Who will be the next American to win the Nobel Prize for Literature?

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yeah: https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2012/sep/13/bob-dylan-tempest-lyrics xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

A he was given such a mediocre record for review

niels, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

This idea that giving the prize to a bad beat poet modeling himself on Rimbaud and Whitman is somehow fresh because modernism is dead is insane. Yeah, Joyce was nearly hundreds of years ago, but Dylan's lyrics are still some oldfashioned/reactionary bullshit.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

Well, not 'hundreds', but...

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

xp A shame he was***

niels, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

reactionary?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

or old fashioned?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link

He probably is a fascist tho'.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

Nobody feels any pain
Tonight as I stand inside the rain
Everybody knows
That Baby’s got new clothes
But lately I see her ribbons and her bows
Have fallen from her curls
She takes just like a woman, yes, she does
She makes love just like a woman, yes, she does
And she aches just like a woman
But she breaks just like a little girl

Queen Mary, she’s my friend
Yes, I believe I’ll go see her again
Nobody has to guess
That Baby can’t be blessed
Till she sees finally that she’s like all the rest
With her fog, her amphetamine and her pearls
She takes just like a woman, yes, she does
She makes love just like a woman, yes, she does
And she aches just like a woman
But she breaks just like a little girl

It was raining from the first
And I was dying here of thirst
So I came in here
And your long-time curse hurts
But what’s worse
Is this pain in here
I can’t stay in here
Ain’t it clear that

I just can’t fit
Yes, I believe it’s time for us to quit
When we meet again
Introduced as friends
Please don’t let on that you knew me when
I was hungry and it was your world
Ah, you fake just like a woman, yes, you do
You make love just like a woman, yes, you do
Then you ache just like a woman
But you break just like a little girl

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

transplendent!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link

Its not like T S Eliot does any better than this.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

lex was pretty otm

mookieproof, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

I wish Frederik had just said Dylan sucked

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

i don't care who wins any award but the idea that lyrics can't be "real" poetry or literature is some reactionary nonsense

If there is one thing certain about the definition of "real poetry" it is that it has always gone.

LL Cantante (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link

Dylan sucks! Especially his 'electric' period, which is what I assume the committee referenced in their statement.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link

lex was pretty otm

Where did the lex weigh in?

LL Cantante (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link

Why are you being wrong about his electric period (and it was electric no need of scare quotes)

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link

I already miss Morbz, at least he would've gotten my joek

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

what happened to Morbz?!

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

51'd

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

Over the US elections?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link

I guess? Admin Log thread says it was a "slow accumulation". I didn't see anything particularly egregious, just his usual crap.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link

I just sometimes use scare quotes around terms. His acoustic songs from his electric period suck as well.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

we are talking about Morbz now

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

"morbz"

mark s, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

also all this discussion should be on the de lillo thread, to annoy philip roth

mark s, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

wtf this is permanent?!

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 October 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link

yeah you get to keep them iirc

Har-@-Iago (wins), Thursday, 13 October 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

Dylan sucks! Especially his 'electric' period, which is what I assume the committee referenced in their statement.

Wooden poetry > electric poetry

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 October 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link

glad fred is as sensible about poetry as he is about u.s. politics

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 13 October 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link

fred is sub-hongro at best.

scott seward, Thursday, 13 October 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link

his sanctimonious schtick is almost Morbzian maybe we can make him nu-Morbz

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 October 2016 21:37 (seven years ago) link

I'll continue til I'm seventy, and then my posts will win the Nobel, and won't you all feel stupid.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 October 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link

No one will take the Nobel seriously by then we would have all grown-up

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 October 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

Also the Swedes are wellknown Danophobes, complicating my plan further.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 October 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

wtf this is permanent?!

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:01 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah you get to keep them iirc

― Har-@-Iago (wins), Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:03 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i lol'd

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 13 October 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link

Mookie I want you to know that I only fpd u itt because I know you are never gonna approach 51 and we're still cool ok

the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 October 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

I think the Nobel Prize Committee was just feeling kinda irrelevant, marginalized and down in the dumps and they needed something to cheer themselves up, so they made a pick where no one would say "huh, who's that?", a pick that would get people talking, a pick that provoked passion. Just watch, next year they'll pick whoever is the national poet of Kyrgyzstan.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 13 October 2016 23:54 (seven years ago) link

Still, weird for them to lower themselves to the level of Q Magazine

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 14 October 2016 08:57 (seven years ago) link

Being associated with Dylan elevates the Nobel Prize

Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Friday, 14 October 2016 09:01 (seven years ago) link

if anything in my opinion he is underrated and should get this prize again next year (for his painting)

mark s, Friday, 14 October 2016 09:02 (seven years ago) link

finally, alfred has truly atoned

difficult listening hour, Friday, 14 October 2016 09:03 (seven years ago) link

everyone must get atoned

Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Friday, 14 October 2016 09:04 (seven years ago) link

Any other known plagiarists won the Nobel before?

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 14 October 2016 09:10 (seven years ago) link

"Good writers borrow, great writers steal." - Nobel Prize winner T.S. Eliot

Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Friday, 14 October 2016 09:17 (seven years ago) link

if anything in my opinion he is underrated and should get this prize again next year (for his painting)

Lifetime Achievement Award for contribution to the motion pictures industry at next Oscars, gotta happen.

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Friday, 14 October 2016 09:18 (seven years ago) link

Fred has warmed me to Dylan winning this tbh

legitimate concerns about ducks (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 October 2016 09:45 (seven years ago) link

as long as my favourite poster LUMBAGO MUJO is still around i'm happy

nxd, Friday, 14 October 2016 10:04 (seven years ago) link

everyone must get atoned

Lol

Fustian of this ilx (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 October 2016 11:08 (seven years ago) link

if thomas pynchon doesn't win a grammy next year i will be soooo mad

fat fingered algorithm (rushomancy), Friday, 14 October 2016 11:47 (seven years ago) link


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