Heavens! Look at the Time: What Are You Reading During This Summer of 2017?

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^^^ great ,lovely book

At the other end of the scale, am thoroughly loving new Tove Jansson translation: Letters from Klara

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 28 August 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link

In the midst of Tana French, "Faithful Place" (Dublin Murder Squad #3), I love these so much

.oO (silby), Monday, 28 August 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link

Oooh new Jansson!

James, did you read the entire trilogy?

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 28 August 2017 11:39 (six years ago) link

p sure I've seen twitter backlash against that book from someone or other

.oO (silby), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link

p sure I've read people saying it was too short and too rushed on this board somewhere

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link

definitely remember a review saying she was far too uncritical about the right's take on gamergate, sjws, etc.

angelo irishagreementi (ledge), Monday, 28 August 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link

Gunter Grasse The Tin Drum
story of little Oskar and his toy Tin drum. Oskar refused to grow in size above the age of 3 and likes to shatter glass with ihis voice.
He relates teh story many years later from an insane asylum.
Been meaning to read thsi for years, started iit in '85 then lost the copy of it I had tehn. Found it in a charity shop a couple of months back and am now finally getting to read it.
d/lded the film too

Jeanette Leech Fearless.
Story of post-rock that I find interesting but keep finding doesn't agree with background i knew about at the time or leaves great big bits out.
I don't think she's ever going to be on eof my favourite writers but I think I'll keep going with this.
Might also mean I pick up a few recordings that I've had on the back burner for years.

Stevolende, Monday, 28 August 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link

definitely remember a review saying she was far too uncritical about the right's take on gamergate, sjws, etc.

― angelo irishagreementi (ledge), Monday, 28 August 2017 18:06 (yesterday) Permalink

One of the more least surprising criticisms tbf

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:50 (six years ago) link

finally finished nicola barker's darkmans -- and i think my first reaction is, "i have to read this again before i can write properly about it"

i found it very engaging: a brief passage in the unremarkable lives of fairly weird people (or vice versa) except for one quasi-supernatural event, which maybe isn't supernatural (tho if it isn't i don't really know what it is). barker's characters are all very vivid, and i liked the slightly mazy sense of "nothing actually ever happens here" interspersed w/a fvckton of driving around that is actual life in the country (it's set a little distance inland from winchelsea)

i've read a couple of hers before -- wide open and one of the very early collections -- but besides remembering i quite liked them (and a cut-in-half wasp in the opening scenes of wide open) i don;t really remember anything about them“ so i think i might go on a binge before i reread this (quite long) book

mark s, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 10:10 (six years ago) link

I finished the de Las Casas. It was unavoidably repetitive, given the subject matter, but it was brutal in its descriptions and he could not find terms strong enough to denounce the atrocities, although he used the strongest ones he knew, consigning the conquistadores and the provincial governors to eternal hellfire dozens of times over. No genocide of the twentieth century surpasses the genocide he describes, even though he inflates his numbers by about an order of magnitude.

After such a heavy dose of Vikings and conquistadores, I think I'll try for something a bit more sedate for my next book.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link

Anybody read this book? Looks promising, and "the spoof of Eliot in his most vatic mode" is a hoot:
http://wormwoodiana.blogspot.com/2017/07/at-club-of-bad-books-dylan-thomas-john.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Wormwoodiana+%28Wormwoodiana%29

dow, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

Oooh new Jansson!

James, did you read the entire trilogy?

Yes, though it was a while ago: I'd like to reread them soon, I think. It stays very good throughout.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 03:59 (six years ago) link

Am now reading Lydia Chukovskaya's 'Sofia Petrovna', slim novel written during Stalin's 1937 Purges about a naive woman whose loyal Communist Party son gets caught up in the mass trials and exiled

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 04:00 (six years ago) link

Finished The Bell by Iris Murdoch (surprisingly 'modern' treatment of homosexuality; at its best when edging into the gothic, tho' I was surprised at how frequently the novel flirts with farce; Murdoch, like Thomas Hardy, not afraid of grand and improbable narrative coincidence).

Now reading The Power and the Glory by Graham Greene.

Gulley Jimson (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 07:59 (six years ago) link

Power & The Glory is my shit; as always with Greene, his faith is not solace, it is a further complication. At one point

(SPOILER)

...the main character is in jail and discovers the one person he can feel the least sympathy for is the only other Christian in the room.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 08:34 (six years ago) link

^^^^^^

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 11:25 (six years ago) link

Finished The Bell by Iris Murdoch (surprisingly 'modern' treatment of homosexuality; at its best when edging into the gothic, tho' I was surprised at how frequently the novel flirts with farce; Murdoch, like Thomas Hardy, not afraid of grand and improbable narrative coincidence).

I'm fond of The Good Apprentice and Bruno's Dream but otherwise stare at those dusty hardcovers in their library wondering if anyone cares about her anymroe.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link

Yes, as I sat with The Bell on my journey into work, I wondered if I was the only person reading it in Britain at that particular moment (my paperback edition was a tie-in with a BBC TV adaptation, which also felt like a signifier of a vanished world). I guess she will survive as someone with a sad and interesting 'back story' who was once played by Kate Winslet; the social relations in her novel (lol the middle classes), and the way that philosophical questions are posed and ruminated on, already seem very dated, tho' for historians of a very narrow sliver of British society in the 20th century she will undoubtedly remain a useful resource.

Gulley Jimson (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 13:44 (six years ago) link

I stayed in a Oxfordshire B&B with a copy of The Bell last week. The first few pages were a lot of fun - I've never read any Murdoch but I never imagined her as "fun". I was tempted to read the rest but had a feeling like "Muriel Spark does this, but with a much shorter pagecount". That's probably unfair.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link

It felt like a very weary book for a 39-year-old to have written, though

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 13:54 (six years ago) link

lol otm

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link

Spark = certainty
Murdoch = doubt

(In truth, they don't really have a lot in common but I can see why the opening pages of The Bell might lead you to think that they do. And yes, Iris could usefully have learnt from Muriel's concision - but then, what author couldn't?)

Gulley Jimson (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link

Murdoch popped up a lot in At The Existentialist Café as the person who brought the philosophy to the UK.

Though I guess those guys are all heading towards "not read anymore" territory too.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

There is an obtrusive moral (as well as a vividly mad collie dog): we are but shadows, and our desires for particularised individuals are both illusory and predatory. In a sentence that might be labelled in the margin with ‘WAKE UP AND LISTEN’, Charles asks the rhetorical question ‘Can we not love each other at last in freedom, without awful possessiveness and violence and fear?’ The answer to that question for Murdoch was a resounding ‘no’. The reason for that answer does not lie in the nature of human beings or of the universe. It lies in her strange mixture of beliefs. She combined an implausibly unconstrained conception of human freedom ultimately drawn from Sartre with an implausibly depersonalising view of love drawn from Plato. Fusing those two things with the conventions of the realist novel was a profoundly interesting thing to have done, and for having attempted that fusion she certainly will always be thought to deserve a major part in the history of 20th-century fiction in Britain. But it made for plots in which people try to be free and find they are trapped in master-slave relationships, and in which being in love means being cruelly disloyal to more or less any particular person. Behind that recurrent dynamic in her fiction is a deep kind of sadness: she never quite recognised that it might be possible and even pleasurable just messily to get on with loving one person.

alimosina, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

Q: what if she hadn't had John Bayley there at the end?

alimosina, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link

just started

Lee Server "Robert Mitchum: "Baby, I Don't Care"
Lavie Tidhar, "Central Station"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

That Mitchum bio is fucking great, a mindblowing anecdote every other page. It made me buy some more stuff by the author, he has an Asian Pop Cinema primer that's really interesting.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link

10 pages in and yeah, does not disappoint!

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

There's an epic (not just long, but more eventful than many movies and novels) feature re Mitchum in Splendor In The Short Grass: The Grover Lewis Reader, a collection of journalism, fiction, poetry etc. I mentioned at some length on a previous What Are You Reading: this is from the set of The Friends of Eddie Coyle (and the office of Friends author-prosecutor George V. Higgins), Mitchum holding forth as expected, but also motormouth virtuosity from Peter Boyle, and the trusting lucidity of Mitchum's daughter Trina, then twenty, and making as much sense of her family life as she can, for the moment.

Machado De Assis, said to be forerunner of Borges, Marquez etc, also “funny as hell", says Harold Bloom---not the blurbmeister I expect such a line from---this might a be a good place to start, but I noticed one Verified Purchase complaint about perplexing typos (also want to check others in Oxford’s Library of South America):
https://www.amazon.com/Posthumous-Memoirs-Cubas-Library-America/dp/0195101707/ref=pd_sim_14_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=A6DSE6Q2N4FRKR86WW4J

Any other suggestions? Would rather not start with the one about the Unreliable Narrator who's freaked out about being cuckolded, given the amount of time I recently spent with Proust's narrator.

dow, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

I'm reading A Severed Head, thanks to Ward.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

Zama, by Antonio Di Benedetto, v much my shit:

A dead moneky, still whole, still undecomposed, drifted back and forth with a certain precision upon those ripples and eddies without exit. All his life at forest's edge had beckoned him to a journey, a journey he did not take until he was no longer a monkey but only a monkey's corpse. The water that bore him up tried to bear him away, but he was caught among the posts of the decreipt wharf and there he was, ready to go and not going. And there we were.

Ready to go and not going.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link

I'm reading A Severed Head, thanks to Ward.

I hope it's one of the good ones, Alfred! In his entertainingly gossipy book about Murdoch, A N Wilson suggests that she wrote a good one then a bad one, a good one, a bad one etc etc. I haven't delved sufficiently deeply into the IM oeuvre to judge the accuracy of this, but if The Bell is one of the good ones then A Severed Head wld be one of the bad ones. The opening precis in the wiki summary def reads like a parody:

Primary themes include marriage, adultery, and incest within a group of civilised and educated people. Set in and around London, it depicts a power struggle between grown-up middle-class people who are lucky to be free of real problems.

Gulley Jimson (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link

Any other suggestions? Would rather not start with the one about the Unreliable Narrator who's freaked out about being cuckolded, given the amount of time I recently spent with Proust's narrator.

I read the one you linked, remember enjoying it, though the "Brazilian Tristram Shandy" pitch I had gotten oversold it. People really like Dom Casmurro, but I'm guessing that's the cukold one you mention.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

lol, i was once describing an intricate situation in my social circle to my mum, and she said it sounded like a iris murdoch novel

a severed head was the only iris murdoch novel in the house

mark s, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link

I picked up Edith Wharton's Custom of the Country. It boldly and directly addresses issues of a woman's place in society that others were too timid to face in 1913. But I am not yet sure that this fact will be sufficient to keep my interest in 2017.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link

Was mildly curious about Murdoch's Letters published a couple of years ago, which that summary on wiki reminded me of. xps

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link

I picked up Edith Wharton's Custom of the Country. It boldly and directly addresses issues of a woman's place in society that others were too timid to face in 1913. But I am not yet sure that this fact will be sufficient to keep my interest in 2017.

― A is for (Aimless),

It's hilarious. She wrote her breeziest, most devastating prose to date for it.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link

Actually, Aimless, that description more accurately describes The Reef or The House of Mirth than TCOTC, which centers on the hotel culture populated by rapacious American nouveau riche.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link

Her heroine, so far, seems like a distant forerunner to the Kardashians.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 31 August 2017 00:21 (six years ago) link

yep!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 August 2017 00:25 (six years ago) link

fuck i gotta hurry up and read a book

j., Thursday, 31 August 2017 01:00 (six years ago) link

the hotel culture populated by rapacious American nouveau riche. Reminds me that somewhere I've got The Buccaneers, which revolves around five wealthy and ambitious American girls, their guardians and the titled, landed but impoverished Englishmen who marry them as the girls participate in the London Season. Thanks, Wiki! I haven't read it, but this also says it was unfinished at her death, endings tacked on:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Buccaneers Seems like it might be good enough anyway, since most things don't end well.

dow, Thursday, 31 August 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link

I've recently read James Baldwin's The Fire Next Time which is extraordinary and should be on school curricula, and Rosamond Lehmann's Invitation to the Waltz, which I loved, loved. Dumb prejudice has kept from so much brilliant literature, that I don't why I'm still surprised when things defy my expectations. This was minor in all the right ways, and rapturous at the same time - particularly Olivia Curtis's perception of the natural world. Can't wait to read more.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 1 September 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

Funnily enough I'm reading "The Weather In The Streets", the next Olivia Curtis novel, just now. I haven't read ITTW, and I'm both enjoying TWITS and finding it rather slow going (this latter more to do with me than the book I suspect).

Tim, Friday, 1 September 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link

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mark s, Friday, 1 September 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

You read my mind.

Tim, Friday, 1 September 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

Rosamond Lehmann's novels that don't involve psychic nonsense are great

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 2 September 2017 04:23 (six years ago) link

Though I always have incredible trouble remembering which one was called what

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 2 September 2017 04:23 (six years ago) link

read the news about the closure of the Buenos Aires Herald which led me to pick up Andrew Graham-Yooll's A State of Fear: Memories of Argentina's Nightmare. It's a series of extended anecdotes, effectively, covering the experiences of a journalist in the ten-year period between 1973 and 1983 from guerrilla violence, the return of Perón,, junta, los desaparecidos (the disappeared), exile and return, and is very good. He's a good writer in the journalistic style for a start, but it's also his depiction of where political violence sits in society, how it infects it and the mirroring of state and revolutionary violence that gives the books chapters a cumulative power.

It contains disgusting ironies for those who have accustomed themselves to the British national media:

.. the government was ridiculed in every headline, the bravado of the press an undignified retaliation for its toadying to a Perónism capable of instilling fear in the newsrooms just weeks before. There was an unabashed crowing at every stumble of a preposterous administration.

The disgusting irony being that yes, this is v reminiscent of the jackal mentality of the UK press, but of course that 'toadying' had been instilled by a fear as a journalist or editor of bombs in your desk, imprisonment serious death threats and warnings from the military and police, let alone running the other risk of being seen to favour the government by revolutionary groups. The toadying of our press is of course born of no such fear, but greed for proximity to power and laziness.

The best piece is The Hangover, which frames experiences of the extreme pre-junta violence (1100 dead from political violence in 1975, 60 in January 1976) with a heavy evening of beach-side drinking with his revolutionary friend Diego Muñíz Barreto:

He winced slightly as he passed on the description of the youth dropping, hit by the bullet. 'I've seen it before; people just drop or fall back in a small pile, like a shirt or a pair of trousers. There is no more convincing sign of death or serious damage than that drop. Death is not an athletic pirouette as in the cinema.'

On the return of Perón:

That was the day when everybody one had ever known seemed to have gone to the Ezeiza airport; old schoolfriends met there, carrying a pistol in each pocket, their own memory of their real name confused by the use of so many aliases. That was the day when some people went to watch, some to commit murder; a few men went to commit adultery; provincial aunts arrived on the free train service - special for that day - to look for lost nieces; and hundreds of citizens of all ages went in the belief that this was the day when all their problems would be solved.

That's a great piece of writing, I think.

on how violence infests and infects society:

During Mrs Perón's government, her secretary made kidnapping fashionable. it had previously been a reprehensible part of guerrilla fund-raising - which by the end of 1973 had totalled 170 million people abducted and released, in exchange for a ransom of 43 million US dollars. The police found kidnapping to be an effective form of retaliation. The secretary [described elsewhere as a 'man ridden with a fear of dying, an impotent diabetic, devoted to parapsychology'] set an example, using his own ministry as headquarters for a private army into which retired and active police officers were recruited ...

The fashion went all the way down the social line. In Munro, a working-class suburb, a woman with a babe in arms had the child snatched from her as she entered a grocery. Until she emptied her purse of her scant shopping money on the pavement, the infant was not returned.

Buenos Aires became a city roamed by unmarked cars, usually Ford Falcons, supplied on a fleet order to the police, but preferred by all for reliability at high speed and relatively low running cost...

Inside these cars sat men in dark glass and half open shirts, holding machine guns, wearing half a dozen chains around their necks, with St Christophers, crucifixes and Virgin Marys. They would sometimes travel home on the same train as I, or on the bus to the islands, late at night.. If there was a hint of recognition, their reaction was always the same; a glance over their dark glasses, a wink and a shake of the head was an order that greetings were not possible because recognition did not exist, and neither did casual acquaintance.

Who were these men? How did they wake up? With whom? Did they love? How? There did not have to be anything logical about them; there was no need to explain them; but it would be interesting just to know the full story of twenty-four hours of their lives.

The last quarter of the third bottle of wine was emptied into the tuco pan. Diego decided to put the tallarines on to cook and give his children supper.

So, yes, really good book. And for followers of the Is the Guardian worse than it used to be? thread:

I went to work at The Guardian, where liberals are conservatives who counsel readers to vote Labour

Fizzles, Saturday, 2 September 2017 10:20 (six years ago) link


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