tbf the worst murderers fail to kill anyone. evil politicians succeed.
― balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 7 October 2021 01:21 (two years ago) link
if you want to listen to or watch something on public transport you should wear headphones
ppl blasting stuff out of their cars I'm ok with tho
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 21 October 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link
I don't think it's particularly conservative to want people to be baseline courteous when everyone around them is trapped in a tiny box. We even have explicit rules against that behavior on our public transport.
― Gimme some skin! Because I don't have any skin. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 October 2021 15:21 (two years ago) link
Does it make me conservative to say 95% of the time I hate the music blasting out of cars though? I live in a neighborhood where just the worst garbage driveltunes are blasted to the max with an inverse relationship between taste and volume. Coupled with all those modifications to also make the car itself (engine) as loud as possible as well.
― Evan, Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link
Yeah this no headphones in public thing is getting horrible
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link
The Guardian sends two people on a blind date to a restaurant every week and then asks them about it, this was this week's
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/oct/16/blind-date-andrew-marta
Any awkward moments?A man on the next table was watching a horror film loudly on his laptop. The constant screams were a tad awkward.
― koogs, Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link
was sat at a restaurant once with a guy watching porn videos on his phone at the next table, that was in guangzhou though so doesn't really count
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link
We even have explicit rules against that behavior on our public transport.
I wish we had. It used to be kids who did this but, where I am anyway, it's now almost overwhelmingly adults - and I mean people in their 30s/40s/50s.
― Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link
I don't like people driving around playing loud music driving through neighborhoods at night (like my son's friends who roll up to the house at 10:30 pm to hang out) but I enjoy pulling up to someone in traffic who has something loud on. It doesn't even have to be (and usually isn't) music I like, but it's good atmosphere for me.
― peace, man, Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link
Also wanted to mention that I think people blast music in cars way less than they used to, but it may just be my own experience. Can anyone confirm?
― peace, man, Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link
When terrestrial radio was still a thing, I used it as a gauge. The last time I got a thrill was early April 2020 at the peak of lockdown when the car beside me at the stoplight blasted Dua Lipa's "Levitating" and I thought, yeah.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvDazrJuSdA
― John Stockton buying a used car from (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown),
Yeah I'm not into that
Also not into those portable blutooth speakers especially in the park, at the beach
Don't really mind music blasting from cars as long as they're moving and not standing or idling l
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 21 October 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, October 21, 2021 12:26 PM bookmarkflaglink
I used to hate Sia's "Chandelier" because before boarding a Megabus, this kid in the seat across from me kept playing the chorus and only the chorus on her handheld device. Loudly. At 6 in the morning.
BLOT: if u don't wear headphones I'll meet you off the bus
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 October 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link
actively pro bluetooth speakers at the park, beach, etc, that's literally what they're for, just keep the volume courteous imo
having a conversation over speaker phone in public is absolutely depraved, however
― gbx, Thursday, 21 October 2021 19:53 (two years ago) link
park/beach definitely. I have a tiny little bluetooth speaker for that type of thing, was really affordable from Oontz
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 October 2021 19:59 (two years ago) link
speakerphone in public i'm tempted to join in the convo but I don't because the person on speaker didn't choose to be on speaker but part of me wants to alert them to the fact that they're on it and their convo isn't private
i probably posted upthread about this but someone at the airport once had a speakerphone convo about their debauched hen party weekend with someone, very loudly, and it seemed pretty apparent that a) the person on the other end probably would not have said what they were saying if they knew it was v much in public and b) the person on my end (in the airport terminal) was enjoying the exhibitionism, she kept looking around to see if anyone was listening
― gbx, Thursday, 21 October 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link
Think about how they’re not blasting their ears using headphones & feel good for them
― badg, Thursday, 21 October 2021 20:24 (two years ago) link
― gbx, Thursday, October 21, 2021 2:53 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
i'm pretty sure that this "pizza talking" speakerphone thing is 100% the result of people emulating reality tv shows where everything had to be on speakerphone for the cameras
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 October 2021 21:18 (two years ago) link
C/D: holding a phone in front of your face as if it were a slice of pizza
― mothersbaugh of invention (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 October 2021 01:56 (two years ago) link
i was thinking a bit today about the fentanyl flood, mostly because i saw a dude just cold zonk out standing up at the sandwich place and smack his head on the corner of a table.
anyway, one of the fever swamp theories is that the chinese govt is pumping the US full of cheap fentanyl just to nakedly weaken and kill americans, and/or for the money. there's no good reason at all to believe this, but if somehow it turned out to be true i wouldn't be at all surprised. why not? it is exactly what the british empire did to china, and what US intelligence did to americans more than once
the recent nyt story about this (relying on a book by Ben Westhoff i haven't read) only identifies china as the source, or source of the raw materials that go into it. trump pressured china to ban all varieties of fentanyl, which apparently they did, but china is still named as the ultimate source of the ingredients. the nyt story says nothing on this point, but the invitation is there to suppose that if the precursors were still being exported to the same suppliers with a wink, the chinese state would have to know about it
i'm extremely skeptical of major US journalism about china these days. just something that came to mind.
― goole, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 05:04 (two years ago) link
Probably my most hardcore, far-right opinion:
https://www.methodsman.com/blog/gas-stove-statistics?fbclid=IwAR1ZH3rDX3-f9XFl3CHBcC7jLKNFwsAiGNgkR2TLyFhKgRHSuf19igCEKdA
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 03:18 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1LjDgzntvI
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 03:19 (one year ago) link
idk you also were toying with the notion of buying guns to defend your suburban homestead from imagined home invaders
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 03:54 (one year ago) link
pretty sure you're talking about the thread where I was talking about buying a gun because of fear of fascists, but ok
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 04:34 (one year ago) link
But here, you can read all of my posts about it in this thread, or, if you prefer, just make some up to support your strawman of me
Are you considering purchasing a gun?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 04:37 (one year ago) link
the gas stove post is completely idiotic
― flopson, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 04:46 (one year ago) link
Is this another American thing where gas means petrol
― kinder, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 16:41 (one year ago) link
it means farts
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link
no "natural gas" -- America had a brief post trump stress disorder flashback seizure where some govt agency made a probably misguided suggestion to ban gas stoves, conservatives seized on it as they're coming for arr freedom, and then liberals had to reflexively take the polar opposite position and started throwing their stoves out the window. In reality, there are probably some decent environmental arguments for phasing out gas stoves (assuming we can actually make our electric grid cleaner, which it isn't yet), and induction stoves are very energy efficient and, though expensive, starting to come down in price. However, one of the main "facts" that has been cited against gas stoves is that they are "responsible for" some large % of child asthma cases, and that is just not true, it's based entirely on bad use of statistics.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 16:55 (one year ago) link
America had a brief post trump stress disorder flashback seizure where some govt agency made a probably misguided suggestion to ban gas stoves
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-09/us-safety-agency-to-consider-ban-on-gas-stoves-amid-health-fears
in reality, one official (trumka jr) raised banning it in an interview, and in the same interview also suggested that other options, including setting standards on emissions from the appliances.
(assuming we can actually make our electric grid cleaner, which it isn't yet)
by the wording of this, i assume you mean "clean", and it'll never be 100% clean, so that's not a very good goal. if you mean "cleaner", as in, "improving",
https://i.imgur.com/AlfxKTK.pnghttps://electrifynow.net/fact-the-electric-grid-is-getting-cleaner-every-day
that was before the pandemic. but clean energy is now much, much cheaper per MWh than coal, and recently the costs have even dipped below natural gas. and many states have passed laws mandating 100% clean energy by 2035, 2040, 2050, etc. the winning argument, as always, is to be very cynical and say that those states will never get there. but they are doing better and making progress toward it, especially the states that aren't run by conservatives.
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link
Claims about 'capitalism' producing a bad life condition (like, say, 'being a slave to the clock of the working day') are often implicitly predicated on a better alternative which once existed, whereas, unfortunately, in actual history (eg absolutism, feudalism, and arguably Stalinism also), it didn't.
This isn't truly a 'conservative' argument because it is, I hope, consonant with the Marxian view that capitalism represented progress and needs to be developed further / built on for something better, not reversed.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 16 February 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link
Pre-covid I remember having an argument with a fellow anarchist friend about this ... and he was kinda in denial about feudalism, and kept referring to some version of land stewardship by peasants minus kings/lords that seemed to be the exception to the rule
― sarahell, Thursday, 16 February 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link
ecologically, tho, capitalism could well yet prove fatal to humanity
― satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 February 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link
Like we agreed on the goals for the future, but were arguing about his premise that Capitalism was some "exile from Eden" thing whereas I was saying, "life was shit prior to Capitalism, there was no pre-Capitalist Eden"
― sarahell, Thursday, 16 February 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link
xp - I'd argue that humanity could well prove fatal to humanity
― sarahell, Thursday, 16 February 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link
it's the Lou Reed fallacy ... romanticizing being born 1000 years ago and sailing on a great big clipper ship ... dude would have gotten scurvy and been miserable tbrrwu
― sarahell, Thursday, 16 February 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link
we're talking Lou Reed here lol
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 February 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link
Also clipper ships didn’t exist 1,000 years ago
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 16 February 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link
well Lou Reed is dead now so
― sarahell, Thursday, 16 February 2023 17:49 (one year ago) link
Have to agree strongly with Sarahell. Life was bad back then - unfortunately.
Tend to agree with N Vague also. Capitalist infliction of ecological damage very dangerous for humans, as well as others.
So, agree that ecological case vs capital is a strong one, though from purely human POV, return to sustainable serfdom not a good plan.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 16 February 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link
She said hey babe
Take a sail on a clipper ship
And the colored girls go
ahoy ahoy ahoy hoy hoy hoy hoy ahoy avast avast ahoy hoy
― tajmahalia jackson (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 February 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link
apparently life was pretty swell in precolonial Hawaii
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 16 February 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link
I don't understand UK politics
― sarahell, Thursday, 23 March 2023 05:36 (one year ago) link
at some base level we're just talking about stronger people exploiting weaker people, with "strength" and "weakness" determined largely by economic status. And that's a tendency that far, far predates the industrial world that birthed Marxism, right?
otm
― sarahell, Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link
Don't see how that's conservative but I'm willing to hear the case.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link
As in, America is way more conservative than the UK
― sarahell, Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link
Ah. Just about, I guess, but the UK is catching up quickly and is insanely conservative compared to most of Europe. UKILX posters v much not representative, lol.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link
At least the US has legal weed and depending on which state you're in you might not be burned at the stake for being trans.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 23 March 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link