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Yikes! So sorry! Also, I keep thinking of Wayward Pines as Whispering Pines, but relieved to see that I didn't post it as the latter, although that might be a better title, especially if they used the song (but too Twin Peaks/Coen-y maybe)

dow, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link

Flowers for Algernon for the first time.

koogs, Friday, 10 July 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link

a classic

Οὖτις, Friday, 10 July 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link

Horace Gold arguing for a happy ending is very smdh

Οὖτις, Friday, 10 July 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

I've never read any longform Spinrad, altho Bug Jack Barron has been on my list forever...

Οὖτις, Friday, 10 July 2015 23:06 (eight years ago) link

Same here. I did like his Asimov's Mag book reviews---intricate straight talk about SF! Much appreciated pre-Web, not that it wouldn't be now. But then he went off on a tangent about Le Guin---okay at first, maybe, but just kept going and never did quite come back, seemed like. Hope I'm wrong, but I just started skipping his columns, and eventually my subscription lasped. But he did collect some of this material, and I'd like to check it again (got the book somewhere, mags too, prob).

dow, Saturday, 11 July 2015 00:44 (eight years ago) link

2014 Shirley Jackson Awards Winners

— posted Sunday 12 July 2015 @ 9:15 am PDT

The 2014 Shirley Jackson Awards winners were announced on July 12, 2015 at Readercon 22 in Burlington MA. The awards are presented for outstanding achievement in horror, psychological suspense, and dark fantasy fiction.

NOVEL

Annihilation, Jeff VanderMeer (FSG Originals)

Broken Monsters, Lauren Beukes (Mulholland)
The Lesser Dead, Christopher Buehlman (Berkley)
The Unquiet House, Alison Littlewood (Jo Fletcher)
Bird Box, Josh Malerman (Ecco)
Confessions, Kanae Minato (Mulholland)

NOVELLA

We Are All Completely Fine, Daryl Gregory (Tachyon)

Ceremony of Flies, Kate Jonez (DarkFuse)
“The Mothers of Voorhisville”, Mary Rickert (Tor.com 4/30/14)
The Good Shabti, Robert Sharp (Jurassic London)
The Beauty, Aliya Whiteley (Unsung Stories)

NOVELETTE

“The End of the End of Everything”, Dale Bailey (Tor.com 4/23/14)

Office at Night, Kate Bernheimer & Laird Hunt (Coffee House)
“The Quiet Room”, V.H. Leslie (Shadows & Tall Trees 2014)
“The Husband Stitch”, Carmen Maria Machado (Granta #129)
“Newspaper Heart”, Stephen Volk (The Spectral Book of Horror Stories)
“The Devil in America”, Kai Ashante Wilson (Tor.com 4/2/14)

SHORT FICTION

“The Dogs Home”, Alison Littlewood (The Spectral Book of Horror Stories)

“Wendigo Nights”, Siobhan Carroll (Fearful Symmetries)
“Candy Girl”, Chikodili Emelumadu (Apex 11/14)
“Shay Corsham Worsted”, Garth Nix (Fearful Symmetries)
“The Fisher Queen”, Alyssa Wong (F&SF 5-6/14)

SINGLE-AUTHOR COLLECTION

Gifts for the One Who Comes After, Helen Marshall (ChiZine)

Unseaming, Mike Allen (Antimatter)
After the People Lights Have Gone Off, Stephen Graham Jones (Dark House)
They Do The Same Things Different There, Robert Shearman (ChiZine)
Burnt Black Suns, Simon Strantzas (Hippocampus)

EDITED ANTHOLOGY

Fearful Symmetries, Ellen Datlow, ed. (ChiZine)

Letters to Lovecraft, Jesse Bullington, ed. (Stone Skin)
Shadows & Tall Trees 2014, Michael Kelly, ed. (Undertow/ChiZine)
The Children of Old Leech, Ross E. Lockhart & Justin Steele, ed. (Word Horde)
The Spectral Book of Horror Stories, Mark Morris, ed. (Spectral)

- See more at:http://www.locusmag.com/News/2015/07/2014-shirley-jackson-awards-winners/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#sthash.BYiK55OT.dpuf"> http://www.locusmag.com/News/2015/07/2014-shirley-jackson-awards-winners/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#sthash.BYiK55OT.dpuf links etc

dow, Sunday, 12 July 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link

Tom Piccirilli passed away. Here's Nick Mamatas talking about him.
http://nihilistic-kid.livejournal.com/1927635.html

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 12 July 2015 22:27 (eight years ago) link

loving Malzberg's "Out From Ganymede" collection so far. Having primarily read his novels before (which can get tiresome, repetitive, and depressing in their monomania) and it definitely plays to his strengths to have things broken up into short chunks, and he acknowledges as much in the introduction. The format allows him to set up the premise, explore the story's central idea, and make the most of his sharp prose before wearing out his welcome.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

Interested to know what is in that collection.

Crawling From The Blecchage (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link

Contents:

Out from Ganymede
November 22, 1963
Still-Life
The Conquest of Mars
Some Notes Toward a Useable Past
Linkage
The Union Forever
Yearbook
Inter Alia
Allowances
The Helmet
Breaking In
Pater Familias (with Kris Neville)
Causation
The Art of Fiction
A Short Religious Novel
Report of the Defense
Notes for a Novel About the First Ship Ever to Venus
Beyond Sleep
The Interceptor
Agony Column
The Sense of the Fire

a lot of these are *very* short - like 10 pages. I hadn't read any of them before. I have a different collection ("The Many Worlds of Barry Malzberg", a laughably generic and inappropriate title - world-building is not his thing) which I think covers a later period and was not quite as engaging.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

can we lol at this cover:
https://i1.wp.com/www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/e/ed/THMNZBRG481975.jpg

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link

Lol

Crawling From The Blecchage (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link

i got the coyote trilogy by allen steele. he lives near me and comes in my store sometimes with his dog so i figure i should try and support local SF. also got his book A King Of Infinite Space.

got two ace doubles today too. delany jewels of aptor/james white second ending and philip jose farmer twofer of cache from outer space/the celestial blueprint.

AND i splurged and got ancillary sword/ancillary justice by ann leckie. just trying to stay a little bit current. they look like books i would enjoy.

also, cyrus was very excited to get the new book by the ready player one guy. he just finished ready player one and he says its his favorite book.

scott seward, Thursday, 16 July 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link

just looked at the RP1 wiki and ... I can't get with that, I don't think. and of course now Spielberg is making a movie of it.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 July 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link

Still-Life

One of my favorite stories, by anyone, ever.

alimosina, Thursday, 16 July 2015 22:27 (eight years ago) link

I dunno if it's better than the v similar and much longer "Beyond Apollo" but it's certainly more concise

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 July 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

Seems like most of his novels have a corresponding short story version.

Crawling From The Blecchage (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 July 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

from the fix-up school of noveling

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 July 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link

B-b-but does he stitch together multiple stories or just expand them one at a time?

Crawling From The Blecchage (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 July 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link

ha that's hard to say given how much he re-used certain themes and situations (JFK assassination, inscrutable but near-omniscient aliens interfering with schmoes, crazed astronauts, etc.). He had a bunch of stories about disturbed astronauts and the futility of the space program, for example, which varied in certain ways but it would probably not have been hard for him to just string a bunch of them together and change some minor details here and there to keep them consistent.

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 July 2015 20:59 (eight years ago) link

I love fixup novels

We should do a greatest fixup novel poll

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Friday, 17 July 2015 22:47 (eight years ago) link

not exactly on topic but cool: https://twitter.com/videodrew/status/622205026316984320

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 July 2015 01:01 (eight years ago) link

I love fixup novels

We should do a greatest fixup novel poll


Canticle? Though I need to reread

Crawling From The Blecchage (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 July 2015 07:43 (eight years ago) link

Dying earth bro

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 18 July 2015 12:58 (eight years ago) link

That too, but haven't finished reading the first time

Crawling From The Blecchage (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 July 2015 13:12 (eight years ago) link

Looks like that is the case with a lot of the great fix ups, actually

Crawling From The Blecchage (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 July 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link

"The 2014 Shirley Jackson Awards winners were announced on July 12, 2015 at Readercon 22 in Burlington MA."

damn, i didn't even know about this thing. it's up the road a piece from me. i've done record shows in burlington. i could hang out with chip delany.

scott seward, Saturday, 18 July 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link

burlington is kinda like an interdimensional void in some ways. if you aren't from there you probably don't know its there and there is nothing there and nothing near there.

scott seward, Saturday, 18 July 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link

Seems like WeirdFictionReview is dying down quite a bit. I hope it's going to stick around because in previous years it was amazing.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 19 July 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link

At the omphalos of steampunk right now- the Royal Observatory at Greenwich.

No Solar Shoe Salesman, no credibility

poll

Οὖτις, Monday, 20 July 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link

Her Smoke Rose up Forever: a heady cocktail of love and misery, sex and death. Stellar stuff, pretty much, a couple of misfires aside; not necessarily recommended for those trying to avoid encouraging their natural tendencies towards misanthropy, misandry and a keen sense of futility.

ledge, Monday, 27 July 2015 11:39 (eight years ago) link

Kim Stanley Robinson's new one, Aurora, which was very entertaining: slightly odd authorial voice explained by the book being written by an AI learning to to be conscious and to write -- I really liked it, but if you don't like KSR this one won't change your mind

Louisa Hall: Speak -- a David-Mitchell-nested-narratives story about the creation of AI, which had lots of good bits, but didn't entirely work for me; the 5 layers of story are too carefully, literarily intertwined and cross-referential, and some stuff atributed to Alan Turing is a bit on the nose (such as when talking about social mores, he talks about how awful it is to "break codes", or the way one shortish made-up letter will just happen to reference machine intelligence, Snow White, his homosexuality, code-breaking, and more)

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 04:21 (eight years ago) link

Reading the grauniad sf round up and we have 'a masterpiece', a 'tour de force', 'a gripping read', a book with a 'brilliant creation' of a character and a 'brilliant twist', 'a stunning double finale', and one superlative free review. Maybe things are that great in current sf but i somehow doubt that if I were to enthusiastically pick all these up I wouldn't be disappointed two or three or four times over. Tempted to give at least one a go though, maybe the tour de force.

ledge, Sunday, 2 August 2015 12:26 (eight years ago) link

(In order: Chrid Beckett, Mother of Eden; Becky Chambers, The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet; Stephen Palmer, Beautiful Intelligence; Ian Sales, All That Outer Space Allows; SL Grey, Under Ground; and Alex Lamb, Roboteer. I'd discount the first, third and last for genre considerations, and the last for not being superlative.)

ledge, Sunday, 2 August 2015 13:00 (eight years ago) link

Been reading a lot of the awards/puppy controversy on Black Gate blog. Initially I wanted to avoid it because I find most outrages really boring and annoying but I've really enjoyed reading about this one, though I still don't completely understand the whole situation. Very refreshing to see different sides of the argument discussing things civilly in the comments thread.
But really taken aback by some of the views of the most conservative "puppy" writers, like "is this a joke, are you really saying these things that would have sounded nuts to many people several decades ago and definitely sound nuts to most conservatives today?", I had no idea there were still fairly popular writers quite like that.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 2 August 2015 13:22 (eight years ago) link

James, a friend of mine recommended the KSR just last night. I have read a few short stories that I liked but haven't made it through any of his big novels yet, daunted by the length, perhaps will try this one.

ledge, that grauniad roundup is little too conspicuously upbeat, a classic 'win-win' situation. Hope springs eternal though. As you may know that Ian Sales book is the fourth in a series which is probably best read in order.

Thanks for that blog reference, Robert, although I too have steered clear of these controversies thus far,

Archaic Buster Poindexter, Live At The Apollo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

You neglected to pull this cherce nugget from the graunaid, ledge;

It’s JG Ballard meets Agatha Christie, with a soupcon of Patricia Highsmith thrown in.

Archaic Buster Poindexter, Live At The Apollo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

Well that Guardian reviewer is an SF writer so might not be that reliable. It's not unheard of for them to be totally honest but more often they are very complimentary.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 2 August 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link

You think?

Archaic Buster Poindexter, Live At The Apollo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

Related subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXUKjn40l6Q

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 2 August 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

Tbh was afraid to click on that but I am now glad I did, it was kind of awesome.

Archaic Buster Poindexter, Live At The Apollo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2015 17:18 (eight years ago) link

Internet has actually made this situation far worse. With genre forums of mostly writers and some authors attacking negative reviewers. The horror forums I have frequented are always 90% writers/editors/illustrators and someday when I finally read a lot of these guys I'd be hesitant to write a negative or even lukewarm review, so probably wouldn't write a review at all.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 2 August 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link

Video left me wanting more info about Harlan Ellison's haircut decisions.

Went back over a couple more grauniad round ups, all the reviews were positive but not quite as unreservedly enthusiastic as this month.

Not sure what KSR short stories I've read but I haven't read any long ones. Aurora seems like a good place to start... I think I said this this upthread already.

ledge, Sunday, 2 August 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link

Intriguing review of Neal Stephenson's Seveneves and Kim Stanley Robinson's Aurora, with cogent, concise comments on their relationship to the present era:
http://lareviewofbooks.org/review/the-warm-equations

― dow, Sunday, June 28, 2015 2:31 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Only thing: the reviewer limits himself *so much* by abstention from all spoilers. But he says why.

― dow, Sunday, June 28, 2015 2:38 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also check the links below the review, like Matthew Snyder on Hieroglyph:
http://lareviewofbooks.org/review/saving-spaceship-earth

― dow, Sunday, June 28, 2015 3:07 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dow, Sunday, 2 August 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link

Writers can now send that youtube link to each other when they don't want to blurb each others weaker books.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 2 August 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link


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