what are 'hipster' books?

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well it is technically your career

iatee, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

I can't imagine that's a point of pride, Whiney.

come back to the five and dime remy bean, (remy bean), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

Tbh its low level sense of accomplishment on the level of "returning all your Netflix envelopes," "getting the last coffee before they close," and "only having to wipe once"

brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

outstanding post ^

come back to the five and dime remy bean, (remy bean), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

maybe a more fruitful discussion would be how are books successfully marketed to hipsters, or what the 'hipster' looks for in a book, or trends in hipster lit ... i dunno. Like "Shoplifting from American Apparel" reminded me of "Generation X" in some ways, and i feel like it functions similarly.

sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't know that was a real book.

footnote to Remy Bean's good definition: male hipsters often seem to do things with their appearance that make them look worse than they already would, eg big beard, huge glasses, stupid cap, deerstalker hat, or something

I doubt that this is true of the female ones.

the pinefox, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not _that_ old, but contemporary discussions about hipsters just seem like a retread of late 80s/early 90s Gen X concerns, in a lot of ways.

sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

Absolutely true with female ones

brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

Coupland = Soul Coughing

the four HOOSmen of the STEENpacolypse (rip van wanko), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

lol

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

footnote to Remy Bean's good definition: male hipsters often seem to do things with their appearance that make them look worse than they already would, eg big beard, huge glasses, stupid cap, deerstalker hat, or something

I doubt that this is true of the female ones.

― the pinefox, Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:50 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark

otm and im not even sure if women are excluded

HEROIN IS LIKE JAZZ TO ME (history mayne), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

my mom was the one who recommended i read 'confederacy of dunces.' i think i dont have any literary-focused hipster friends or something. i read all the time but have basically no perspective on the *discourse of literature*.

D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

so tao lin = hinder

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

nah my mom just reads about books

D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

i mean confederacy of dunces may be big w/ hipsters, idk, but its also just like, an acclaimed book, big with anyone who reads acclaimed books

D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

I had no idea you were half-hipster by birth, d

iatee, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

one drop rule

D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

deej's mom

http://b.vimeocdn.com/ps/160/160955_300.jpg

brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

i thought we agreed thats a 'scene kid' not a hipster

D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

we did, i'm just trolling u

brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

WS tbh

D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

u'd sleep w/ yr mom?

come back to the five and dime remy bean, (remy bean), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

i mean confederacy of dunces may be big w/ hipsters, idk, but its also just like, an acclaimed book, big with anyone who reads acclaimed books

― D-40, Sunday, August 28, 2011 12:55 PM (2 minutes ago)

exactly -- also supports spectrum theory

sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

last person who recommended confederacy of dunces to me was a 50 yr old medical consultant. maybe he thought i was a hipster.

zvookster, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

it's also kinda lame

*ducks*

come back to the five and dime remy bean, (remy bean), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

wow, some of our dads know who band of horses is, that doesn't make them hipsters iirc

brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

like I'm more interested in talking about something like the Lucky Peach magazine, which confused me when I got exclamation-filled fb notices from a local magazine/book store that it had arrived, and then that there was only one copy left, and then that it was sold out ...

sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

wow, some of our dads know who band of horses is, that doesn't make them hipsters iirc

― brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, August 28, 2011 3:02 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

NPR covering band of horses is not the same as the new york times book review writing about ... anything they acclaim

D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

deej, you're coming in here setting up a false dichotomy and I don't like it

brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

Whiney, do you have a copy of Oran Canfield's memoir? Also, where would that fall on the hipster lit spectrum?

sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

false dichotomies!!!!!!!

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

deej, i love u like a brother, but u did the same thing with Gucci Mane. Just because a bunch of hipsters like something that the "normals" in your world of young ppl and moms like, it doesn't mean that A) it makes your friends/families hipsters or B) these things don't have a unique life of their own in hipster circles

brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

i really want to read oran's memoir. his band is on the hipster puppies tape!

brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

i know, i bought the book from him when they were on tour last fall!

sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

is it good?

brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

haven't read it yet ;/

sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

i never claimed "a" and wtf is a 'unique life of their own'

YOU did the same thing w/r/t gucci mane -- just because hipsters do something doesnt make it unique to hipsters or a characteristic of hipsterdom. "hipsters breath -- ergo..."

D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

"because hipsters do something" kind of by definition makes it a characteristic of hipsterdom

brrr-icane aye-rene (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

i bet hipsters tie their shoelaces much the same way i do -- i must be a hipster

D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

a 'unique life of their own' is being street music in atl and flav of the month in billysburg

i guess the question is whether something as overground as confederacy can be said to have its own unique hipster life...probably it can

zvookster, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

are you saying you aren't a hipster, deej? That a proper definition of "hipster" would exclude you?

sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

the counterpoint to whiney's point against deej is that the boundaries of these "hipster circles" are subjectively defined by a critical mass of "these things" that people need to accrete. there is no "correct" or "accepted" definition for that critical mass.

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

every hipster human life is unique like a snowflake, guys.

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

are you preparing to be a contestant on jeopardy? is that why your posts are always in the form of a question? xxp

D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

like for my teenagers in my classes, white sunglasses = hipster.

but in my world, everybody from the bro-iest brah to the dirtiest dirtbag has white sunglasses.

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

i mean vonnegut and wallace are kind of rock n roll

cofederacy guy died in obscurity that's kind of rock n roll

bolano died young that's kind of rock n roll

i think u can get more hipster, like actual counterculture presses, counter to the culture or just the publishing culture, see my post above for big little presses or some of the more fringe stuff like semiotext(e) or the stuff sarahel mentions

zvookster, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

a 'unique life of their own' is being street music in atl and flav of the month in billysburg

i guess the question is whether something as overground as confederacy can be said to have its own unique hipster life...probably it can

― zvookster, Sunday, August 28, 2011 3:16 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

maybe this is LOL chicago but i never heard ppl in wicker park repping for gucci mane but w/e

D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

deej, i don't know whether to feel dissed or grateful that you don't pay much attention to my posts.

sarahel, Sunday, 28 August 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link


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