The pattern I have generally seen is someone will make some "problematic" post, then an "educator" will step in and insist that they need to make it clear why the post is problematic, and they're right but usually do so in an extremely OTT and hand-wringy way, then they either mention their paypal account or one of their friends will say something like "Thank you so much, can I please send you some money for doing the emotional labor of educated everyone here?"
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link
I've seen everything you describe up until the Paypal part.
― Evan, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
My sweet christ
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
some colleagues in my field who do a lot of social justice work often complain about conference invites & speakerships & the "emotional labor" required to speak on these topics esp for white audiences and i understand the desire not to be tokenized as a "diversity speaker" but on the other hand you are getting recognition and people are interested in hearing you speak and want to learn from you! most people in our field are not getting that attention
― marcos, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
one person in particular tweets about this all the time and it ends up just looking like a humble brag
― marcos, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
How do become an "educator"
― brimstead, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
set up a paypal account obvs
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
The iteration of this I saw recently was where a kind of dumb and naive-seeming white lady posted something about wanting to ship her used clothing to some woman in Kenya that she met through facebook. A bunch of people were already sort of gently explaining why she might be making the wrong assumptions, why used clothing is actually over-abundant in places like Kenya, etc. so it was already kind of unnecessary and then the "educator" jumped in like "I'm sorry, but I really need to explain why this is so problematic and completely erases people of color and..." etc. with all the current catchphrases and jargon. And then somewhere along the line her paypal account came up.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
the sad thing is that she's begging for money on fb when there are plenty of diversity regime positions open to applicants that pay a steady wage
― Mordy, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link
I have a friend who did this once. Seemed ridiculous but I admired the chutzpah.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
Maybe they're sensitivity readers (who sometimes get paid) who aren't getting any rough drafts sent to them.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link
This would be a good schtick for a sockpuppwr though. Posting on social justice threads and then directing other posters to their paypal account.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
what happens when the educators start getting into disagreements with each other?
no wait, that's the internet
― after "after cease to exist" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
so you guys aren't subscribed to the safety pin box then?
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
No, but I actually have two acquaintances from the neighborhood who are, who are also involved in some kind of racial justice org called SURJ, and whose walls were one of the places I first encountered these educators-for-hire. So there seems to be a nexus to all of that.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
oh yeah the white people anti-racism org. lol. such a great idea!
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link
lol, the first time I met one of the people (at a meeting where people were saying what orgs they were from, tbc) she introduced herself like this "I'm ___, I'm from SURJ, and I organize white people."
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link
i'm glad somebody's doing that, i'm a mess
― after "after cease to exist" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link
I was looking at a friend-of-friend's facebook profile after I saw she'd commented on the same post I had and was curious who she was and it was a white woman with a black husband who was posting about attending a SURJ event and I just blinked a few times and closed the browser. Still no idea how to feel
― mh, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link
haha i hate the word "educator." i'm a teacher dammit. when did that become insufficiently fancy as a name for what we do?
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link
it's pronounced "edjumicator"
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link
some people need to get teached
― Evan, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
"learnifying engineerimicator" is the current term iirc
― didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
The thinky captain
― Evan, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
― horseshoe, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 12:31 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's like 'comedian' vs 'humorist'... you know just by the title that one could be funny, while the other DEFINITELY won't be
― sleepingbag, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link
SJW Peddlerman
― sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link
I think in the past I only saw "humorist" applied to someone who worked in writing, like James Thurber
― mh, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link
It seems also like there has been a gradual shift in the meanings of humor and comedy, with the older meanings being less directly tied to "stuff that will make you laugh out loud."
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link
But still, fuck that shit, it's boring.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link
not related to uncool conservative opinions but wrt to paypal I just saw someone who tweeted a short 6-post thread on why the nyer "cat person" is a short story work of fiction and not a "piece" or an "article" after it got a little traction she said "if you are using this thread in your creative writing seminar here is my paypal link"
― marcos, Monday, 11 December 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link
niiiice
― mh, Monday, 11 December 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link
after the year where multiple idiots got famous enough via bad political ideas on twitter to live off of crowdfunding despite having backgrounds in poetry or something, I feel the door is open wide enough that anyone who gets a foothold has a fair chance of breaking through
pure american entrepreneurship is alive
― mh, Monday, 11 December 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link
when the crowdfunded liberal bubble bursts the apple podcast app will be a wasteland of abandoned podcast husks that male vitality serum companies will take over like old urls
― President Keyes, Monday, 11 December 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
i like christmas trees & christmas decorations
― marcos, Monday, 11 December 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link
Discussion of things on the internet is a bad thing
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 11 December 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
― marcos, Monday, December 11, 2017 11:32 AM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
me too. i have a gaudy decorated corner of my office cubicle and everything
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 11 December 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
markets + money are the best solution to the problem of allocating limited resources to people who don't agree on how they should be allocated
people who are critical of capitalism are often just bad at it
― the late great, Monday, 11 December 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
After discovering Lil Pump:
1) Where are this boy's parents?2) How is everybody involved with his career not being charged with Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor?3) Where is the system?
I guess I could have had the same thoughts re: Lil Wayne back in the '90s, but I was not-yet-old-enough then to have those type of thoughts.
― naus, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 07:07 (six years ago) link
Poor Lil Pump. Another aspiring young artist cut down by the scourge of fentanyl. Will his senseless death finally be what it takes to spur us to action. Thoughts and... Wait, what's that you say? Wrong guy? They made another one?
― how's life, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 10:27 (six years ago) link
I believe Juanita Broadderick 100% and the people on the left who see complications there are fucking cowardly enablers
― President Keyes, Sunday, 17 December 2017 02:02 (six years ago) link
your mom is hot
― The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Sunday, 17 December 2017 02:16 (six years ago) link
― the late great, Monday, December 11, 2017 7:54 PM (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
these i both totally agree with fwiw but i don't think they're actually conservative! lol
― The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Sunday, 17 December 2017 02:17 (six years ago) link
it's cool that the only 2 good ilx threads this year are 'Post a controvesial opinion' and this one imo
― flopson, Sunday, 17 December 2017 03:48 (six years ago) link
my conservative belief is that this thread is actually bad
― Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Sunday, 17 December 2017 03:49 (six years ago) link
that's a sign that it is good
― flopson, Sunday, 17 December 2017 03:52 (six years ago) link
― The times they are a changing, perhaps (map)
the true conservative belief is "your 12 year old daughter is hot"
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 17 December 2017 03:52 (six years ago) link
rolling explaining conservatism however, is bad
― flopson, Saturday, December 16, 2017 9:52 PM (thirty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
reflexive counterintuition is the most conservative thing itt
― Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Sunday, 17 December 2017 03:53 (six years ago) link
nothing conservative about challops
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 17 December 2017 04:18 (six years ago) link
Flopsotm
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 December 2017 11:49 (six years ago) link