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Be good to know *looks nervously over shoulder lol*

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 March 2022 15:00 (two years ago) link

Never secret except that lots of regular posters had never been told about it.

― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, March 13, 2022 5:35 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

not for lack of trying!

― thinkmanship (sleeve), Sunday, March 13, 2022 5:36 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Probably worth noting that, while ILX can often feel like a tight-knit community, few people read every thread on the board and it's easy to miss stuff. The only reason I knew about the Slack is because someone mentioned it to me off-board around the time it started. (I signed up, realized I didn't have time for it, and haven't logged in since.) So it's not surprising to me that some regular posters might not have known about it and consequently feel left out.

jaymc, Monday, 14 March 2022 15:26 (two years ago) link

hey, do i actually have to remind you that ilx has a search function?

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 15:29 (two years ago) link

There's an xls for that.

I think that maybe we could get certain threads mod-stickied. I think I can remember that happening one time that I've been here, although I might be imagining it (https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=58899 ???) . The slack announcement could have been one of them (in hindsight).

I thought about this briefly like a month ago when I realized that I never saw the ILM EOY voting thread (which had only been bumped on a handful of occasions) and thus missed the ballots deadline.

peace, man, Monday, 14 March 2022 15:34 (two years ago) link

peace, man: i don't see anything in the admin tools i get that can do that. granted, i don't have all the tools, and i'm guessing that the reason i get errors when i try and use some of the functions is because as a sub-board mod i have more limited permissions? (not complaining, just saying)

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 15:45 (two years ago) link

Yeah, honestly I don't remember that capability from when I was a mod either, so maybe I'm just making it up.

peace, man, Monday, 14 March 2022 15:54 (two years ago) link

The thread that I linked was very apropro, however.

peace, man, Monday, 14 March 2022 15:57 (two years ago) link

hahah yeah, apart from some classic nabisco otm content, this is good to reflect on -- also i miss Edward III

anyway here's why secret boards are bad ideas: a) information wants to be free, and when "secrets" come out the results aren't usually enjoyable, b) secret boards create a sense of disenfranchaisement amongst non-secret board members, and c) it gives the judgment-impaired a screen behind which to hide.

I think all 3 of these factors greased the sledrails on the recent ... debacle. at least when this shit was on noize board people could shrug it off as "what do you expect, noize board is made of dicks", but when it's on some secret area that only "certain people" are privy to, it adds an extra twist of humiliation...

― Edward III, Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:39 PM (thirteen years ago

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:01 (two years ago) link

also relevant

the idea that's it's some gossip infested shitstorm with teh bottom feeders of ilx scurrying around and talking shit on ppl they don't know and don't usually interact and argue with is completely false

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:32 PM (thirteen years ago)

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:06 (two years ago) link

^kind of a hilarious post in retrospect lol

imago, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:10 (two years ago) link

imago, m8, you missed all the excitement!

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:11 (two years ago) link

getting my lazy gawker zings in while I can innit

imago, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:12 (two years ago) link

now that were a proper clusterfuck m8

imago, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link

sarahell, error messages might be permissions-related, but they might just be shonky code! Actually, now I'm thinking about it I've had issues with deleting posts. Could you try deleting a post by ticking the check box, then scrolling down to the "delete selected posts" button?

emil.y, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link

nope, doesn't work -- i get about a dozen lines of error message code when i try to delete a post, with our without ticking the checkbox

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:15 (two years ago) link

it gets me to the "do you really want to do this" screen, i click yes, i get the errors

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:15 (two years ago) link

Ah, bums. That's about as far as my tech help goes, I'm afraid.

emil.y, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:16 (two years ago) link

Sometimes I would just edit the contents of a post and replace it with some text like CONTROVERSIAL MOD EDIT.

peace, man, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:21 (two years ago) link

I am smelly.

imago, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:23 (two years ago) link

Oh goddamn you sarahell!

imago, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:23 (two years ago) link

lolololol

emil.y, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:24 (two years ago) link

Sometimes I would just edit the contents of a post and replace it with some text like CONTROVERSIAL MOD EDIT.

― peace, man

Honestly, I prefer doing this so you don't then have to delete the responses as well, and people can tell that something was said. Not always the right answer but lots of scenarios where it makes more sense than just deletion.

emil.y, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:26 (two years ago) link

imago - i didn't do that! I can't edit posts ... limited mod powers

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:28 (two years ago) link

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java.lang.NullPointerException at com.conversationboard.model.Message.delete(Unknown Source) at com.conversationboard.controller.AdminDeleteMessageControllerServlet.doPost(Unknown Source) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:660) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:741) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:231) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:166) at org.apache.tomcat.websocket.server.WsFilter.doFilter(WsFilter.java:52) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:193) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:166) at com.conversationboard.filter.GatewayFilter.doFilter(Unknown Source) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:193) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:166) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:200) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:96) at org.apache.catalina.authenticator.AuthenticatorBase.invoke(AuthenticatorBase.java:668) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:139) at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:81) at org.apache.catalina.valves.AbstractAccessLogValve.invoke(AbstractAccessLogValve.java:690) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:87) at org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:343) at org.apache.coyote.ajp.AjpProcessor.service(AjpProcessor.java:525) at org.apache.coyote.AbstractProcessorLight.process(AbstractProcessorLight.java:65) at org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol$ConnectionHandler.process(AbstractProtocol.java:818) at org.apache.tomcat.util.net.NioEndpoint$SocketProcessor.doRun(NioEndpoint.java:1627) at org.apache.tomcat.util.net.SocketProcessorBase.run(SocketProcessorBase.java:49) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1149) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:624) at org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.TaskThread$WrappingRunnable.run(TaskThread.java:61) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748)

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:29 (two years ago) link

imago trying to get you in trouble by fabricating abuse of mod powers, uh oh

emil.y, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:31 (two years ago) link

i think i did give him a comedy threadban a while back so fair play on his part tbh

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link

I heard AbstractAccessLogValve and ThreadPoolExecutor tried to start a band with ThreadSelectedControllerServlet

imago, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:35 (two years ago) link

ThreadSelectedControllerServlet is very very prolific and is like in a dozen other projects; everyone wants to work with ThreadSelectedControllerServlet

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:52 (two years ago) link

don't get me started on the techbro fanbase of AbstractAccessLogValve

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:53 (two years ago) link

their insistence that catalina.core rather than coyote.ajp is the pinnacle of the apache cycle does grate rather

imago, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:56 (two years ago) link

idk catalina.core just makes me feel old y'know? like i was just making peace with vaporwave and then ... it's like i don't understand what music even is anymore?

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 17:22 (two years ago) link

whereas the scene that ThreadPoolExecutor comes out of, I can trace back to stuff that makes sense to me ... like the structure + aesthetic I "get"

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 17:24 (two years ago) link

yeah but it's updated and fresh, you don't put stuff like runWorker out unless you're aware of what's going on right now

imago, Monday, 14 March 2022 17:27 (two years ago) link

oh totally! runWorker is lit af, but then i have that middle-aged self-doubt that stuff like runWorker is catalina.core for olds

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 17:37 (two years ago) link

like prob Thurston Moore and Byron Coley are out there repping for runWorker

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 17:38 (two years ago) link

oh and semi-seriously -- the "hypnagogic pop" reference in yr current thread title -- that's not an oblique reference to something in my personal life?

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 17:40 (two years ago) link

xxp Yeah maybe. We are products of our time after all. But we'll always have that moment AuthenticatorBase dropped, and it felt like something had changed

(not at all! it was a straight c&p of a Whiney post detailing things he didn't want in his experimental music thread)

imago, Monday, 14 March 2022 17:46 (two years ago) link

aha so the anachronism was all a WGW thing ... ok ... the reference (were it to be a reference) would be a very oblique one so n/m

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link

the whole thing with the slack and the "secret shit-talking" has me a bit on edge

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 17:51 (two years ago) link

Are there any ilx heavy hitters on the slack? like is ethan or jess or whiney there? or is it just a bunch of you NOBODIES?!

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 14 March 2022 18:12 (two years ago) link

it's dom p and a bunch of nobodies

mookieproof, Monday, 14 March 2022 18:14 (two years ago) link

but 4 real slack is for work. why would i use slack for something that isnt work unless i was a TOTAL NERD? thats what discord is for smh.

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 14 March 2022 18:19 (two years ago) link

i mean they aren't even getting [REDACTED] for using it, right?

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 18:20 (two years ago) link

easier to post cat pics xp

thinkmanship (sleeve), Monday, 14 March 2022 18:35 (two years ago) link

kurt is not unfamiliar with the slack interface

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 18:38 (two years ago) link

but 4 real slack is for work. why would i use slack for something that isnt work unless i was a TOTAL NERD? thats what discord is for smh.

― kurt schwitterz, Monday, March 14, 2022 6:19 PM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is extremely otm.

u have to LOVE to WORK pic.twitter.com/fv5bb5fJpQ

— Vinny Thomas (@vinn_ayy) March 9, 2022

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Monday, 14 March 2022 18:39 (two years ago) link

lol Kurt making the good points here.

Did someone start a slack so they could ILX at work without getting caught.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 14 March 2022 22:15 (two years ago) link

also i miss Edward III

Plantagenets > Windsors

imagine flagons (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 14 March 2022 22:38 (two years ago) link

were they on Load Records?

sarahell, Monday, 14 March 2022 23:26 (two years ago) link


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