think of catcher in the rye any time i get maudlin about the innocence of youth, or wh3en i see a duck pondthink of bell jar anytime i am supremely depressed and want to be dead, or when i think about work at fashion magazines, or tuberculosis, or putting grape jelly in an avocado
― no one in particular (Abbott), Monday, 2 May 2016 01:55 (eight years ago) link
bell jar ALSO anytime i drink vodka straight!! or see a roll of carpet
― no one in particular (Abbott), Monday, 2 May 2016 01:56 (eight years ago) link
yessss so many little observational details are just so well rendered you can't forget them
― Treeship, Monday, 2 May 2016 01:58 (eight years ago) link
it's just a brilliant book. i have only read some of plath's poetry but i think i am going to read ariel this summer
― Treeship, Monday, 2 May 2016 01:59 (eight years ago) link
I can't vote here, I love both of these too much
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 2 May 2016 02:19 (eight years ago) link
CITR is a different, and maybe better, book when you reread it as an adult, or at least it was for me. ppl always remember holden's bluster, but when i come back to the book it's his sheer fragility and lostness that stands out. feels like a much sadder book to me than the bell jar (which i also luv).
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 2 May 2016 06:13 (eight years ago) link
interesting. holden obviously doesn't encounter the outer reaches of misery -- where it becomes a mortal illness -- the way esther does, but he doesn't have the same capacity to understand and (perhaps) get through his situation that esther does, so i could see how the book could seem even bleaker. for me, the bell jar was a much more upsetting reading experience.
― Treeship, Monday, 2 May 2016 13:37 (eight years ago) link
catcher also much funnier when read as an adult. last i read it (~15yrs ago) i also remember more distance, more irony, less sense of identification between author and protagonist than how it's generally considered, i think.
― sciatica, Monday, 2 May 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link
Catcher hit me hard as a teenager. The Bell Jar I read later, in my mid-20s, and I loved it. In my 40s, I re-read Catcher with trepidation, expecting to hate it. But I thought it held up extremely well, despite a certain sentimentalism I hadn't particularly noticed as a teenager. I've yet to re-read The Bell Jar, so I can't say.
On another note, it's over six years since Salinger died, and not a peep about the six or seven novels he supposedly had locked up in his vault in his Cornish hideaway, I wonder what the story is there. Surely his executors have had a look by now. Strange nothing has leaked out.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 6 May 2016 14:43 (eight years ago) link
http://www.blogto.com/listings/cafes/upload/2010/04/2010417-belljar-menu.jpg
― Erediauwa (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 May 2016 15:06 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Wxvz8O9.jpg
― Erediauwa (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 May 2016 15:07 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 19 June 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 20 June 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link