2011 NLDS: Cardinals vs. Phillies

Gm 1	STL @ PHI	Sat	Oct. 1	5:07 PM	TBS
Gm 2	STL @ PHI	Sun	Oct. 2	8:07 PM	TBS
Gm 3	PHI @ STL	Tue	Oct. 4	TBD	TBS
Gm 4*	PHI @ STL	Wed	Oct. 5	TBD	TBS
Gm 5*	STL @ PHI	Fri	Oct. 7	TBD	TBS

the enemy of my enemy is my friend, go Redbirds

phillies in 3, but i really hope not

Rooting Cards, but can't bring myself to say what I expect will happen here.

echoing everyone

phillies in 4? stl is easily the weakest team in the nl playoffs (maybe the whole thing?) with the other 3 looking pretty decent to great..

phils in 3

stl is easily the weakest team in the nl playoffs

Like they were in 2006.

phillies in 4

Fils in phive.

Pin3

Phillies in 4.

Regular season results:

St. Louis 6, Phillies 3

Did you watch the last series between them? I didn't recognize half of the Phillies starting lineup.

I think Mayberry Jr. was batting cleanup.

Phillies in four. Rooting for the Cardinals.

Phi in 3

Phillies in 4.

Phillies in 4.

Phillies in four

Doctober 1st! Let's do this!!!

shit, no Holliday

my worst nightmare

whoa

FUCK YEAH, LET'S DO THIS!

Doc Rocked

Berkman sending Halladay to Heartbreak Hotel

berkmang :D

comes back with a characteristically great AB though

i think you could call that pitch ... *removes sunglasses* ... medical malpratice YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

phillies aren't going to have the luxury of not scoring runs this game. offense is going to have to show up.

at least the Cards are only sending Lohse out there

>>>ground ball outs<<<

lohse last 5 starts: 3-0 1.72 era

lol wow freese what a non-athlete - that is not a difficult catch to make

OH YMOEGAMODFMFOSAMDFOMASDNMFAISNFMOAPSDJFOASDJMFOPADMSFPOJASDPOVJASDOPMV

ryan fucking howard

IBANEZ!!!!!!

the way halladay's settled in, that's ballgame

typed that before ibanez. game over

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_OJLn55Em6WE/S_Pzj8PGfdI/AAAAAAAAEzw/zYHgOPzHP7c/s1600/ibanez.jpg

even though I haven't watched a philly game all season here is where I make fun of anyone from st louis

http://mobilwi.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a6dde087970b0153903b9ffa970b-800wi

lol halladay got a hit

...why is chase utley bunting

may this merciless abuse of the cardinals continue

http://espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2011/story/_/id/7040476/2011-nlds-st-louis-philadelphia-mayors-friendly-bet-series

most lopsided bet ever

I mean does philadelphia even have one good brewery

any ones of our microbreweries is better than fucking budweiser

suck it phillytards

of course now we're uncomfortably close to the cards in the WS which is nagl

LOSSTOBER

DOC SHOCKED, KNOCKED IN LOSS

hoping the brew crew will win the '82 series rematch

i admit, it would be nice to see the Brewers go back to the Series. cold consolation, maybe.

(and nothing against the Cardinals -- really, who could hate the Cardinals? that would be like hating puppies!)

Oh, I'm rooting for MIL to feast on puppy tartare.

i think you knew the Cards were going to take it when a squirrel showed up pre-game and the cameras caught it.

gtfo short series crybabies, win it if you are so awesome or go suck on bud selig's withered scrotum

eh playoffs r dumb but for the most part they are what they are

"eh playoffs are dumb"

-- every yankees & phillies fan itt

every team i wanted to win in the first round did except for the rays and i don't even dislike the rangers i just thought the rays bandwagon was a little more shiny

i really feel for Phillies fans, they should have won the World Series this year.

JOY

When have the league overdogs both been bounced in the Division Series?

(wakes for jaymc to wake up)

i don't think either team (particularly the phillies against the cards) quite deserved their fate

both stys of fans deserve it, so there's that.

Ryan Howard ruptured his Achilles. Out for 2012.

what a way to end the season

goddamnit

Congratulations to the Phillies for racking up the highest winning percentage and run differential (and payroll) of the National League (just like the Yankees in the other league). There should be some consolation in that.

No one here picked the Cardinals.

well bud selig, you made your bed NOW SLEEP IN IT!!

imagine if Howard had laced a would be double and fallen like that

Playoffs are dumb? Are you suggesting they go back to how it was in 1968, one league winner and straight to the World Series (which was fine when you had eight- and ten-team leagues), or that there be no postseason at all? If you're just pointing out that what would appear to be the best teams don't always win, well, yes--that's what makes the postseason compelling. Dumb, I don't get.

it's okay phillies fans at least we still have the eagles

On a related note, points #2 and #3:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/tom_verducci/10/08/five-cuts/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a2

wait... there's no way that howard is out for the entire 2012 season?

Look at what that Achilles has to support.

When Howard made the last out, the place let loose with boos. It was a Philadelphia's cover version of the angry serenade Yankees fans gave to their team and their highest-paid star, Alex Rodriguez.

Like I was sayin'... the bad guys got screwed. Dance!

The Phillies were the best team in baseball this year. They had an historic pitching staff.

Verduch: no, no, and you don't use "an" there.

i didn't see the game/haven't seen the highlights yet but hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahaha @ phillies fans booing ryan howard as he lays crumpled on the ground with a blown out ACL

Ryan Howard ruptured his Achilles. Out for 2012.

BeeOK, what was your source for this?

topping [sic] booing Mike Schmidt & Santa Claus?

No one here picked the Cardinals.

― A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K)

depends how you interpret this 'picking' crap

really, even I don't think the Mets were better than the Orioles in '69 or the Reds in '73. Maybe we should stop after the reg season for 'justice' to prevail....

You don't think the Phillies had a/an historic pitching staff? Or at the very least, a/an historic front three (or all five starters)? Outside of Halladay I'm completely indifferent to the team, and I'd concede that point.

yeah I think that pitching staff was pretty historic, but wtf @ Phillies fans for booing Ryan Howard, you guys don't deserve anything

They had an historic pitching staff.

The Phillies had the lowest team ERA but were third in strikeouts and didn't have the lowest BAA, either. You need more than that to be historic, right? Or is he referring to the talent of the rotation?

I don't know what his barometer is, but I quickly checked the total WAR for Halladay/Lee/Hamels against Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz in '95, and the Phillies were higher. And no one in the Phillies front five was lower than 1.7--I don't know how many teams you could find with a front five where that's true. (Listen to me, Mr. WAR.) I don't know...to get a little more old-school, they felt historic to me.

the thing about this phillies staff is that this is prob the best that they're going to be -- first of all they were all pretty much healthy this year, secondly altho doc, lee and hamels might repeat their years next season, it's highly doubtful that worley or even oswalt will be better

also if you're going by WAR, the 03 yankees & 02 d backs staffs both were equal, and the 97 braves were better

not that i necessarily disagree w/ you clemenza, just saying

Not that it matters, but by my calculations--I'm using Baseball Reference--all the teams you mentioned had a WAR from their front three of less than the Phillies' 19.6 this year. (The '02 Diamondbacks were basically Ruth, Gehrig, and three mediocrities.) I'm sure you can find some front threes that topped the Phillies, though. But I do think it would be hard to find a rotation five-deep where the fifth starter was as good as Worley.

The '98 Braves are an interesting comparison. Their front five went 18-9, 20-6, 16-11, 17-8, and 17-3; three had ERAs under 3.00, one in the mid-3.00s, and one slightly above 4.00. (This was the McGwire/Sosa year.) Whether you do top three (19-6 > 13.7), top four (21.3 > 14.3), or top five (24.1 > 17.5), though--the order based on number of starts--the Phillies always beat them in WAR. And the '98 Braves were ESPN's pick a few years ago as the greatest rotation ever.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=list/greatestrotations

(One thing you can say about the '98 Braves that I'm pretty sure won't be true of this year's Phillies is that they had three Hall of Famers starting--two for sure, and very likely Smoltz too.)

When have the league overdogs both been bounced in the Division Series?

(wakes for jaymc to wake up)

I actually saw this q last night, lol.

Last time it happened was only three years ago: Cubs and Angels had best-in-league records.

Also happened in 2002 to the Braves and Yankees, and in 2000 to the Giants and White Sox.

huh - i had zero recollection of the Cubs ever doing that well!

Isn't Oswalt a free agent after this year? Not sure what kind of contract he'll want, but letting him walk and going with Lee/Doc/Hamels/Worley should be plenty good enough to keep them competitive. They've got to save money somewhere -- Howard's extension starts next year! Their lineup needs an overhaul though, they're too old and slump-prone.

Ryan Howard ruptured his Achilles. Out for 2012.

Should give a source when no one else has definitively said this.

i found that info somewhere on line last night, should have linked it then. it does look like he will be out until June however.

http://www.rantsports.com/philadelphia-phillies/2011/10/08/report-phillies-first-baseman-ryan-howard-has-torn-achilles-tendon-out-until-at-least-may-or-june/

what the fuck is rantsports.com

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