an 18-game winner, but I'm not sure.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

Beckett has been similarly brutal, 4.82 ERA and 36 HR. Both Johnson and Beckett have decent WHIP and Johnson's BB/K ratio is almost 3.0 so there's some positive evidence as well. Beckett was also 3 for 7 with a HR and 3 RBI.

― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

nine months pass...

wanted somewhere to post this weirdness:

Sid Fernandez allowed only 6.85 hits per nine innings for his career which isthe fourth-best total in history behind only Baseball Hall of Famers Nolan Ryan and Sandy Koufax and three-time Cy Young Award winner Pedro Martínez.

― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

AND he was Hawaiian.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

The top ten on H/9 is pretty weird:

Rank Player (age) Hits Allowed/9IP Throws
1. Nolan Ryan+ 6.555 R
2. Sandy Koufax+* 6.792 L
3. Pedro Martinez (35) 6.848 R
4. Sid Fernandez* 6.851 L
5. J.R. Richard 6.876 R
6. Andy Messersmith 6.937 R
7. Kerry Wood (30) 6.977 R
8. Hoyt Wilhelm+ 7.014 R
9. Sam McDowell* 7.034 L
10. Ed Walsh+ 7.123 R

― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

how does that list correlate with OBPA?

― Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

those are all big K guys -- except Wilhelm?

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

Don't know about that, but Pedro and Ed Walsh are the only guys in WHIP top ten.

Rank Player (age) BB + H per IP (WHIP) Throws
1. Addie Joss+ 0.9678 R
2. Ed Walsh+ 0.9996 R
3. Pedro Martinez (35) 1.0258 R
4. John Ward+ 1.0440 R
5. Christy Mathewson+ 1.0588 R
6. Walter Johnson+ 1.0611 R
7. Mordecai Brown+ 1.0658 R
8. Charlie Sweeney 1.0673 R
9. Reb Russell* 1.0800 L
10. Joe Wood 1.0854 R

― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

Messersmith, Wilhem, Walsh weren't really big SO guys. The rest are all pretty good at missing bats though (including three of the best ever.)

― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

Reb Russell, the sole lefty... interesting.

― Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

Is there a live ball-era list for WHIP? Or a post-WWII one? You can't really compare those two lists.

― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 26 July 2007 07:49 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Joe Niekro pitched in the majors for 22 seasons and came to the plate nearly 1,200 times ... and homered just once ... against his brother. And it wasn't a meaningless home run, either. In the seventh inning of a tight game, Joe's homer made the score 2-2 and he eventually won, 4-3.

― mookieproof, Friday, 19 June 2009 19:15 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

chief wilson hit 36 triples in 1912 (all-time season record). his next highest season total was 14.

http://dmbworldseriesreplay.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/chief_wilson_baseball_thumb.jpg?w=304&h=306

― buzza, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 03:07 (fifteen years ago)

thinking 'bout triples because reyes could be rare contemp player to break into top 50 all time triple leaders

― buzza, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 03:09 (fifteen years ago)

carl crawford too

― buzza, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 03:13 (fifteen years ago)

records are made to be broken, but i would be cool with the season triples record living forever in 1912 with a guy named "chief."

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 03:14 (fifteen years ago)

wasn't it because of some weird park rule?

― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 05:13 (fifteen years ago)

dead ball era triples and homerun rules were pretty O_O iirc. ground rule doubles used to count as HRs until when?

― it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 05:17 (fifteen years ago)

Barney Dreyfuss "hated cheap home runs and vowed he'd have none in his park", which led him to design a large playing field for Forbes Field. The original distances to the outfield fence in left, center, and right field were 360 feet (110 m), 462 feet (141 m), and 376 feet (115 m) respectively.

With such a large outfield space, triples and inside-the-park home runs were common.

― buzza, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 06:00 (fifteen years ago)

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