i am responsible for lots of things that happen to other people (sort of, as long as you don't pull at 'responsibility' too hard). i think lots of people do not accept things that happen to them and some of them do so v effectively (cf. all that gumph about how a certain degree of paranoia about outside forces can leave your ego/optimism in tact).
― ogmor, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 15:17 (six years ago) link
seems awfully judgemental to call it haughty deems, if you constituted a more significant proportion of humankind I'd be offended by such posing
― ogmor, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 15:19 (six years ago) link
But luckily, eh
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 15:21 (six years ago) link
pose away in blessed irrelevance, my sweet prince
― ogmor, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 15:23 (six years ago) link
*nods*
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link
I saw “call me by your name” and thought it was movingand that the younger actor delivered an incredible performance BUT i also felt that the relationship was inappropriate given the gap in the characters’ ages/life experience.
― treeship 2, Tuesday, January 16, 2018 11:07 PM (yesterday
finding such a relationship inappropriate is anything but conservative
I haven't seen the movie, so I can't comment specifically, but my uncool conservative belief is that I think judging individual relationships from this standpoint is inappropriate, and arrogant. I think that disparities in age/income/etc can complicate relationships, and from a zoomed-out, societal perspective they can tell us a lot about unhealthy tendencies and what we value, but I don't believe it is my place to judge an individual relationship unless I know the people personally. I think any two people can love each other
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:56 (six years ago) link
Timothy Chalment did such a good job conveying the vulnerability and uncertainty of adolescence that his character “read” in some ways as younger than 17, which sparked my discomfort, which was really just that, not some kind of edict I passed on the film. I felt uncool and conservative for feeling like that bc the person I saw the film with unreservedly loved it. (I loved it too actually — an amazing cinematic portrayal of desire, vulnerability, coming of age, beautifully shot, etc) but still there was this lingering discomfort about the age thing.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:01 (six years ago) link
a friend and a cousin of mine, both in their 30s, died of opioid overdoses in november. i don't see a reason to think that they were victims of anything other than the decisions they made. i feel uncool in this thought.
― Yelploaf
most people die of opioid overdoses because due to prohibition they have no idea what's in their drugs and what strength they are. we could as a society easily treat addiction as a public health issue instead of a crime issue, we don't, so lots of people die needlessly.
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link
and addiction isn't a choice
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link
When you live with addicts or love them it’s really hard not to be furious with them though.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link
oh yeah i know that haha.
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link
from an economic perspective it seems kind of neoliberal, in that it's got these implicit assumptions about the inherent dignity of wage labour
when people say stuff like that, what kind of labour are they thinking of, as like the alternative to wage labour?
― flopson, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link
UBI, presumably
― Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:33 (six years ago) link
feudal labour? slave labour?
― hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link
not defending this thought just guessing
professional labour or domestic labour also not considered in the same way
― hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link
wiki has something on it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_labour
In modern mixed economies such as those of the OECD countries, it is currently the most common form of work arrangement. Although most labour is organised as per this structure, the wage work arrangements of CEOs, professional employees, and professional contract workers are sometimes conflated with class assignments, so that "wage labour" is considered to apply only to unskilled, semi-skilled or manual labour. Various studies have shown that employees generally spend 1.5 to 3 hours a day on non-work related activities.[3]
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
i don't think the idea of the dignity of (wage) labour is a distinctive feature of neoliberalism at all tho
― hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link
is it the money that's icky? like, would labour exchange be ok in a pure barter economy, where i could tug you off for a loaf of bread or whatever? or is it the presence of a boss and the power dynamic implied? so independent sex workers selling labour is ok but not ones who work for someone else who deals them a cut
― flopson, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link
hand-job is at least two loaves of bread iirc
― Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link
what kind of bread are we talking about
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:53 (six years ago) link
pimpernickel
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link
Pumpernickel would have worked just fine.
― DJI, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:46 (six years ago) link
See flopson’s post
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link
I did. PUMPpernickel har har...
― DJI, Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link
You get pointsPump vs pimp is a thinker
― infinity (∞), Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:46 (six years ago) link
you hardly knew 'er!
― sarahell, Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:46 (six years ago) link
(Real talk: I almost posted "cumpernickel" but stopped myself. Unnecessarily, as it turns out. Y'all went there.)
― Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:58 (six years ago) link
Spunkernipple
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:59 (six years ago) link
LADS
― Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:00 (six years ago) link
I very often don't reveal my conservative beliefs here mainly because they're p cool imo
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:02 (six years ago) link
-teens are bad-justin trudeau is pretty good
― flopson, Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link
I would say both are good, but bad
― k3vin k., Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link
ie overall their usefulness to our worldview is positive despite the occasional and high profile drawbacks
― k3vin k., Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:45 (six years ago) link
trudeau should visit that japanese suicide forest wearing ritual seppuku attire next
― sleepingbag, Monday, 26 February 2018 04:06 (six years ago) link
-teens are bad
disagree!
the kids are alright
― the late great, Monday, 26 February 2018 04:44 (six years ago) link
I also disagree
teens are, in fact, the worst
but they keep being just a little better than the last set of teens, and/or that is an important story we have to tell ourselves to imagine any hope for our species
― El Tomboto, Monday, 26 February 2018 04:48 (six years ago) link
I thought "Trudeau is good" was just a liberal as opposed to left view, not a conservative view.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 26 February 2018 05:30 (six years ago) link
Two sides of the same coin (a loony)
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 February 2018 05:39 (six years ago) link
bc liberal party (i think flopson is referring to bc libs specifically) have quite a few former conservatives, so they're a coalition of sorts
http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/b-c-liberals-hire-12-ousted-federal-and-alberta-conservatives-which-could-give-province-a-harper-tone
they're technically centre -- to the right of ndp and left of conservatives
― bald butte (∞), Monday, 26 February 2018 06:33 (six years ago) link
lib is the new conservative
― flopson, Monday, 26 February 2018 06:38 (six years ago) link
― flopson, Sunday, February 25, 2018 10:38 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's true!
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.02/article/5a8ed9e0dda4c8045a8b457b.jpg
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link
love that image, going to sending it to friends for the next 6 months at least
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link
well you and the rest of the world according to ctv last night
― bald butte (∞), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link
Is he up for reelection at some point? Because if he were an American candidate, he'd lose the next election based on that picture alone.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:40 (six years ago) link
Unrelated, I've started to develop some conservative-ish views of the effects of the sexual revolution. Basically I think birth control and delayed (or deliberately avoided altogether) reproduction has contributed to society becoming more sexualized and more obsessed with sex, porn, kink, etc. I think our bodies/hormones are still telling us to impregnate and to be impregnated and the fact that it's not happening as much as it "should" is confusing us and causing stronger sexual impulses to kick in. I guess what makes me not a true conservative on this is that it's just a theory for me and not something I think we should enact any changes based on. Overall I think the positives of the sexual revolution vastly outweigh this.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link
oct 2019
he was already very unpopular before this incident
― bald butte (∞), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:48 (six years ago) link
but he is likely going to win
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link
i am wasteful with paper towels. i often use them instead of cloth napkins and rags. i think maybe it doesn't matter.
― marcos, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:52 (six years ago) link