Tried a few search terms and couldn't find a thread...People sometimes call attention to great pitching match-ups elsewhere; that's the purpose of this thread. For me, it should involve two starters who are either a) established stars pitching up to or close to their career norms, or b) a less than established star having a fantastic year (i.e., Lance Lynn this year). I don't know--I'm guessing most nights there's one, you don't often see two, and some nights there aren't any. Tonight: CC vs. David Price. I know CC's ERA is a little higher than normal right now, but his peripherals are good, and--thought-crime!--he's on target for 20 wins. Price continues to be one of the best starters in baseball.
― clemenza, Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
kind of a draw, in regards to pitching lines...Price: 5 IP, 8k, 4BB, 3H, 1 ERSabatia: 7 IP, 12K, 1BB, 7H, 3ER (+2 unearned)
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 8 June 2012 02:33 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I noticed that Sabathia's line was actually pretty good, especially the K/BB. Higher game score?
― clemenza, Friday, 8 June 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
If my calculations are right, Price = 61, Sabathia = 58. So: close, but no.
― clemenza, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:00 (eleven years ago) link
Tonight: Mets v. Nats. Dickey v. Wang.
― wmlynch, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:49 (eleven years ago) link
Good "traded for each other" game going on with Parker v. Cahill
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 10 June 2012 03:04 (eleven years ago) link
hector noesi v jason marquis
see what i did there
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
Price-Dickey tonight is p good
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
price has fallen apart since the 4th inning
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link
Second-guessing, but, based on this season, I should have flagged Lynn-Peavy tonight; Lynn won 1-0, with a game score of 81.
― clemenza, Thursday, 14 June 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
Whoah--Dickey's GS was 96 tonight.
― clemenza, Thursday, 14 June 2012 03:05 (eleven years ago) link
sale v kershaw
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 16 June 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
Missed Verlander-Lynn tonight. Verlander's got an early lead. (Two weeks ago, Dickey was a punchline on the Marquee match-ups thread.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
1) David Price - Cole Hamels2) overweight plodder - aging knuckleballer
― clemenza, Sunday, 24 June 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link
I'll take door #2, Monty.
― Biff Wellington (WmC), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
assuming I get in from Iowa on time, J0rdan and I should be seeing Sale vs Oswalt on the South Side Tuesday night.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 30 June 2012 13:09 (eleven years ago) link
Saw Volquez vs. Latos tonight - top notch.
― timellison, Friday, 6 July 2012 06:24 (eleven years ago) link
will put on Yu v Sale now
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
well 4-3 in the 2nd, so much for that
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
Hamels v Sheets is close, but Cole's thrown more balls than strikes at this point.
― Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:51 (eleven years ago) link
trying to root for Philths this weekend, not easy
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
:O
― Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
Kershaw-Vogelsong should be good. I missed the obvious limitation of this thread when I opened it up: it's the same 12-15 names shuffled around.
― clemenza, Sunday, 29 July 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
Halladay-Hudson could go anywhere.
― Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
u forgot that the Philthies are in total punkass mode.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
Which of the three words in "could go anywhere" didn't you read?
― Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Sunday, 29 July 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
Hard to get a more statistically even match-up in the most basic columns than Bumgarner vs. Kershaw:
ERA -- 2.97 (B) / 2.90 (K)IP -- 164 (B) / 171 (K)H/9 -- 7.4 (B) / 6.9 (K)K/BB -- 4.7 (B) / 3.9 (K)W/L% -- .650 (B) / .647 (K)
And they have identical WHIPs of 1.014.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
who wouldve thunk - david price vs.............luke hochevar
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 01:35 (eleven years ago) link
... and the mighty Royals come out on top!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link
Cueto/Miley = Cy Young/ROY?
― clemenza, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
It was a good matchup. Johnny Cueto pretty much did what he has done all year. Cueto is so much more efficient than he was in past years and seems to have another gear he can get into later in the game. He was filthy in his last inning which was the 7th.
Wade Miley pitched a pretty good game. He works really fast and throws strikes. I don't know if it is his motion, but there is something about his motion that seems to confuse hitters on where the pitch is going to be located. He got quite few swings and misses for a guy that tops out around 91-92. Really just gave up some singles and lost one run on an error by the D-back shortstop. Chris Welsh was impressed stating he reminded him quite a bit of former Red left-hander Tom Browning.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 04:36 (eleven years ago) link
Verlander-Sale, a game separating their teams at the top; best match-up since Dickey-Sabathia a couple of months ago.
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 September 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
If you were watching the ESPN broadcast, you caught an amazing statistic: other teams are hitting .131 against Verlander after he passes 100 pitches. (Not that small a sample, either, seeing as he's exceeded 100 every start this year.)
― clemenza, Monday, 3 September 2012 03:24 (eleven years ago) link
Hell of a dugout tantrum from Sale. He looked psychopathic after he gave up that HR to Delmon Young.
― Andy K, Monday, 3 September 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
Verlander-Sale again
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 September 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
Rained out
― Andy K, Friday, 14 September 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
Verlander and Sale ended up crushing the Twins and Indians (no runs allowed by either) instead of facing each other ... too bad.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 15 September 2012 05:40 (eleven years ago) link
Verlander/Anderson (on ESPN tonight) qualifies, right?
― Andy K, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
The best starter in the NL is going tonight, if anyone's interested. vs. Josh Johnson, but still.
― The Jesus and Mary Lizard (WmC), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
I had to think for 30 seconds on who Anderson is.
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
"Mister Anderson"
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
Darvish-Greinke in a few
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
Scherzer-Harvey on TV today.
― clemenza, Saturday, 24 August 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
Aargh--looking forward to Scherzer/Harvey/Cabrera all day, I've got the Red Sox-Dodgers instead. I guess the reasoning is that the Jays are actively pursuing the Red Sox for a divisional crown.
― clemenza, Saturday, 24 August 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
scherzer!
― mookieproof, Saturday, 24 August 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
through four:
harvey 8 H, 2 Kscherzer 1 H, 8 K
― mookieproof, Saturday, 24 August 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
two pretty good rookies about to get going, Fernandez vs. Teheran
― cops on horse (WilliamC), Friday, 30 August 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link
Good call--lead story on cnnsi.com this morning.
http://mlb.si.com/2013/08/31/mariners-taijuan-walker-wins-debut/?sct=mlb_t11_a2
― clemenza, Saturday, 31 August 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
Didn't realize it was Scherzer-Sale tonight.
― clemenza, Monday, 9 September 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link
Cliff Lee vs. Kris Medlen right now is a real beauty. Scoreless, 3 hits total, 11 Ks for Lee and Medlen just gave up his first hit in the 6th.
― cops on horse (WilliamC), Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:05 (ten years ago) link
always a race btwn me & clem to see who revives their marquee thread
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 August 2016 00:25 (seven years ago) link
Kershaw-Scherzer must rank up near the top of post-season match-ups historically.
― clemenza, Friday, 7 October 2016 12:25 (seven years ago) link
This is a rout again rofl
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 October 2016 12:37 (seven years ago) link
let's call it Bumgarner vs Naked Bum of Death
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 02:03 (seven years ago) link
Kershaw-Greinke for the first time ever. (That didn't seem right--thought they matched up at least once last year--but I checked and it is.)
― clemenza, Friday, 14 April 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link
wachatanaka
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― mookieproof, Friday, 14 April 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Frank_Zappa_-_Waka-Jawaka.jpg
― mookieproof, Friday, 14 April 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link
ah missed the hypen in the title
― k3vin k., Saturday, 15 April 2017 03:10 (six years ago) link
Verlander-Kluber today.
― clemenza, Saturday, 15 April 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link
So much for that.
― Andy K, Saturday, 15 April 2017 23:33 (six years ago) link
You got an old man match up tonight in Chicago with 40 year old Bronson Arroyo going for the Reds against 38 year old John Lackey against the Cubs. I'm sure Arroyo will be doing high kicks and Lackey will be complaining about strikes. Reds won the first match up in Cincy back in April between these two.
Couldn't find it, but that might have been the first time they faced off.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link
kershaw/lynn tonight has been great
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 24 May 2017 03:57 (six years ago) link
matt carpenter's year has been weirdly good
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 24 May 2017 04:06 (six years ago) link
keuchel v darvish
― johnny crunch, Friday, 2 June 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link
scherzer v arrieta, first matchup of previous two cy young winners since 2008
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
sure looks like Arrieta's days as an ace are numbered
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 01:09 (six years ago) link
Scherzer-Carlos Martinez.
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 July 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
lots of good pitchers going today
― k3vin k., Sunday, 2 July 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
including the are-they-still-good triumvirate of arrieta, verlander, and quintana
arrieta was good today
― na (NA), Sunday, 2 July 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link
yeah he looked solid, effective but not dominant
― k3vin k., Sunday, 2 July 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link
verlander somewhat less so
― mookieproof, Sunday, 2 July 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link
scherzer has 5 strikeouts through 6, and this cardinals lineup is due for a complete embarrassing implosion so i'd expect several more
― Karl Malone, Monday, 3 July 2017 00:41 (six years ago) link
Sale-Sabathia. More like a marquees-passing-in-the-night match-up. And they have the same initials. At least I think they do--I'm not sure.
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 August 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link
I was looking at the Red Sox schedule to gauge if I'm going to see Sale, and it looks good; he's scheduled to go on Tuesday, Aug. 29, and I'm down there on the 28/29/30.
Also noticed how close a Sale/Kluber match-up this Thursday is; it would require a Cleveland rainout or, as a gift to the world, holding back Kluber an extra day.
― clemenza, Sunday, 20 August 2017 14:34 (six years ago) link
Greinke-Bumgarner...who still looks marquee to me, abbreviated season and terrible team aside.
― clemenza, Saturday, 16 September 2017 14:00 (six years ago) link
Severino-Price? Price is having a pretty good year--probably not marquee-level anymore, though.
― clemenza, Sunday, 1 July 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
Kluber/Seve--never mind.
― clemenza, Friday, 13 July 2018 05:03 (five years ago) link
against all odds, scherzer/hamels is a good battle so far
― na (NA), Monday, 13 August 2018 01:21 (five years ago) link
Kershaw-Bumgarner tonight (almost nostalgic)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 August 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
Need David Letterman: Noah, Nola; Nola, Noah.
― clemenza, Friday, 17 August 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link
Scherzer-Nola tonight
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link
scherzer with 83 pitches through four innings -- 24 of them fouled off
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 00:41 (five years ago) link
lol Neshek
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 02:12 (five years ago) link
lester and nola dueling rn
― na (NA), Sunday, 2 September 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link
deGrom-Sale scheduled for Sunday at Fenway. (tho i guess Sale will go 2 innings)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link
3-4 innings, Sox say
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link
Besides the Sale-deGrom partial match-up, there's Verlander/Greinke.
― clemenza, Sunday, 16 September 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link
Kershaw-Freeland.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 15:11 (five years ago) link
Scherzer-deGrom; definite Cy Young implications.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 23:59 (four years ago) link
Freeland? I should stick with actual marquee match-ups.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 00:00 (four years ago) link
Well played, Hyun-jin Ryu.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:49 (four years ago) link
Scherzer-Verlander! I rarely root against either of them, but I want the Astros to win 1-0 tonight. (The game is free on mlb.com.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 18:23 (six months ago) link
I want anyone but the Astros to win.
I have to admit, I have been very impressed with Altuve lately.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 18:25 (six months ago) link
Realistically, I think any Jays fan assumes Texas will be easier to stay ahead of.
How's this for complicated wording?
Justin Verlander & Max Scherzer will be the 1st former Cy Young winners to be teammates earlier in a season and THEN face each other later in that season, with both pitching for different teams than where they were teammatesh/t @EliasSports pic.twitter.com/M86VZcw9tm— Sarah Langs (@SlangsOnSports) September 6, 2023
― clemenza, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 18:27 (six months ago) link
I'm not sure the last bit is even necessary--I would think "1st former Cy Young winners to be teammates earlier in a season and THEN face each other later in that season" would be enough.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 18:28 (six months ago) link
So much for that--Scherzer's getting hammered.
― clemenza, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:54 (six months ago) link
from reddit:
This was the 19th straight Rangers game without a starting pitcher W. The last time their starter recorded a win was August 15.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 7 September 2023 03:04 (six months ago) link
Cole vs Burnes yesterday did not disappoint.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 11 September 2023 09:18 (six months ago) link
Verlander-Castillo, and two nose-diving teams trying to hang on.
― clemenza, Monday, 25 September 2023 21:55 (six months ago) link