i don't feel strongly about the banning and agree burrito was asking for it. but burrito has some good qualities, and any comparison to Gervais is cruel.
― bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link
reading the thread in question -- it seemed kinda a "gray area" to me, like I will hit the FP when I see fat-shaming most of the time, but ... it's kinda like going back to the Thatcher is Dead issue (from years ago) ... if a person in power is that horrible and oppressive, I feel less like policing people? But, enough other posters feel that is worth policing, so it is a relief to me (mostly in that I wouldn't want that decision to be only mine to make, because I have mixed feelings).
In other words, I'm not going to be posting the masturbating orangutan video in protest ... even though I do like burrito a lot
― sarahell, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
personal growth takes many forms
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link
well I'm not gonna activate my wonder twin powers and invoke the form of masturbating orangutan youtube
― sarahell, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link
trump's insatiable gluttony - for attention, for power, for irresponsibility and yes, for terrible fast food - is an undeniable part of what makes him such a repugnant figure. given his tremendous and misplaced vanity and loathing for anything not Maxim-approved as beauty, it's not a huge leap from there to mock him as "fat" as an easy way to hoist him by his own petard. one of the many rhetorical errors there is that playing the insult game by Trump's rules lowers you to his piggish level and unnecessarily sideswipes any number of people whose only association with this dipshit is a BMI in the same zipcode.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link
pointing out Trump's multilayered gluttony or infantile diet can be valid responses to his own attacks on other people's attitudes or his assessment of them physically. Chris Christie is not mocking anyone else for their body afaik.
― Covidiots from UHF (sic), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link
Christie made his bones mocking people, he's a vicious asshole
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link
Christie made his big bones mocking people, he's a vicious asshole― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, October 13, 2020 1:57 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, October 13, 2020 1:57 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Thoia Thoing, Maryland (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link
lollll absolute freudian slip
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link
oh shit I thought I actually wrote that
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link
you guys are absolute dorks debating the merits of punching down on this fat asshole
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExxonMobil-New_Jersey_environmental_contamination_settlement
― Thoia Thoing, Maryland (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
I think it’s important that people remember that the bans under the new rules are temporary, lasting only seven days. unperson will be unbanned tomorrow, burrito just a few days later. Nobody’s “online existence” is under threat. The rules themselves are potentially quite temporary as well, since we all agreed to just try this out for six months and then see what we think.
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
an interesting thing has been to watch the liberal media and their obsession with how fat trump is and how that means he will definitely die of COVID because he's a big fat slob
― here comes the hotstamper (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link
even though I don't think there is much data on links between obesity per se and COVID morbidity
fwiw I didn't kick this off to push anyone off the board but to point out that it's sad that this 'fat fuck tub of lard lol fattays' shite has gone p much unchecked on ilx since day one
I did flag the post, as I have done with every similar post I've encountered here for years
― here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/obr.13128
― bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
(xp for jim)
― bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link
any comparison to Gervais is cruel
― seumas milm (gyac), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0l3QWUXVho
― bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link
you know what's cruel? a burrito that is too fat to eat. think about it
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link
― bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:11 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:12 AM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
ok, maybe there is some data. but it still seems like there was a lot of luxuriating in pointing out that trump is fat and how that meant COVID was going to be worse for him (so much for that, it seems)
― here comes the hotstamper (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhhXCuUG2pw
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link
I just had a hearty meal and this thread is making me hungry again.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link
also just a reminder, linking fatness to some kind of lapse in judgment or fundamental moral failing is one of the most fundamental and toxic aspects of fatphobia. people who are fat are *routinely treated like* they are selfish, indulgent, immoral pariahs lacking in self control. among the ways this happens is people telling dumb jokes or leaning gleefully into phrases like "tub of lard." so to pick out a terrible person and go "hey it's cool to tell these dumb jokes and mock THIS guy's fatness, because HE'S a selfish, indulgent, immoral pariah lacking in self-control!" --- this is just repeating bodyshaming myths with the words in a different order. and again, i have yet to see any fat activists or to my knowledge any fat people at all saying "oh actually, if it's turning the tables on someone who shames others for their bodies, then it's a-ok!". i am not fat, but i don't want this board to be something i'd be ashamed to reveal to my fat friends.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link
^ as always doc otmartin
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link
doc otm
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 14 October 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link
The Republican platform endorses Puerto Rico statehood
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/obr.13128🕸― bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:11 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink(xp for jim)― bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:12 AM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglinkok, maybe there is some data. but it still seems like there was a lot of luxuriating in pointing out that trump is fat and how that meant COVID was going to be worse for him (so much for that, it seems)
― Boring, Maryland, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 02:51 (three years ago) link
wut
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 02:55 (three years ago) link
oh Zing artifacts?
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link
i have yet to see any fat activists or to my knowledge any fat people at all saying "oh actually, if it's turning the tables on someone who shames others for their bodies, then it's a-ok!"
someone who shames others for their bodies and is a horrible person in a position of great power ... I'm not entirely "a-ok" with it, but tbh, I was not as un-ok with it as I would be for most other people. See also wishing death on horrible people in positions of great power.... but I'm an actual fat person so ... idk?
― sarahell, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
i mean, your perspective is more relevant here than mine!
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
The fact that 20 people expressed their perspective to flag the post is perhaps most relevant -- like, I am just one fat person, and I don't speak for all fat people! And to be super real, I am way more willing to give a pass on fat-shaming when cis-men are being "shamed" as opposed to women, but is that ethical? Idk? Sorry, that's just how I feel.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
i feel that, and to be super real myself, i'm sure that i have given similar passes in other situations. the doubling-down from burrito is what drew me to writing longer soapbox posts in this case.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link
The New KFC Burrito Double Down Meal
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
do you need a yellow card about making horribly formed jokes, forks?
― sarahell, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
no need to be jaundiced
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link
A bit of a quibble/controp: being shamed into changing one's behaviour *can* be helpful in some cases. Speaking for myself and myself only, I probably would have never stopped smoking without a socially-instilled sense that it's utterly disgusting and stupid and expensive and self-destructive, which I feel more strongly when I'm in Canada than when I'm in Romania or France. Not to mention there are plenty of cultures (most?) where, for better or for worse, people don't feel the need to hold back when discussing this stuff. If they think you're overweight, drinking too much, not getting enough exercice, etc., they'll say it outright, and most of the time it's not even meant as an insult, it's more like: 'you really need to do something about that, buddy, it's seriously a shame', point blank. I'm not saying it's the right way to do it – if anything, my understanding is that scientific studies have shown fat-shaming in particular to be ineffective – but I find the cultural facet of it quite interesting. Like, I'm glad I live in a country where homophobes are shamed into shutting up, which I wish was also the case in Romania, say. So yeah, I'm not trying to defend the burrito here, I just have a hard time navigating this shit sometimes.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link
fatness is not a "behavior" though. so even without evaluating shaming's putative effectiveness in your other examples, applying this logic to the case of fatshaming seems dubious at best.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link
more fundamentally, fatness is also not something in need of correcting
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link
If you say so. I'll keep my barbaric thoughts to myself next time.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link
I'm not trying to defend the burrito here
I want this to become an expression.
― jmm, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link
Aka playing burrito's advocate.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
fwiw no one said your thoughts were "barbaric" but ok
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
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Hi everyone,
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― sarahell, Thursday, 15 October 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link
^ because we haven't experienced the random banal beauty of admin log entries like this in too long ...
― sarahell, Thursday, 15 October 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link
good reminder not to source your personal trainers from ilx
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link
only life coaches
― seven day permanence (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link
and YSIs
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link
and ox gallstones
― peace, man, Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link
at first, i thought the idea of a "seven day permanence" was a silly artifact of new mod policy mixed with old board code. but then i realized that, according to various creation myths, we've all been born into a sort of seven day permanence (the universe still exists even in its heat death). in this way, the mods have inserted themselves as gods into the mythology of this board.
― seven day permanence (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link