2006 ILB AWARDS

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it's time to vote for the six major awards! NL and AL MVP, NL and AL Cy Young, and NL and AL ROY.

okay so here's the deal: vote for up to ten players for each ballot, and we'll do it MLB stylee, which i believe is 14 points for first place, 9 for second, 8 for third, on down to 1 point for tenth. right?

i'll unleash the results in ilm poll fashion on Monday, Oct. 9. Please email your ballots to [email protected].

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

I move we rename the awards, for ILBB purposes. You know, in the even that we someday become more legitamite than the actual MLB awards.

Like, the AL MVP could become "Most Prawr Clutchtastic AL Non-DH" and the Cy Young Award could become the "Thermo Thinwall Certificate of Awesomeness in the Field of Ball Lobbing".

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

NL MVP = The post-Barry Bonds Era Clean Face of Old Skool Baseball, We Heart Dirty Uniforms, No Greenies, No Whammies Award

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

...presented by Tom Verydouchey

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

Except for AL Cy Young this has to be one of the tightest award years ever. Really any of the top two or three here could be switched around (esp. the ROYs and MVPs) and you could make a good argument for them. [deleted Alex's ballot, just send it to gear, duder]

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Actually I just checked the stats for this month and I've decided that Ramirez and Uggla should switch spots.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

email your ballots and keep it secret! yeah this is gonna be tight, yo

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

Ballots due on the last day of the regular season?

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

let's say...oct 6?

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

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― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

Ack. Oh not it's gone. I didn't put it anywhere! Did you copy it down, gear?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

oh shit, no i didn't. sorry! btw you can vote for up to ten each, so go nuts if you want. if there's enough votes i'll reveal the top ten, otherwise it's the top 5.

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

haha, Alex just go back to Baseball Prospectus and sort by VORP like you did anyway.

;-P

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

you can't fool steve shasta (who's also going to incorporate win shares, RARP, and clutchijeterness).

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

i was hoping this was more about us giving awards to each other!

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

"haha, Alex just go back to Baseball Prospectus and sort by VORP like you did anyway"

HAHA hey I made some non-stats based decisions. ;)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

Wait no I didn't.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

Also you can't sort by WARP1 which hurts.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand the whole 14 points for 1st and 1 for 10th if there are only ten players.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand the email thing.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

14, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Poster Most Deserving of Wider Recognition: NoTimeBeforeTime

Poster Most Likely to Succeed: polyphonic

Funniest Poster: Alex in SF

Cutest Couple: Dr. Morbius and hstencil

Best-looking Poster: gear

Most Personality ILBB Poster: Steve Shasta

Most Texan Poster: jqhiggins

Most Baltimorian Poster: jblount

Most Georgian Poster: boldbury

Most American Poster: Thermo Thinwall

Poster with Most Room for Improvement: c('°c)

― c('°c) (Leee), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

I AM SOMEBODY!

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

ILB TOP TWENTY

20. mookieproof

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

19. Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand the whole 14 points for 1st and 1 for 10th if there are only ten players.

I am a dumb son of a bitch sometimes.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

18. mr. brojangles

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

17 jblount

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

16. c('°c)

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

15. jimmy mod

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

14. g00blar

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

13. boldbury

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

12. haikunym

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

11. ade langston

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

10. gear

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

9. mattbot

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

8. earl nash

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

7. notimebeforetime

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

6. michael f gill

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

5. dr morbius

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

4. andy_k

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

3. hstencil

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

2. steve shasta

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

1. alex in sf

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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

WHATEVER

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

OUTRAGE.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 28 September 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

BAH, HUMBUGGERY

― The Bearnaise-Stain Bears (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 28 September 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

small sample size!

― jergins (jergins), Thursday, 28 September 2006 05:36 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't a ballot of ten for Cy and ROY a bit o' overkill? The Internet Baseball Awards do 5 for each of those (even with the ridiculous ROY crop in the NL this year).

Also, is there a reliable list of eligible rookies?

I like Runs Above Replacement by Position more than VORP.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

ESPN has a rookie category on their stats page; i think it's alright.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

"Also, is there a reliable list of eligible rookies?"

I just looked at the VORP for Rookie Position Players and Pitchers on BP.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

i enjoyed making my top 10 rookies way more than the mvp's.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

I think one year Prospectus had guys on their lists who were not technically rookies, however (maybe Mauer after he'd had a long September the year before?). Not that I fetishize the BBWAA standards, but I heard Buck Martinez list NL ROY candidates for 10 minutes the other night without listing a single pitcher, and if I didn't already know Buck is either perennially drunk or just inept, I'd have doubted Josh Johnson was eligible...

I would suggest waiting til Sunday eve to send yr ballot in, cuz, y'know, Brandon Webb has a start left. (and so may Carpenter)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

if anyone wants to vote for ten cy and roy candidates, it's cool but if people feel five is better go for it.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Gear can you postpone until Tuesday pretty please?

The season may not end until Monday.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

(and people have the nerve to call me out on "small sample size"... pshaw!)

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

not this upcoming monday, but the following monday is when ballots are due....

― gear (gear), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

haha i had no idea it (ie, now) was even september yet, i just figured...

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Date is just a counting stat.

― mattbot (mattbot), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

OY. I'VE BEEN PLASCHKE'D.

― Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

Reference watch:

ESPN has final season RC/27
Baseball Prospectus has VORP only through 9/30
The Hardball Times only has Win Shares and PRC through 9/14-9/21.

Any other stat references are you guys looking at?

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 2 October 2006 10:19 (nineteen years ago)

Uh, I'm sure they'll all update through the end of the season by next Monday.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 2 October 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

would it be gauche to start an NL MVP Howard or Pujols thread? better to wait until we're nearer the actual vote?

― chakra khan chakra khan (sanskrit), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

I have one of those two guys ... fourth.

Playoff focus before meaningless hardware!

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

morbs' ballot?

pujols
beltran
berkman
howard?

― gear (gear), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Morbs' ballot:

David Wright's ass
Kyle Farnsworth's ass
Huston Street's ass
Albert Pujols

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Are you saying that Albert Pujols doesn't have a nice ass?

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Yer funny, like Rep. Foley's IMs. (Also, Wright fell off my ballot with his second-half swoon.)

I also envision a thread Why Justin Morneau Is the 3rd-Most Valuable Twin. (And it's not because Joe Mauer has a splendid ass.)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe that should have read "Albert's Pujols".

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

one week from now the ballots are due in. vote early and often! remember what's important:

stats = 16%
scrap = 25%
white+slow+rbi = 37%
intangibles = 32% (an extra 10% to boost the total to the appropriate number)

[email protected]

― gear (gear), Monday, 2 October 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

is Veteran Presence part of intangibles?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

Roughly 1/6th of the 32%.

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

clutchyness makes up the remainder, i'd imagine.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

POISE in pitchers

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

Anybody else notice that neither Webb nor Carpenter were at the top of the league in any of the big SABR-stats?

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

Tempted to give it to the pitcher who had nearly a quarter of his team's wins and 6% of its many, many losses.

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Webb and Carpenter are razorthin close to Oswalt in VORP, isn't that a "big-SABR stat"? or do you mean just not first?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

uh, i think you also have to give big ups to veteran leadership and generators of clubhouse chemistry.

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

btw, Internet Baseball Awards here:

http://baseballprospectus.com/iba/

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 October 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

just a friendly reminder, get 'em in by tomorrow!

― gear (gear), Sunday, 8 October 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

bump

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Please leave voting open for a few hours! I'm working on my ballot NOW!

― c('°c) (Leee), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

ok!

― gear (gear), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

hurry though, i want to roll out today

― gear (gear), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

My ballot (such as it is) is in!

― c('°c) (Leee), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

ballots closed, thank you! results to come shortly

― gear (gear), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

THIS IS THE LAST DAY to vote in the Internet Baseball Awards!!!

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/iba/

Important note: If you submitted a ballot in the Internet Baseball Awards prior to Tuesday, October 3 at 11 p.m. ET, we need you to vote again. Thanks, and we apologize for the inconvenience.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Voting in the ILB awards made it very easy to re-vote in the IBA's.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

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