I think when it comes to understanding Hipsters ca. 2011, I think me, sarahel, Lamp and MFB are like professors with tenure
― brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
well it is technically your career
― iatee, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
I can't imagine that's a point of pride, Whiney.
― come back to the five and dime remy bean, (remy bean), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
Tbh its low level sense of accomplishment on the level of "returning all your Netflix envelopes," "getting the last coffee before they close," and "only having to wipe once"
― brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
outstanding post ^
― come back to the five and dime remy bean, (remy bean), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
maybe a more fruitful discussion would be how are books successfully marketed to hipsters, or what the 'hipster' looks for in a book, or trends in hipster lit ... i dunno. Like "Shoplifting from American Apparel" reminded me of "Generation X" in some ways, and i feel like it functions similarly.
― sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't know that was a real book.
footnote to Remy Bean's good definition: male hipsters often seem to do things with their appearance that make them look worse than they already would, eg big beard, huge glasses, stupid cap, deerstalker hat, or something
I doubt that this is true of the female ones.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not _that_ old, but contemporary discussions about hipsters just seem like a retread of late 80s/early 90s Gen X concerns, in a lot of ways.
― sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
Absolutely true with female ones
― brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
Coupland = Soul Coughing
― the four HOOSmen of the STEENpacolypse (rip van wanko), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― *steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
footnote to Remy Bean's good definition: male hipsters often seem to do things with their appearance that make them look worse than they already would, eg big beard, huge glasses, stupid cap, deerstalker hat, or somethingI doubt that this is true of the female ones.― the pinefox, Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:50 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark
― the pinefox, Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:50 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark
otm and im not even sure if women are excluded
― HEROIN IS LIKE JAZZ TO ME (history mayne), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
my mom was the one who recommended i read 'confederacy of dunces.' i think i dont have any literary-focused hipster friends or something. i read all the time but have basically no perspective on the *discourse of literature*.
― D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
so tao lin = hinder
― *steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110611133207AAv8I6C
― brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
nah my mom just reads about books
― D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
i mean confederacy of dunces may be big w/ hipsters, idk, but its also just like, an acclaimed book, big with anyone who reads acclaimed books
I had no idea you were half-hipster by birth, d
― iatee, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
one drop rule
― D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
deej's mom
http://b.vimeocdn.com/ps/160/160955_300.jpg
― brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
i thought we agreed thats a 'scene kid' not a hipster
we did, i'm just trolling u
― brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
WS tbh
― D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
http://i43.tower.com/images/mm107311561/spanking-monkey-dvd-cover-art.jpg
― brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
u'd sleep w/ yr mom?
― come back to the five and dime remy bean, (remy bean), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
― D-40, Sunday, August 28, 2011 12:55 PM (2 minutes ago)
exactly -- also supports spectrum theory
― sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
last person who recommended confederacy of dunces to me was a 50 yr old medical consultant. maybe he thought i was a hipster.
― zvookster, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
it's also kinda lame
*ducks*
― come back to the five and dime remy bean, (remy bean), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
wow, some of our dads know who band of horses is, that doesn't make them hipsters iirc
― brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
like I'm more interested in talking about something like the Lucky Peach magazine, which confused me when I got exclamation-filled fb notices from a local magazine/book store that it had arrived, and then that there was only one copy left, and then that it was sold out ...
― sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
― brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, August 28, 2011 3:02 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
NPR covering band of horses is not the same as the new york times book review writing about ... anything they acclaim
― D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
deej, you're coming in here setting up a false dichotomy and I don't like it
― brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
Whiney, do you have a copy of Oran Canfield's memoir? Also, where would that fall on the hipster lit spectrum?
― sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
false dichotomies!!!!!!!
― *steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
deej, i love u like a brother, but u did the same thing with Gucci Mane. Just because a bunch of hipsters like something that the "normals" in your world of young ppl and moms like, it doesn't mean that A) it makes your friends/families hipsters or B) these things don't have a unique life of their own in hipster circles
― brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
i really want to read oran's memoir. his band is on the hipster puppies tape!
― brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
i know, i bought the book from him when they were on tour last fall!
― sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
is it good?
― brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
haven't read it yet ;/
― sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
i never claimed "a" and wtf is a 'unique life of their own'
YOU did the same thing w/r/t gucci mane -- just because hipsters do something doesnt make it unique to hipsters or a characteristic of hipsterdom. "hipsters breath -- ergo..."
― D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
"because hipsters do something" kind of by definition makes it a characteristic of hipsterdom
― brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
i bet hipsters tie their shoelaces much the same way i do -- i must be a hipster
― D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
a 'unique life of their own' is being street music in atl and flav of the month in billysburg
i guess the question is whether something as overground as confederacy can be said to have its own unique hipster life...probably it can
― zvookster, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
are you saying you aren't a hipster, deej? That a proper definition of "hipster" would exclude you?
― sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
the counterpoint to whiney's point against deej is that the boundaries of these "hipster circles" are subjectively defined by a critical mass of "these things" that people need to accrete. there is no "correct" or "accepted" definition for that critical mass.
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
every hipster human life is unique like a snowflake, guys.
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
are you preparing to be a contestant on jeopardy? is that why your posts are always in the form of a question? xxp
― D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
like for my teenagers in my classes, white sunglasses = hipster.
but in my world, everybody from the bro-iest brah to the dirtiest dirtbag has white sunglasses.
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
i mean vonnegut and wallace are kind of rock n roll
cofederacy guy died in obscurity that's kind of rock n roll
bolano died young that's kind of rock n roll
i think u can get more hipster, like actual counterculture presses, counter to the culture or just the publishing culture, see my post above for big little presses or some of the more fringe stuff like semiotext(e) or the stuff sarahel mentions
― zvookster, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
― zvookster, Sunday, August 28, 2011 3:16 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
maybe this is LOL chicago but i never heard ppl in wicker park repping for gucci mane but w/e
― D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link