nothing conservative about challops
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 17 December 2017 04:18 (six years ago) link
Flopsotm
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 December 2017 11:49 (six years ago) link
this thread is good but it's bad for you like eclairs
― Mordy, Sunday, 17 December 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link
some foods are just better with butter, and attempts to equate "contemporary" culinary attempts using butter substitutes to the deliciousness of the butter-y versions feel like a misuse of affirmative action
― sarahell, Saturday, 23 December 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link
insert "cultured" butter pun
― the late great, Saturday, 23 December 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link
people who are critical of capitalism are often just bad at it
― the late great, Monday, December 11, 2017 7:54 PM
bro didn't you have a trust fund
― clouds, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link
a trust fund is for sure the best way to be good at capitalism
― Mordy, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link
So if I'm "bad" at "Capitalism" I'm just SOL basically?
― brimstead, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link
lol i have no trust fund, not sure where you got that idea
― the late great, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link
you’re not SOL brimstead, have a growth mindset, get better at it
― the late great, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
There's other things you can do but whinging that capitalism doesn't suit u is prob not one of the most constructive of those things
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link
god will you stop advocating armed insurrection?
― a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6dje_kMZZJc/Vk3v8TsBJlI/AAAAAAABBps/3X6psYJn4Uw/s400/vikingkittens.JPG
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link
v few ppl really take part in capitalism in a way which cld be assessed, unless you count that itself as being bad at capitalism, which is imo unsound
― ogmor, Thursday, 28 December 2017 01:14 (six years ago) link
I aM bAd at cApiTaliSM
― Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 28 December 2017 03:43 (six years ago) link
I prefer being bad at basketball to being bad at capitalism cos then all that happens is I miss wide open jumpers instead of winding up bankrupt
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 December 2017 04:41 (six years ago) link
b-b-b-but what about yr jump shot!?!?!
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 28 December 2017 05:05 (six years ago) link
I'll just be an enforcer and foul Durant 6 times a game
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 December 2017 05:20 (six years ago) link
cool, here's 3.7 mill per year for you
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 28 December 2017 05:25 (six years ago) link
that's it? fuck it I'm going into hedge funds
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 December 2017 05:36 (six years ago) link
into hedge funds vs into geodes
― Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 28 December 2017 11:24 (six years ago) link
I hate the word empathy. Especially when it is used by social justice oriented k-12 educators, as in, “schools should teach kids empathy,” as if this alone would be enough to teach them moral reasoning. Empathy is a totally subjective and even narcissistic basis for morality. The idea is that you should care about someone because you also can understand and feel their pain, not because they just are a person with equal rights and dignity.
― treeship 2, Friday, 29 December 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
The general principle of trying to see things from other people’s perspectives is A+ classic, but the term “empathy” has taken on a weird sanctimoniousness. I also think it shouldn’t be conflated with morality because it doesn’t necedsarily lead one to make better decisions.
― treeship 2, Friday, 29 December 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link
Also rightly or wrongly I associate the term with teachers who idly speculate that disruptive students are sociopaths.
― treeship 2, Friday, 29 December 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link
This made me remember that I had a teacher in HS that gave us 5 extra points on any test as long as we wrong the definition of empathy at the bottom of it. He was big into the empathy.
― Jeff, Friday, 29 December 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link
it's weird how quickly empathy for people who annoy us evaporates
― a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 December 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
Yeah it appeals to a certain kind of soft authoritarian teacher. It’s not enough for the kids to do the right things; they have to feel the right way about it.
n.b. I couldn’t cut it as an educator in a high needs school and left the profession so my ideas on this topic shouldn’t be yaken too seriously.
― treeship 2, Friday, 29 December 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link
xp Jeffrey
ha I would go the other way and say morality is the more troubling sanctimonious term and empathy is all you need, but I get what you're saying & writing ppl off as sociopaths is ofc not all that empathetic
― ogmor, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link
imho people should be taught morality and empathy as concepts in the same way they are taught logic and the water cycle. the social contract, government and economics, and basic games stem from that, history is the evidence base, and by age 19 people should be able to explain in multiple ways why mutually assured destruction didn’t come to pass
― El Tomboto, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link
tbf have u ever truly have an h.o.? i say this as someone who similarly never has so no judgement.
― Mordy, Friday, 29 December 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
h.o.?
― .oO (silby), Friday, 29 December 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
why is teaching morality and empathy an uncool conservative opinion?
those are good things to teach children
― infinity (∞), Friday, 29 December 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link
Toms had lots of h.oes iirv
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 December 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link
Iirc
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 December 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link
if I rephrase vulgarly
― Frederik B, Friday, 29 December 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link
U say tom@hoes
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Friday, 29 December 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
luv2tom8hoes
― a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 December 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link
Empathy is a totally subjective and even narcissistic basis for morality. The idea is that you should care about someone because you also can understand and feel their pain, not because they just are a person with equal rights and dignity.
― treeship 2, Friday, December 29, 2017 8:29 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sorry but this is so fucking dumb i can't even
― brimstead, Friday, 29 December 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link
or maybe you just need a dictionary
wow that's extremely harsh that someone has a slightly different opinion from your superficial ad hoc social media mediated opinions on life
― Mordy, Friday, 29 December 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link
like he's just arguing deontology there over intimate affective association but i guess he needs a dictionary bc clearly he's a moron
― Mordy, Friday, 29 December 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
Conflating sympathy with empathy is sloppy.
Wanting others not to suffer is part of basic decency and kindness. Feeling concerned or sad about another's suffering is sympathy (feeling for, as opposed to feeling with).
Empathy means to suffer along with them, to literally feel their pain.
― twas in the fleek midwinter (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 29 December 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link
i'm seeing a guy about my deontology next week, gotta get a cavity filled
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 29 December 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link
pause
I share treeship’s discomfort with the notion of teaching empathy. Not because it’s not valuable but because I’m not sure it can be taught. The move in education toward teaching it seems ill-grounded to me.I don’t know any teachers who believe it is important to teach empathy who idly speculate that their disruptive students are sociopaths. I don’t think I recognize the kind of teacher you’re talking about there, treeship.
― horseshoe, Friday, 29 December 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
imo one way people learn empathy is through art
― flopson, Friday, 29 December 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link
― Mordy, Friday, December 29, 2017 11:49 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you're talking to treeship2 here, right?
― brimstead, Friday, 29 December 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link
and duh it was meant to be extremely harsh
lol @ social media mediated, though, not sure what that's about
― brimstead, Friday, 29 December 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link
i don't know what deontology means, i mean obviously i'm completely full of crap here dude c'mon now..
― brimstead, Friday, 29 December 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link