Who will be the next American to win the Nobel Prize for Literature?

That would look great printed on toilet paper

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If they were going to give it to an American poet why couldn't they give it to Billy Collins? Oh wait.

lol James, that was perfect <3

so not gonna happen

^^^now in the running

Next time an advertising firm for their slogans. (j/k, I think it's fine that it went to Dylan)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSdsTkqerOw

And Dario Fo died. A mere coincidence?

Good point. Better ask The Widow Gray.

i like a few bob dylan albums

but a man of letters he is not

thanks nobel prize for firmly cementing your place in some back alley trash bin

cuck

without ideas or violence?

http://media3.giphy.com/media/oR5LcCn6pimI/giphy.gif

Don't you tell Henry James.

Nobel's got your prize

I like Bob Dylan. The Nobel committee made a strong choice imo. I hope they continue to award prizes to people I like.

Obama shoulda bombed at Budokan

― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, October 13, 2016 8:43 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Bob Dylan at Budokan rules btw.

I'm really excited about this. Bob Dylan deserves it.

Expanding the definition of "literature" is a good thing imo. Dylan certainly writes good words.

otm. The idea that "real" poetry is something written rather than performed is super ahistorical as well.

Otm. Just ask Homer and Jethro.

if people can't see the many parallels of homer and mr zimmerman humanity really has no chance

books get little enough exposure as it is without giving this award to dylan
I don't think "serious literature" or any of the possible nominees are in need of pity

entire idea of lyrics as poetry or literature is a fallacy
believe it's the other way around

anyway, I'm sure Bob is cheered up by this and it's the most popular Nobel prize in my time which is great - some people are complaining that next year it might as well be Stephen King, but that would be a great thing! pretentious modernist aesthetics are way done

The Homer comparison obviously isn't meant to elevate Dylan. The point is that sung poetry and poetry with musical accompaniment are way older than written poetry, and it's only a narrow definition of literature that would exclude the traditions of oral narrative poetry. So why exclude songwriters?

I suspect a certain gaggle of self-important Swedes would never see him as a worthy recipient

well cover me with icing and call me a cake, he won!

I'm sure Bob is cheered up by this and it's the most popular Nobel prize in my time which is great

Pinteresque silence.

weird to think the swedish academy thinks america's best writer is someone who dedicated his life to writing limerick-like verses with alternating rhyme schemes purely for music

sounds like exoticization of american culture

anyway, I'm sure Bob is cheered up by this and it's the most popular Nobel prize in my time which is great - some people are complaining that next year it might as well be Stephen King, but that would be a great thing! pretentious modernist aesthetics are way done

Stephen King is a better writer than Bob Dylan and would have been a better choice

he hasn't got as great tunes, though

http://static.oprah.com/images/obc/201004/slideshow/20100414-rock-bottom-remainders-stephen-king-band-600x411.jpg

hmm will have to look into that

Rock Bottom Remainders, right?

so what you're saying is woody allen might be inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame afterall

i don't care who wins any award but the idea that lyrics can't be "real" poetry or literature is some reactionary nonsense

stephen king is actually a really bad writer. i checked and everything.

mark e smith should get it next btw

Stephen King is a better writer than Bob Dylan and would have been a better choice

craziest thing ever said on this website?

he may have better penmanship

"He’s the heir, the unlikely offspring of Arthur Rimbaud and Walt Whitman. But he’s neither Rimbaud nor Whitman. He’s Bob Dylan. Is he a poet or a songwriter? The same answer applies: He’s Bob Dylan. I find myself falling back (again!) on Emily Dickinson’s remark: “If I feel physically as if the top of my head were taken off, I know that is poetry.” Dylan’s songs can make us feel that pleasurable shock of being partially decapitated by beauty."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/22/books/review/bob-dylan-musician-or-poet.html?_r=0

I tried to make sense of it: http://www.mtv.com/news/2943039/bob-dylan-deserves-that-nobel-prize/?curator=MusicREDEF

basically, he inspires people as much as - or more than - great poetry does and in similar ways. cuzza the poetic nature of his lyrics. he really is massive world-wide too. you can't really underestimate the effect he had on the world. even if you hate him.

has lex heard any of bob dylan's literature yet

I will admit dylan is a better writer than stephen king. Of course, so is my dog's vomit.

yeah: https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2012/sep/13/bob-dylan-tempest-lyrics xp

A he was given such a mediocre record for review

This idea that giving the prize to a bad beat poet modeling himself on Rimbaud and Whitman is somehow fresh because modernism is dead is insane. Yeah, Joyce was nearly hundreds of years ago, but Dylan's lyrics are still some oldfashioned/reactionary bullshit.

Well, not 'hundreds', but...

xp A shame he was***

reactionary?

or old fashioned?

He probably is a fascist tho'.

Nobody feels any pain
Tonight as I stand inside the rain
Everybody knows
That Baby’s got new clothes
But lately I see her ribbons and her bows
Have fallen from her curls
She takes just like a woman, yes, she does
She makes love just like a woman, yes, she does
And she aches just like a woman
But she breaks just like a little girl

Queen Mary, she’s my friend
Yes, I believe I’ll go see her again
Nobody has to guess
That Baby can’t be blessed
Till she sees finally that she’s like all the rest
With her fog, her amphetamine and her pearls
She takes just like a woman, yes, she does
She makes love just like a woman, yes, she does
And she aches just like a woman
But she breaks just like a little girl

It was raining from the first
And I was dying here of thirst
So I came in here
And your long-time curse hurts
But what’s worse
Is this pain in here
I can’t stay in here
Ain’t it clear that

I just can’t fit
Yes, I believe it’s time for us to quit
When we meet again
Introduced as friends
Please don’t let on that you knew me when
I was hungry and it was your world
Ah, you fake just like a woman, yes, you do
You make love just like a woman, yes, you do
Then you ache just like a woman
But you break just like a little girl