Bonfires In The Sky: What Are You Reading, Winter 2021-22?

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I read Far from the Madding Crowd two weeks ago, the last of the major ones; I'd saved it. My least favorite, seems like The Woodlanders covers this territory with more pathos and skill.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 15:44 (two years ago) link

I had to do Return of the Native for my A level; definitely killed Hardy as an author for me, such a dull choice for teenagers.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 16:01 (two years ago) link

It's such an exciting-sounding book title too!

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 16:07 (two years ago) link

The Egdon Heath section is leisurely in the most indulgent way.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 16:08 (two years ago) link

As You Were by Elaine Feeney (What does "soz" mean?)

youn, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 17:37 (two years ago) link

Short for "sorry", I expect.

Tim, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 17:39 (two years ago) link

(If it's in the context of something like"soz, but I haven't got a clue")

Tim, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 17:40 (two years ago) link

great just got the Mark Lanegan memoir from the library.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link

I have almost finished my review of 'I Wished.' It took me a while to figure out how to structure it, and now I just have to conclude it in a satisfactory manner– final sentences are always hair-pullers for me. It's about 500 words longer than they want, but I think I've figured out a way that they can publish an abridged version in the print magazine and the full version online.

In any case, I think I'm going to swerve toward Prynne's latest chapbook next. I'm waiting on hearing about enrollment for a high school elective course I might teach, so I might become quickly sidetracked into prepping for that, but a nice Prynne chap to distract is always good.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 19:10 (two years ago) link

Thanks, Tim. That sounds right. I've figured out that press means something like cupboard or pantry or cabinet.

youn, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 23:42 (two years ago) link

in a similar vein, the thing that i hadn't noticed before but which has come up a lot in the last year is 'deal' as a type of cheap wood. i must've read 6 things recently where people had deal tables or other furniture.

koogs, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 01:59 (two years ago) link

Best of luck on both fronts, tables.
Maigret In The South? He hates the South: Maigret and the Informer takes him there on duty, and the Sun makes a beeline for his nose as soon as he gets off the train, and he has to make his way through a disgustingly tawdry, carnivalesque vector to drink and drink and drink his way through hick tourist bars, on stake-out (a murdered Parisian restaurateur is returning to his hometown of Bandol for grand funeral, whoopee). Maigret does make it back to good grey Paris rain and Madame M.'s food service, but hard to imagine him spending much more time down there. I'll have to read it.

dow, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 02:13 (two years ago) link

i must've read 6 things recently where people had deal tables or other furniture.

Even more frequently I read mentions of baize (most often green) as a cheap cloth covering on various items, including doors. I have never encountered the term outside a book and have no idea if I have ever laid eyes on it

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 02:28 (two years ago) link

pool and snooker tables and card tables are covered with baize, is just that felt stuff.

koogs, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 05:46 (two years ago) link

I have heard of deal tables many times, but don't think I knew this was a kind of wood.

I cannot play snooker at all, but I think that most people in the UK automatically know that 'green baize' is what covers those tables.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 11:47 (two years ago) link

Read Mark Lanegan up to Roskilde and finding it a really good read.
He is pretty scathing. I know Gary Lee Conner disputed this version so wonder what the reality was.
Also wasn't aware to what extent Lanegan disliked the near authentic garape psych cloning thing of the early records. Or where he started having more control. Did enjoy what I had heard of that early stuff.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 11:50 (two years ago) link

I love the pinefox's Synge biographer so much

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 13:02 (two years ago) link

as for me, I'm reading Radiant Terminus by Antoine Volodine, a writer with whom I am completely smitten -- this'll be my fourth of his (among two of his several heteronyms; my first was Eleven Sooty Dreams by Manuela Draeger, who is a personage within his career-long fiction of the post-exotic), and I almost never do the "just reading as much of this author's stuff as I can" thing, though in the past few years I've been more inclined to stick with a name for a few books. Radiant Terminus approaches trad-novel at points -- there's a revenge narrative that's easy to follow, but Volodine complicates it as much as he can, which is a lot, within the overarching conceit of post-exoticism -- as I understand it, all?? of his works are to be understood as texts recited by prisoners in a vast complex who have themselves invented a number of names and situations by way of memorializing themselves & their movement, which was crushed by an authoritarian state. that framing is precedent within Radiant Terminus, which references post-exoticism as a by-now-ancient phenomenon, and several of its authors and texts are, here, old names in dusty books...anyhow Volodine's whole deal is very complex and the books are WONDERFUL, even when you feel completely lost they're just an utter treat. I've even gotten to the point where, when the narrative does seem to be veering trad, I'm a little disappointed -- I've come to relish the prismatic complexity of the several states of being you have to hold as you read this stuff. Still, it's pretty clear why this is a big book -- the notion of realties-within-realities is so foregrounded here that it sets the stage for what Volodine will continue to do. (This one was written in 2014, it took three years to get to the English edition.)

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 13:11 (two years ago) link

ELEVEN SOOTY DREAMS sounds like a new UK children's TV series featuring famous glove-puppet bear.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 13:27 (two years ago) link

Maigret In The South? He hates the South

In this one (or Liberty Bar, the first of two in the same volume), he keeps on wanting to sit drinking in bars and enjoying the sunshine instead of solving the case.

ledge, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 13:38 (two years ago) link

I don't really enjoy the Maigret books - I find their mysteries a little facile - but I always enjoy the "Maigret timewastes" portions of the books, where he goes home to bed instead of working on the case, or pretends to do nothing but is really waiting for the murderer to make a mistake and out themselves (although this never happens - someone new always gets murdered instead).

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 17:43 (two years ago) link

There's a chapter in one where he takes the train to Cannes or Nice to do some background research and has a completely miserable time.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 17:44 (two years ago) link

It all adds up to the sense that "Maigret always gets his man (or woman)" but perhaps he could just be a bit fucking quicker about it

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 17:46 (two years ago) link

Wow---he's come a long way, baby. In the one I read, he fucken hated Southern white trash sunshine radiation and not solving the case---drinking in bars was a means to that end/at least it kept him going.

Joan, you had me at Eleven Sooty Dreams by Manuela Draeger, who is a personage within his career-long fiction of the post-exotic).

tomalin's biography is in the monthly deals this month as well, so maybe i'l grab that, find out what did for new year's eve in 1899 (her dickens biog was full of stupid details) This can be useful, for carving out your own take on the subject, and anyway appeals to me, kind of reassuring, like recent New Yorker essay on Elizabeth Hardwick mentioned, unfavorably, recent bio's mention, for instance, that Hardwick got cable to follow big tennis tournament, think it was Billie Jean King: if I'm going to read about a novelist, I like the range of activity a novel night involve, also good to know that she didn't actually spend all her mind pining for Lou I mean Lowell.
But mainly I like the totalism grab bag as raw material for my own speculations.

dow, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link

"December [1838] brought a great round of social activities, including the forming of the Trio Club with Forster and Ainsworth, which meant more dinners together. He dined with Elliotson on 27 December, Ainsworth on the 29th, Talfourd on the 30th and gave a dinner at home for New Year’s Eve with Forster, Ainsworth and Cruikshank."

Zzzzzzz

koogs, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 20:13 (two years ago) link

Thank for sharing that, Joan Crawford Lives Chachi. I will be looking into these heteronyms

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 20:13 (two years ago) link

as wood (for tables etc) deal is pine, so-named after a now archaic unit of measure (which the pine was traded in): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deal_(unit)

mark s, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 22:04 (two years ago) link

Maigret In The South? He hates the South

Absurdly, this made the end of Absalom, Absalom! jump into my head:

"Now I want you to tell me just one thing more. Why do you hate the South?"
"I dont hate it," Quentin said, quickly, at once, immediately. "I dont hate it," he said. I dont hate it, he thought, panting in the cold air, the iron New England dark: I dont. I dont! I dont hate it! I dont hate it!"

I feel like there's some kind of Columbo-meets-Maigret joke here that doesn't work at all.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 3 March 2022 04:12 (two years ago) link

I recently finished the new Sally Rooney, Beatiful World Where Are You. The story runs on two parallel tracks, mostly through letters exchanged between friends: one a writer (seemingly a stand-in for Rooney) staying at a rented house in the west of Ireland, and the other her friend who works for some artsy organization in Dublin. Both are a few years out of college but still fairly young. Not surprisingly, there are also parallel romances (or perhaps just hook-ups? we must read on to find out): the writer with a young man she just met on Tinder who works at an Amazon warehouse and is, shall we say, not a big reader, and the Dublin friend with a friend she's known since they were kids (he a few years older than she). The sex scenes alone are probably worth the price of admission: the awkward first time with someone you don't know that well, phone sex between "friends", etc. I can't think of another contemporary author who writes sex scenes as well, where the intimacy reveals and propels the characters and the dynamic of their relationship. Now I'm reading Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula Le Guin, which imagines sexual relations on a distant planet, between humanoid creatures who are asexual most of the time but go through a fertile period when they can assume either sex.

o. nate, Thursday, 3 March 2022 04:27 (two years ago) link

I properly finished Maurice Bourgeois's biography of Synge. A marvellously old-fashioned experience. In 1913 he's still writing 'we would fain...', and 'Nay, we would even say ...'

On p.235 he states of Synge on his deathbed: 'Sometimes he was full of fun and in good spirits would converse for hours at a time, speaking on woman suffrage and other modern subjects'. The implication from context is that this is to the nurses at the nursing home.

This is a good case of the elusiveness of biographical fact. In INVENTING IRELAND (1995) Declan Kiberd wrote 'he repeatedly sought to engage the nurses on the topic of feminism' (p.175). Very interesting! But no footnote, no source for this. Years after reading that, I read W.J. McCormack's FOOL OF THE FAMILY: A LIFE OF J.M. SYNGE (2000) which repeated the claim, with a footnote citing ... citing ... Declan Kiberd, INVENTING IRELAND, p.175. Oh dear. So what was the original evidence?

Well, here's Bourgeois, giving some credence to the basic claim, in 1913 - only 4 years after Synge died. Still, he doesn't say that Synge 'repeatedly' talked on the topic, nor that it was he, not the nurses, who insisted on it.

There may well be an ur-text, another memoir behind this, from which Bourgeois has drawn the claim. After all, he probably didn't talk to the nurses himself - though his research is tremendous.

Finally, another corkingly daft and insensitive line from Bourgeois, having just written an impressive 250-page about Synge, and recorded the pathos of his death at 38:

it seems unlikely that his writings, which form such a complete, self-consistent body of work, would have admitted of such further developments as might have brought out fresh aspects of his art. Had he lived longer he might have repeated himself and wearied his admirers.

That's OK then. Probably a good thing cancer took him!

the pinefox, Thursday, 3 March 2022 09:40 (two years ago) link

o. nate (xp): Thank you for reminding me I want to read this. (still reading Feeney; waiting for Weike Wang's new book to arrive through interlibrary loan)

youn, Thursday, 3 March 2022 09:42 (two years ago) link

Now I'm reading Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula Le Guin, which imagines sexual relations on a distant planet, between humanoid creatures who are asexual most of the time but go through a fertile period when they can assume either sex.

i.e. a Sally Rooney novel.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 March 2022 10:36 (two years ago) link

lol

imago, Thursday, 3 March 2022 10:38 (two years ago) link

Don't dare compare St. Ursula to that awful lit-fic crap.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 3 March 2022 12:11 (two years ago) link

Poor Sally, I’m sure she’ll be devastated she’s lost the table vote.

mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 3 March 2022 12:38 (two years ago) link

That’s OK then. Probably a good thing cancer took him!

Genuinely loled at this btw, have enjoyed your review of this book even though I think the claim about noble suffering and the lack of theatre is a load of shit.

mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 3 March 2022 12:52 (two years ago) link

What I vaguely remember from Sally Rooney: (1) poverty and class in a society where these are important; (2) the weird effects of globalization, especially in the U.K. and Ireland; (3) hunger.

youn, Thursday, 3 March 2022 15:36 (two years ago) link

also, milk containers (specifically, when people used to drink from them)
baize featured prominently but distinctly in the last painting of sara de vos (highly recommended)

youn, Thursday, 3 March 2022 15:56 (two years ago) link

I read Adam Thorpe's On Silbury Hill, which is equal parts memoir, fuzzy explorations of pre-history and a meditation on time and memory - all inspired by the astonishing landscapes and neolithic artefacts around Marlborough in the UK. It was a bit ragged to be honest but Thorpe does a nice job of digging at the heart of what is so beguiling about the hill itself. Honestly, if you haven't been there, you should go.

Now, like Stevolende, I'm reading the Lanegan book. It's pretty punishingly grim, tbh.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 3 March 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link

I liked Normal People when I read it, though didn't improve when it came back through my head later, as some do--still think some of the settings and especially characters, like the bad boyfriend whose father is a financial villain, and their ho friend, were wasted opportunities, just sketched-in, also would liked to have seen more the good boyfriend's mother, and the barely mentioned backstory of her marriage (maybe some of this is better developed in the TV series). Recent story in The New Yorker, which I'm afraid was an excerpt of Beautiful World Where Are You, and seemed like most tiresome soap opera tendencies of NP all run together, only worse (sex scenes affected by context)---but I'll check this latest if I see it, ditto the debut.

dow, Thursday, 3 March 2022 21:25 (two years ago) link

Thorpe book sounds v. appealing, thanks!

dow, Thursday, 3 March 2022 21:27 (two years ago) link

xp yeah I haven’t read the new one yet but your post is a more interesting and considered tame than babyishly dismissing it as “awful litfic crap”.

I thought, and still think, this piece about the cultural context was very good: https://www.gawker.com/culture/sally-rooney-is-irish

mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 3 March 2022 21:38 (two years ago) link

*take not tame

mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 3 March 2022 21:38 (two years ago) link

If it's on the NYT Bestseller list and is "attracting crowds to events," I tend to avoid it. In literary matters, I'm an unapologetic snob, if you don't like it then mind your own business.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 3 March 2022 22:26 (two years ago) link

Oh I see, so have you actually read any of her books?

If you don’t like people commenting on your being an unapologetic snob then feel free to keep your pretentious opinions to yourself.

mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 3 March 2022 23:02 (two years ago) link

I read Conversations with Men just before the pandemic, and her choreography of the ambisexual roundelay was chicly effective -- as if for an HBO series.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 March 2022 23:06 (two years ago) link

CONVERSATIONS WITH FRIENDS

the pinefox, Friday, 4 March 2022 09:10 (two years ago) link

Now reading: typescript of an unpublished science fiction novel by Jonathan Lethem.

the pinefox, Friday, 4 March 2022 09:11 (two years ago) link

You don’t say.

Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 March 2022 09:51 (two years ago) link

Mark Lanegan Sing Backwards And Weep
It's taken me until now to get to read this. Wish it was in more celebratory times not 2 weeks after he died. Judging by what he says in here it may be a bit surprising that he lasted as long as he did. I hadn't realised what a wretched life he was living in the 90s.
But this is a great, well written memoir and shame there won't be a second volume of it. There is a book covering him going through Covid in Killarney where he later died. Such a shame.
Also hadn't realised how little he was into the music he was making with Screaming Trees prior to Sweet Oblivion since it struck me as pretty good. Though a bit surprising how 'authentic' it sounded which appears to be something he disdained or at least the links to the mid 80s and after garage scene.
I'm glad we have what we do anyway.
I hope he did get to like himself a lot more in the last couple of decades he lived for after the end of this book. I know that he got married and i think his ex-wife was with him when he was on Other Voices in 2004. I think she was already ex but not sure about when that ended. Anyway haunting appearance.

Musical Truth Jeffrey Boakye
A children's book on the black British experience as related to 25 songs from teh late 50s to the 2010s. I hadn't realise dit wasa children's book when I ordered it as an interlibrary loan. Got it home and started reading it at which point it became clear, I'm not 100% sure what age group it is aimed at beyond that. I do like teh way it tackles the related subjects and hope this is a direction being followed on a more widespread basis.
I wound up watching a webinar with him and several other writers present because it featured Angela Saini who I really like.
I think he has some more adult orientated books o I think I will look further into his work

The Inconvenient Indian Thomas King
Book on the interelations between Native Americans and mainstream settler colonial European etc population looking at representation in media etc and how treaties have been seriously abused.
I think it is a really good book I had had it recommended several times before getting it for Xmas . So I really should have it read by now and started on the other book i got in the same package Jeffrey Ostler's Surviving Genocide. I'm not organising my reading properly probably. So been reading through books i got from teh library to the exclusion of these ones.

Toni Morrison The Bluest Eye
Short novel by black author about a young black girl who would love to become white.
I've read the first chapter and it is pretty deliciously written.

Stevolende, Friday, 4 March 2022 10:35 (two years ago) link


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