Very exciting game watching some of the new kids coming through. Brennan once again shows some of his potential. Joel McDonald quietly went about doing a great job.
I'm waiting for the fallout. Riewoldt's broken collarbone very disappointing - he is an extremely good player.
I am very disappointed in Channel 9's coverage of the aftermath of the incident. I cannot see what good comes from constantly showing a young man sitting on the bench crying. How does this help him as a captain, his club, him as a person. I feel very sorry for Nick and hope he's back playing soon.
Before you all start - yes the bumps on Reiwoldt from Chris Scott and Mal Michael after the injury looked ugly. But I give you Chris Scott's POV on the incident. I also agree with his assessment if the whole thing had involved Barry Hall and not Nick Reiwoldt!
"...Shortly after, the St Kilda captain did leave the field and the Lions overran the Saints from that moment on to record a 23-point win, but not before a clearly-distressed Riewoldt was shown on national television and at the ground with tears in his eyes at three-quarter time.
"If the question you are asking is 'did we go after a guy who was clearly injured?' Then no," Scott replied after the match when asked about his version of events.
"He was clearly affected (by the injury), but 'did we know he had a broken collarbone?' No - he was running back to his position to continue playing the game."
Scott conceded that if they had confronted Riewoldt knowing the collarbone was fractured while trying to leave the field then that would be 'offside'. However, the rugged backman suggested the Lions were only returning fire from the pressure the St Kilda forwards had applied up until that moment.
"He was out there for a fair while playing the game and if the ball came down and he went for the ball, do we go easy on him?" added Scott, who was informed by the assembled media that the incident had been replayed several times and would attract further scrutiny.
"If it was Barry Hall (Sydney Swans) and he was running back with a sore shoulder then there would probably be no scrutiny," he said.
Scott said he spoke to the Saints captain briefly after the match had finished and indicated that Riewoldt did not have a problem with the treatment he received out on the ground.
The main bout though involved the Lion defender's running battle with Hamill and despite reports, Scott said that he only suffered a minor tooth injury during one of the many heated exchanges between the pair.
"We as a club certainly respect the way he (Hamill) plays his football," Scott said.
"It is always important that we put physical pressure on him and he is happy to give it back which makes for a good contest.
"He is a good bloke, but while the game is on we are both competitive people."
Like his coach, Scott said the Lions were just happy to get away with the win and suggested a few of the Saints key players were a little underdone."
― Lucy Lion (Lucy Lion), Friday, 25 March 2005 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)
This take-no-prisoners approach might've been all right in the '70s, even the '80s, and, indeed, they probably didn't do any physical damage, but surely the spirit of the game was tested like it hasn't been before.
As Riewoldt sat crying on the bench, seemingly devastated you have to ask: Is it in the spirit of the game to knowingly attack an injured, defenceless player?
The answer must be no.
I must say that I felt a little ill when watching those two attack a defenseless player. It was a weak effort and took some gloss off what was a good win for their team.
― chrisso (chrisso), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)
What MM and Scott did was not pretty and little more than school yard bullying, but has happened a thousand times before and never telecast on prime time.
― Bennö (Bennö), Friday, 25 March 2005 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)
EM had an attack of acute apoplexy at the time Reiwolt was injured and could barely talk, but as he often mistakes shouting for exciting commentary, was able to ignore him.
The hits on Reiwolt were probably unnecessary but in the context of the game at that stage, probably justified. Tend to partially agree with you, Benno.
It's never nice to see a good player injured but we do tend to get a bit carried away when one of them is. Had it been Hamill or Martin Pike, it would all have been a bit "Ho hum" and "Bad luck" and get on with the game.
Then again EM's excitement may have been generated by his belief that Reiwolt could by out until after Round 6.
By the way, did anyone else notice the new Channel 9 pronunciation of Rei-V-olt by EM and Dennis. Obviously very upmarket and the In-touchChannel 9 way of doing things these days. I still remember their dickhead pronunciation of Murali's moniker.
Losers.
― Westener (Westener), Friday, 25 March 2005 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)
Has Dermie worked off the hard-on he copped over the incident yet?
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)
Even though this one could barely defend himself and Christopher the Courageous had a mate to help him just in case.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)
By staying on the field (reiwoldt was not concussed, and I assume capable of rational thought), he was putting himself in the position where further injury could occur.
I remember someone last year (was it Lynch?) punching his opposition in the ribs who had just returned from a rib cartilage injury...
― Bennö (Bennö), Saturday, 26 March 2005 06:41 (twenty-one years ago)
But then as was pointed out on Fox's Saturday Central yesterday, the difference between the Lloyd/Ketiouk and the Brown/Cornes(?) incidents where players definitely knew there was an injury as they came into the game after sustaining them.
Scott and Michael had every right to test the player - most players will get us gingerly from a contest in the hope of a free kick if they get it they are miraculously alright.
On a much brighter note, - so far my tips are 4 from 4. Today however could see that cut down.
― Lucy Lion (Lucy Lion), Saturday, 26 March 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)
If you look at the incident you will see that Reiwoldt actually smashes his head on the ground and in his first game as captain he wants to show his teammates that he will his all for the cause.
The ball was 50 meters away and the bloke was in obvious pain. If the ball was in the vicinity then fair enough. It was as weak an effort as you will ever see on the footy field and I'll leave it at that.
― chrisso (chrisso), Sunday, 27 March 2005 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)
What is done is done.
Time to move on.
― Westener (Westener), Sunday, 27 March 2005 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)
Would the same stink have been raised if it had been Barry Hall or Jonathan Brown instead of Riewoldt? Most likely not. Should it? Yes it should.
All those old cretins crapping on about the Law Of The Jungle should remember Para 1 of TLOTJ: Adapt or perish. And also remember the competition between sports, for players, support, money, image, etc, is a jungle as well (why else would the latest outrage by a monumentally mediocre NRL player crack the back page of the Age last week). The media coverage is a reality which no amount of whinging will change and the AFL has to live with it and the game has to adapt. What Happens On The Field can no longer Stay On The Field.
Deal with it, Dermie and Wallsy and all those 50-year-old ex-bush/suburban back pockets whinging on talkback, or sod off back to your WWF videos. The Law Of The Jungle sorts out its dinosaurs quick smart and already there's not enough of you left for you to be much missed.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 28 March 2005 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)
His comments about barry hall is interesting, lets face it C scott wouldnt have the courage to do it to barry, not unless he wasnt looking.
Hey chris, great game in the GF, and love that ducking of the head when standing under the ball for a mark, you weak pri..
But i must admit it was a cracking, physical game, should be more of them.
Once again it proved that under pressure the saints are suspect.
Round 1 also proved that collingwood are gone, the crows will finish bottom, wizard cup form means nothing
― jsa, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)
The continual spiking of Hamill's head was also poor in my book and appeared to be deliberate as. You'll get yours grub....
regards,
REB
― Rik E Boy (Rik E Boy), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)
BBBB actually got a couple of frees. Unbelievable.
Now, Hawks supporters. Croad is a cat, he played 3m behind Hall all day and refused to put his body on the line in any way, shape or form.Everitt is your only hope.Hodge should have been taken off injured 10 minutes in and was a passenger for most of the game.
I have not seen the Pies game yet, but from what I read today and saw Sunday, they are probably in as much trouble as the Hawks...
― Bennö (Bennö), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)