yeah i am not as big on Douchelord Paul now that he is really leaning into it allhe kinda went back and forth through the book and I appreciated the few moments when Jessica was able to check him
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 October 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link
Welll---he earns his very own (better not say more, but he does)
― dow, Monday, 26 October 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link
i reread dune messiah for the first tme in probably 30 years if not more
there's more of it that i don't follow than i remember lol (the complex motivations that wd be delivered in whispered voice-overs if david lunch was filming it)
i still like its sense of small-scale intimate corrupt court biz and its semi-pointless gaudiness (the conspirators somehow remind me of an aladdin pantomime)
― mark s, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link
Just started reading/listening to 'Dune' on Audible. Wow. Why did I put this off so long??
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 16 September 2021 01:15 (three years ago) link
It's great that they have atmospheric music and a cast of voices to play the different parts. I'm also reading the book so I know how the hell you spell things like "Kwisatz Haderach"
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 16 September 2021 01:17 (three years ago) link
I'm currently about 3/4 through Children of Dune. Definitely an improvement over Dune Messiah, which I found kind of pointless. This has much more of a fleshed out plot and characters.
I keep thinking about how weird Herbert's writing style is. So much of these books consist of a pair of characters talking to each other in riddles. At times, it can be a bit difficult to see if it has meaning or just sounds deep.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 16 September 2021 02:01 (three years ago) link
dune messiah sucks
if you're 3/4 through 'children' and still engaged, then you have passed the . . . test
'god emperor' is intensely weird but worthwhile
five and six are more like standard SF (but i like them)
the books by his son are astonishingly terrible; you and i could do better over slack
― mookieproof, Thursday, 16 September 2021 02:43 (three years ago) link
my name is matttkkkk and I approve this message ^
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 16 September 2021 02:59 (three years ago) link
I read God Emperor about 30+ years ago and recall liking it, so I'll probably read again. Have never read 5 and 6, we'll see if I have patience for them.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 16 September 2021 03:56 (three years ago) link
I mean... I'm new to all this. I always assumed it would be very dry, which I guess it would be if it weren't so well realised? This is probably an obvious and well-worn observation but you can see where Star Wars and Game of Thrones and any number of other sci-fi/fantasy universes got their ideas from.
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 16 September 2021 15:03 (three years ago) link
i finally got around to Dune at the start of the pandemic & loved it & would love more of it. everyone seems to agree that Messiah is bad & not worth the effort - would i be lost at sea if i skipped it and went right to Children?
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 16 September 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link
very probably.
also mark s. likes it iirc. and it's relatively short
― mookieproof, Thursday, 16 September 2021 22:12 (three years ago) link
it's a quick read and it sets up the events of Children of Dune, it just feels a bit pointless on its own, there isn't much of a story there
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 16 September 2021 22:21 (three years ago) link
Pinky nail summaries of all 24 books to date, in chrono order, no more spoilery than nec.:https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/g38012512/dune-books-in-order/
― dow, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 17:12 (two years ago) link
Dune is the ur-text of modern science fiction. It's rare to find a book that draws, successfully, on so many disparate ideas to form a coherent narrative.
Imho, the whole series is untouchable through God Emperor. He could have ended the entire saga there and left everyone satisfied. I understand that bills gotta be paid, though, and the last two books are not unreadable, they just don't add much, if anything, to the story.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 17:25 (two years ago) link
("nail" makes me think of Martin Luther)
― youn, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 18:15 (two years ago) link
just finished dune messiah and it was indeed as bad & pointless as i had been led to believe. after the epic sweep of dune this one felt weirdly stagebound, a tale of the galactic struggle for control of infinite cosmic spacetime that takes place entirely in like 3 different rooms, with what feels like only about 8 speaking parts altogether. but ironically i'm kind of more interested in getting to children of dune now just based on the prospect that it will surely be better than this one, and help me feel like the time spent on this one wasnt wasted.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 20 May 2022 16:40 (two years ago) link
no its good shut up
― mark s, Friday, 20 May 2022 17:15 (two years ago) link
Red Nation, radical indigenous presenters look at the Dune film from last year in terms of colonialism etc. https://open.spotify.com/episode/3eF0TJNCvx5rrrk0E4NwS6?si=49d64aed6f4348c1
― Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 12:38 (two years ago) link
Leto II has total recollection of the memories of all his ancestors, which means that he remembers watching The Phantom Menace in theaters.— Mia Moore (@StopTweetingMia) October 12, 2022
― mark s, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link
thought this made more sense here than the film threads on ILEhttps://fontsinuse.com/uses/43515/the-mystery-of-the-dune-font
― nashwan, Sunday, 29 January 2023 19:52 (one year ago) link
“Yueh! Yueh! Yueh!” goes the refrain. “A million deaths were not enough for Yueh!”
some ilx0r needs to create a song out of this imo
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 09:03 (nine months ago) link
Yueh Yuehohnohe gotta goAy ya hya chouhada
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 10:00 (nine months ago) link
heyyuehbaron’s got your wife nowdon’t you worry yueh
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 10:25 (nine months ago) link
🐦[Leto II has total recollection of the memories of all his ancestors, which means that he remembers watching The Phantom Menace in theaters.— Mia Moore (@StopTweetingMia) October 12, 2022🕸]🐦
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 10:29 (nine months ago) link
a thing i like abt the acronym CHOAM is that what it stands for is really no less inscrutable = Combine Honnete Ober Advancer Mercantiles
― mark s, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:55 (seven months ago) link
Yeah that's David Foster Wallace level
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 11:07 (seven months ago) link
found scribbled in blood on a scrap of paper as he emerged from a multi-week spice bender, soon after he found himself checked in at the group home
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 13:38 (seven months ago) link
the word "honnete" in my corporate acronym has people asking a lot of questions already answered by the word "honnete"
― mark s, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 13:42 (seven months ago) link
Kyle MacLachlan and Frank Herbert: The Boys pic.twitter.com/xcGURGQ4IL— Patrick (@Pilgrim945) August 25, 2021
― mookieproof, Thursday, 22 February 2024 00:53 (seven months ago) link
uniting eastern and western WA
― bae (sic), Thursday, 22 February 2024 07:29 (seven months ago) link
a prime up-the-arse corner candidate
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 22 February 2024 09:22 (seven months ago) link
in the introduction to Dune Messiah, Brian Herbert claims, unprompted, that Frank Herbert would have been one of the all time great US Presidents (?) had he decided to do that instead of becoming a writer— caroline (going woman) (@soonrightaway) February 24, 2024
caroline (going woman) @soonrightaway: in the introduction to Dune Messiah, Brian Herbert claims, unprompted, that Frank Herbert would have been one of the all time great US Presidents (?) had he decided to do that instead of becoming a writer
― mark s, Saturday, 24 February 2024 16:12 (six months ago) link
dune messiah continues to deliver
― mark s, Saturday, 24 February 2024 16:13 (six months ago) link
Now I can't get the image of a sandworm with Trump's face on it out of my mind.
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Saturday, 24 February 2024 17:51 (six months ago) link
spice force
― cozen itt (wins), Saturday, 24 February 2024 17:53 (six months ago) link
Make Arrakis Great Again
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Saturday, 24 February 2024 17:56 (six months ago) link
^^ https://www.tiktok.com/@loloverruled/video/7342915568074247454
― circles, Sunday, 10 March 2024 14:37 (six months ago) link