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Because the old one got too long and Shakey couldn't load it. A sequel to rolling fantasy, science fiction, speculative fiction &c. thread

fgtbaoutit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 November 2014 00:51 (three years ago) Permalink

Hoping to report on Report On Probability A in the near future.

fgtbaoutit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 November 2014 00:54 (three years ago) Permalink

Gregory Benford: Artifact --- archaeologists uncover lethal alien thingy in Mycenean burial ground. Not brilliantly written, but interesting enough to continue with. Entertainingly, for a book written in 1985, it contains early 21st-century Greece falling apart because of a worldwide economic depression/recession

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 13 November 2014 01:11 (three years ago) Permalink

lol @ thread title

Report on Probability A - was idly thinking of re-reading that recently, I remember being p underwhelmed by its central formal conceit. I expected it to be much loopier and disorienting. In general, Aldiss is v hit or miss for me (something I've read Moorcock attribute to his needing a good editor/manager, someone to set goals/targets for him). Cryptozoic is undreadable, for example, but I consider Barefoot in the Head from just a year or two later a masterpiece.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:20 (three years ago) Permalink

undreadable
Brian W. "Crazy Baldhead" Aldiss

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:27 (three years ago) Permalink

Read rep on prob a at least twice a long time ago, didn't know anything about last year at marienbad but enjoyed the formal conceit and the last few pages made me want to high five him.

thread title capitalisation and constant reminder of that dunderheaded heinlein story is gonna make me rmde to eternity.

ledge, Friday, 14 November 2014 10:03 (three years ago) Permalink

agonising as it may be for ledge, this restart is v handy for me, as I meant to start following the previous thread after the initial poll that prompted it, and then i didn't and then it got so long that my approach of 'I must read all of it before participating' turned into hiding from the thread and not ever talking about some of my favourite strands of writing :/

Fizzles, Friday, 14 November 2014 10:41 (three years ago) Permalink

Sorry for thread title, ledge, I did it to annoy Shakey, not you.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 November 2014 11:17 (three years ago) Permalink

You are not the only one who couldn't read prior thread, Fizzles. Was constantly using the search feature or wondering where something was only to learn it was further upthread.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 November 2014 11:26 (three years ago) Permalink

Still slogging through the last of Atwood's Maddadam trilogy. The third book is piss-weak, slow going and uninteresting, and her stylistic flaws seem to show through more and more. Because it's sci-fi there's an attempt to be, I dunno, edgy or hardboiled or something and it's about as convincing as one of your parents trying on an ill-fitting leather jacket. Bit of a shame really, becaus eI enjoyed the first two books (Oryx & Crake / Year of the Flood) immensely.

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Friday, 14 November 2014 11:34 (three years ago) Permalink

I think I forgotten to say on the previous thread that another one of the best features on fantasticfiction site is it shows you the blurbs writers have done for other people's books.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 14 November 2014 14:35 (three years ago) Permalink

Cool I'll just keep pasting in stuff from prev thread everytime somebody mentions something already discussed thoroughly, as I kept etc on prev thread its own self. Speaking of blurbs, here's a good 'un from a recent library shop score, Wandering Stars, An Anthology of Jewish Fantasy and Science Fiction, edited by Jack Dann, Introduction by Isaac Asimov:
I loved Wandering Stars, and why not? Two of the thirteen stories are from Orbit, and I would have bought seven of the rest if I had got my hands on them first. If the book had nothing else going for it, it would still be a triumph to get William Tenn to write the great story he was talking about in the fifties.--Damon Knight
(Also a blurb from Leo Rosten, who wrote The Education of Hyman Kaplan, about an immigrant who tends to take over English classes with his own versions and visions of language and lit.)

dow, Friday, 14 November 2014 15:47 (three years ago) Permalink

Contents (some of these titles are corny, but the few stories I kinda remember from mags etc were good):

Introduction:
"Why Me?" by Isaac Asimov

William Tenn: "On Venus, Have We Got A Rabbi"

Avram Davidson: "The Golem"

Isaac Asimov: "Unto the Fourth Generation"

Carol Carr: "Look, You Think You've Got Troubles"

Avram Davidson: "Goslin Day"

Robert Silverberg: "The Dybbuk of Mazel Tov IV"

Horace L. Gold: "Trouble With Water"

Pamela Sargent: "Gather Blue Roses"

Bernard Malamud: "The Jewbird"

Geo. Alec Effinger: "Paradise Lost"

Robert Sheckley: "Street of Dreams, Feet of Clay"

Isaac Bashevis Singer: Jachid and Jechidah"

Harlan Ellison: "I'm Looking For Kadah"

dow, Friday, 14 November 2014 16:00 (three years ago) Permalink

I just looked at a full schedule of all the books on SF Gateway (presumably this is the ebook titles). It's 2599 books!
Cant remember where I found the document.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 14 November 2014 21:16 (three years ago) Permalink

UK or US or other?

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 November 2014 21:39 (three years ago) Permalink

Probably UK

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 14 November 2014 22:02 (three years ago) Permalink

Considerably fewer in US

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 November 2014 22:12 (three years ago) Permalink

Mark Sinker makes some connections (for inst., between Gothic and Futurist lit) new to me, after viewing the National Gallery's William Morris exhibition: http://dubdobdee.co.uk/2014/11/02/the-wood-beyond-the-world-or-this-bus-has-a-new-destination/

dow, Sunday, 16 November 2014 14:51 (three years ago) Permalink

Thanks. Surely the friend mentioned there is an ILB poster.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 14:59 (three years ago) Permalink

RMDE at that this thread title too, as well as the terrible screenname I had at the time. Don't know why I did it. I guess the door dilated and I just had to go through it.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 14:59 (three years ago) Permalink

before I forget: this Brazilian writer recently died and Clute tweeted link to very appealing SFE overview of his work:
http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/carneiro_andre

dow, Sunday, 16 November 2014 15:51 (three years ago) Permalink

Ooh! I mean RIP but yknow

Οὖτις, Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:02 (three years ago) Permalink

Thanks. Often hard to find something like that in translation or even not in translation. Wonder if he had anything in that Cosmos Latinos anthology? Don't seem to recognize the name.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:03 (three years ago) Permalink

(xp, obv)

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:03 (three years ago) Permalink

okay, "Brain Transplant."

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:05 (three years ago) Permalink

I've only read Brain Transplant but would def read more provided stuff gets translated

Οὖτις, Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:06 (three years ago) Permalink

Hey James, tried to reply to yr kind email, but it won't let us reply directly, and the webmail form has the worst captcha evah, I refreshed it a half-dozen times, got rejected over and over and over and over and over and over. So I'll reply here: thanks, you keep up the good posts too!

dow, Monday, 17 November 2014 02:06 (three years ago) Permalink

has this been posted already?
http://www.luminist.org/archives/SF/

Οὖτις, Monday, 17 November 2014 16:18 (three years ago) Permalink

Laird Barron wrote a parody of the horror/weird scene, it included jabs at Mark Samuels in particular (however serious they were intended, nobody knows), there was some discussion of this at the Ligotti forum and eventually that resulted in Justin Isis writing hilarious rap battle lyrics.
Several spread across this page
http://www.ligotti.net/showthread.php?t=6815&page=9

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 17 November 2014 23:35 (three years ago) Permalink

The xpost link to Mark Sinker's William Morris exhibit etc is back online this afternoon. Read that before reading further, for max headroom:
When his fellow visitor/ILXor xyzzz (sic?) said it was down this morning, I told Mark, and we had this email exchange:

Mark:oh cheers, yes, the guy who hosts it (on a laptop in his spare room) sometimes has to reboot :)

me: OK, will keep in mind. I fairly recently got into Morris and those Kipling stories (if you meant "As Easy As A-B-C" and "With The Night Mail," for inst), but hadn't made the connection. Now I'm also thinking of Blade Runner's Earth, a mostly abandoned First World-as-Third World backstreet, where it rains all night in perpetual eco-ruins; also PKD's original setting, more like a slightly-future-to-us Beijing, with workers scuttling between buildings, hoping not to be singed/cancer-seeded by the invisible sun. Some later Tiptree stories too, and Mary Shelley's The Last Man, for me amazing as Frankenstein.
Probably some of Kim Stanley Robinson's later novels too, though they've gotten so long I may never know (early The Wild Shore was fine, best I recall). But I recently saw a mention of "cli-fi" as emerging trend, so we may get sick of the whole thing even before it all comes true.

Mark: Yes, Kipling’s mum was related to a famous Pre-Raphaelite in the Morris circle — his dad of course ran the Lucknow museum — and when he was boarded in England as kid (not the notorious time that became Baa Baa Black Sheep) he stayed with the De Morgans, who were also minor slebs in Arts&Crafts terms: William DM a high-end potter and tile designer (he did the fireplaces for the Titanic iirc!)

Yrs partly (Kipling's)sic-fi stories, but also the stories about ships and trains and cars — esp.the ones from the perspective of the train or ship. The ones abt cars are really intriguing: he was totally an early adopter.

me: Didn't know any of that, thanks! Will def have to read more Kipling----recently found one of his I mentioned in an anth w HG's "The Land Ironclads"---getting back into Wells, and suspect the Eloi and Morlocks might have gotten Morris (and Tolkien) going. Finally read The Lord Of The Rings, and feel like I totally/mostly get it! Specific associations re the "not allegorical, dammit!" Ring/magic can shift, but lately I think of fossil fuels as thee ancient source of modern marvels, source which must now be sacrificed to/for any chance of future lives, bearable legacy But once that ship sails off into the autumn sea, it sails, buddy. So the book is a tragedy, but fairly often experienced as a comedy, in a commedia sense: fascination of the vivid details, robustly acted out, with some mortal meat joy, and other meat conditions.

dow, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 19:08 (three years ago) Permalink

William DM a high-end potter and tile designer (he did the fireplaces for the Titanic iirc!

De Morgan Centre looking for a foothold. (Those are Tolkien's ships, right there)

alimosina, Thursday, 20 November 2014 01:24 (three years ago) Permalink

Just heard "Dream Weaver" on the radio. Wasn't there an sf writer named Gary Wright who had a much anthologized story about some futuristic luge called something like "Ice Slide"? "Ice Capades"? "Ice Rink" ? "Ice Mutants"? and then was never heard from again? I'll guess I'll see what Clute & Co have to say.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 20:44 (three years ago) Permalink

Looks like some Canadian teacher assigned it to his students to adapt as a short film. Don't think it was clemenza, though.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 20:55 (three years ago) Permalink

Can anyone tell me what on earth Science Fiction Poetry is? Poems of fantasy and horror just uses tropes of those genres but how do you achieve the conceptual framework of SF in poetry? Because without that, the tropes by themselves would just be fantasy poems or poems about radical change.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 23 November 2014 20:56 (three years ago) Permalink

If you have to ask you'll never know.

Tom Disch might have had something to tell you about it, but he is sadly no longer with us.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 21:00 (three years ago) Permalink

Oh gosh, now that you mention it, I've seen poetry in science fiction mags as far back as I can remember, though I don't remember any specific poem, at least in part because I haven't read any sf mags in a long time. I do remember there being quite a range, from short light verse (limericks, even)to much more ambitious testimonials and mini-sagas(never got much space in the page sense).
I'll have to dig up some of those zines; meanwhile this looks like a good place to start:
http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/poetry

dow, Sunday, 23 November 2014 22:22 (three years ago) Permalink

Also notable were the infusion of a quantity of poetry into the text of Brian W Aldiss's novel Barefoot in the Head (1969)

Thinking about what Aldiss to read next, since I finished Report on Probability A , which I will give a report grade of 'A' to, and this is on my short list.

There are some poems in the anthology Sense of Wonder.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 22:51 (three years ago) Permalink

Just came across a 1962 American printing of The Long Afternoon of Earth, AKA Hothouse; unabridged edition didn't come out in the US 'til 76.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/915UUZNX5hL._SL1500_.jpg

dow, Sunday, 23 November 2014 23:37 (three years ago) Permalink

Did you buy it? It is currently out of print. I loved the story/extract in the Silverberg SF 101 book, as mentioned on prior thread.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 23:41 (three years ago) Permalink

This is the abridged version I got (for 25 cents)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/518xgA8aO7L._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

dow, Monday, 24 November 2014 00:00 (three years ago) Permalink

in terms of thematic vibe, this cover may be more appropriate, but the UK is awesome o coures

dow, Monday, 24 November 2014 00:01 (three years ago) Permalink

In your favorite online sf reference work I believe that book has the tag ***SEMISPOILER ALERT** "Space Elevator" **END OF SEMISPOILER ALERT

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 November 2014 00:28 (three years ago) Permalink

Vandermeer has come back to one he still thinks is underappreciated. The title and author seem vaguely familiar; anybody read it? http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2007/08/19/smile-on-the-void-by-stuart-gordon/

dow, Monday, 24 November 2014 05:22 (three years ago) Permalink

New Yorker won't let me link, but check out Laura Miller's "Fresh Hell" for clear lens view of profuse YA dystopias, and how the lit varies from Classic adult-aimed (later school-assigned). TNY's Amy Davidson later agrees with much but not all of Miller's take.

dow, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 17:40 (three years ago) Permalink

been reading LeGuin's "A Fisherman of the Inland Sea" (they had it at the library). I took Disch to task in "The Dreams Our Stuff is Made of" for his attacks on her, and while I won't recant on that count (he was unnecessarily harsh and dismissive), she really can let her didacticism get in the way. I can think of few fiction writers that have a more keenly developed political agenda that is so readily apparent in their work. Ayn Rand obviously (lol) and Heinlein and Scott Card I suppose. But LeGuin's well to the left of those boorish blowhards, and arguably more audacious conceptually. I wonder if I should go back and re-read the Kestrel books for any political subtext I may have missed in jr high, I always liked those...

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 22:17 (three years ago) Permalink

I don't think I'll read her for a very long time unless I come across her work in anthologies. Because once Moorcock said her work was self-consciously literary and left him cold. But he was very fond of her as a person.

That really put me off and what you say here adds to that. But Wizard Of Earthsea is an attractive name so I'm not totally discouraged.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 01:28 (three years ago) Permalink

Moorcock doesn't always make the right choices...

Even people I know who don't usually like her (or science fiction in general) tend to like this

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81dSlqYK3SL.jpg

dow, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 01:40 (three years ago) Permalink

xp with 'twenty-five dollars' he sounds like a protege of t herman zweibel.

Monogo doesn't socialise (ledge), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Haven't read it yet, but free NASA-produced book of SF stories here http://csi.asu.edu/books/vvev/
Kicks off with new Carter Scholz, so definitely worth investigating!

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 11 December 2017 02:58 (one month ago) Permalink

Wha?

Anne Git Yorgun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 December 2017 03:00 (one month ago) Permalink

Downloaded

Anne Git Yorgun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 December 2017 03:14 (one month ago) Permalink

just came across the phrase silkpunk epic fantasy series

what does it mean

mookieproof, Friday, 15 December 2017 01:31 (one month ago) Permalink

So, Simak - "City" really is some kind of oddball masterpiece, I can't think of anything like it. "Foundation", maybe, matches it in scope and content in terms of a future history although that is very different in tone and is way more ponderous and poorly written than the compact, lyrical style Simak has. Heinlein did the future history thing too, but Simak's weird combination of folksiness and pastoral nostalgia and tragedy is infinitely more appealing, both funnier and more somber and more human. It's also interesting that it is totally devoid of any kind of villain or good/evil conflict, the characters generally do wrestle with moral quandaries and but there's none of the conventional opposing forces fighting each other stuff, everything is in the context of these larger, uncontrollable forces at work on society (and different types of societies). The farther I go into it (I'm on the 7th story) the more I like it.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, October 12, 2017 10:59 AM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I ended up really enjoying this. Was not too sure after the first story or two, the whole mechanism behind people leaving the cities for their pastoral techno-palaces seemed a dated and unbelievable. But once you get past that and into the world of talking dogs/loner super-intelligent mutants/wild robots, it's really great. I also like how the sense of melancholy and solitude just escalates with each story, until it reaches its logical conclusion.

OTM about the lack of villains or traditional conflict, that was really refreshing.

Are any of his other novels/collections as good?

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 15 December 2017 23:29 (one month ago) Permalink

I liked Way Station, but haven’t readCity yet so can’t compare.

Also want to say I really enjoyed post-apocalyptic novel you recommended, Far North, by Marcel Theroux.

Burru Men Meet Burryman ina Wicker Man (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 December 2017 23:34 (one month ago) Permalink

Theroux's 'Bodies' is also very good, but hard to describe without spoiling

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 16 December 2017 10:54 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah, just got a copy of that. I know of at least one reviewer, well it was M. John Harrison, who liked Bodies a lot more than Far North.

Burru Men Meet Burryman ina Wicker Man (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 December 2017 12:30 (one month ago) Permalink

Wait isn’t it called Strange Bodies?

Burru Men Meet Burryman ina Wicker Man (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 December 2017 12:56 (one month ago) Permalink

Ooh, good to hear! I enjoyed Strange Bodies a ton too.

Thank you for reminding me about him, because apparently he has a brand new one called The Secret Books. But apparently it's only out in the UK?

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 16 December 2017 16:01 (one month ago) Permalink

Just noticed that. Also curious to read his book about Sherlock Holmes’ brother. My library used to have a copy.

Burru Men Meet Burryman ina Wicker Man (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 December 2017 22:37 (one month ago) Permalink

Sorry, yes, Strange Bodies.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 16 December 2017 22:56 (one month ago) Permalink

https://78.media.tumblr.com/15b1c91a9ffdd6d470975510a9970b01/tumblr_p10pytIeUZ1qabkwjo1_400.jpg

Wonderful Japanese cover for 900 Grandmothers, stolen from https://50watts.tumblr.com/

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 18 December 2017 01:22 (four weeks ago) Permalink

"Are any of his other novels/collections as good?"

yes, totally! he was so awesome. always entertaining.

scott seward, Monday, 18 December 2017 01:47 (four weeks ago) Permalink

C’mon skot, what kind of critical approach is that? Some of his stuff is bland and boring.

Burru Men Meet Burryman ina Wicker Man (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 December 2017 02:09 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Which stuff?

dow, Monday, 18 December 2017 02:39 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Some of the stuff he wrote after Way Station. Although you called my bluff because I only started a couple of these and didn't make much headway and I can't remember which ones they were so maybe they are not bland and boring after all.

Burru Men Meet Burryman ina Wicker Man (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 December 2017 03:06 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I used to say the same thing about Barrington Bayley and Bob Shaw before I saw the error of my ways.

Burru Men Meet Burryman ina Wicker Man (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 December 2017 03:10 (four weeks ago) Permalink

i'm not critical i guess. i like almost everything i've read by him. i can't think of many people who wrote such cool stuff from the 30s to the 80s.

scott seward, Monday, 18 December 2017 03:24 (four weeks ago) Permalink

For example if somebody asked me which P.G. Wodehouse to read, I would tell them to steer clear of The Cat-Nappers aka Aunts Aren’t Gentleman. Which I actually read twice, once under each title.

Burru Men Meet Burryman ina Wicker Man (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 December 2017 04:03 (four weeks ago) Permalink

i think i read that one, though as with all of the jeeves books, i don't know how i could confirm that

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Monday, 18 December 2017 06:01 (four weeks ago) Permalink

is it the one where the plot revolves around the theft of a cow-creamer, i once asked, to be told, well, that's actually more than one of them

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Monday, 18 December 2017 06:02 (four weeks ago) Permalink

"This is the one with the amusing misunderstanding."
"Oh, i've read that one then."

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 18 December 2017 08:56 (four weeks ago) Permalink

dow asked me to post the syllabus for the Fantasy lit course that I will be assisting with in the Winter term here, so here it is.

This isn't a genre I'm all that familiar with ('cept Harry Potter, really), so I'll likely be hanging out and posting here for the next few months.

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Friday, 22 December 2017 03:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

kudos for doing lion, witch *before* magician's nephew

mookieproof, Friday, 22 December 2017 04:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Just finished Pamela Sargent's first Women of Wonder anthology, after it was mentioned on this thread a little while ago. It includes an early (and pretty good) story by Marion Zimmer Bradley, 'The Wind People', which contains a strong incest theme - very uncomfortable reading in the light of subsequent revelations. Good stories too from Ursula K Le Guin, Joanna Russ and Vonda N McIntyre, while the nicely ironic/acerbic 'The Food Farm' by Kit Reed was the story I enjoyed most by an author who was new to me. I see from Wiki that Reed died earlier this year - would like to read more by her.

Akdov Telmig (Ward Fowler), Friday, 22 December 2017 09:30 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I asked you about that on What Did You Read In 2017, should have come here first as I usually do. Thanks for the syllabus, cryptosicko---the only one I've read (all in one volume, as originally intended, and apparently with a lot of typos corrected) is the Rings trilogy, and that is great, or really really good (the Villain is too murky up "close," but by his works ye shall know him, incl. his corrupted stooges).

dow, Saturday, 23 December 2017 16:02 (three weeks ago) Permalink

This is the one with the amusing misunderstanding."
"Oh, i've read that one then."

― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, December 18, 2017 3:56 AM (five days ago)


otm

Steely Rodin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 December 2017 16:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Adding a friend in Street Fighter V

Einstein, Bazinga, Sitar (abanana), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 09:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Frightfully lazy of me, but does anyone have any reccs for best new stuff read in 2017? Been kind of out of the loop this year

Number None, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 13:06 (two weeks ago) Permalink

We certainly don't tend to hop on flavor-of-the-nanosecond around here, but in 2017 I read and raved about Kelly Link's fuckin'-finally second collection, Get In Trouble (2015), Best American Science Fiction and Fantasy 2016 (guest edited by Karen Joy Fowler), and maybe that was when I grokked Naomi Novik's grabber Uprooted. Too lazy to c and p, but my takes are upthread.

dow, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 20:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Apr. 8-10: Eliezer Yudkowsky (Less Wrong), Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality (Chapters 1-10)

Ha, that's an interesting assigned reading.

jmm, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 20:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

(from cryptosicko's syllabus)

I haven't read it myself but I remember my Potter fan siblings talking about that story. Didn't know it was the Roko's Basilisk guy.

jmm, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 20:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

wtf this was the wrong thread xxxxp

Einstein, Bazinga, Sitar (abanana), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 01:34 (one week ago) Permalink

reading The Martian - some chat about it upthread (2015, me seeing it in tescos, wondering). i realise it has turned into a big deal in the meantime. it's quite compelling. written as a journal, lots of problem solving. reminds me of a.c.clarke - rama or moondust or something, the science leading the story.

just finished The Affirmation, which is one of those SF Masterworks but reads more like iain (no-M) banks - writer writes a fictionalised account of his life. or does he?

koogs, Sunday, 7 January 2018 20:21 (one week ago) Permalink

any good? sounds intriguing but "the inverted world" wasn't quite good enough to make me rush out for more.

Here comes the phantom menace (ledge), Sunday, 7 January 2018 20:29 (one week ago) Permalink

Not really.

koogs, Monday, 8 January 2018 08:08 (one week ago) Permalink

If you not like inverted world, not sure i can cope

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 8 January 2018 08:39 (one week ago) Permalink

thought that might raise some hackles. i didn't think it was *bad*, it just didn't ever rise above its own high concept.

Here comes the phantom menace (ledge), Monday, 8 January 2018 09:14 (one week ago) Permalink

finished The Martian. all through the book he's been throwing worst case scenarios at the poor guy so i settled down this morning to read the last 25 pages fearing the worst. but 16 of those pages were 'read an excerpt from author's new book' (i do hate that) so it all got wrapped up pretty quickly in comparison. was fun in an xkcd / 'if a man needs 1400 calories a day and so much space to grow potatoes, how long until he starves?' maths problem kind of way.

next up, Ready player One.

koogs, Thursday, 11 January 2018 13:13 (five days ago) Permalink

(Cyrus' favourite book, i see.

the ebook has a generic cover with just the name on the front. does nobody check these things?)

koogs, Thursday, 11 January 2018 13:15 (five days ago) Permalink

Dear god, koogs, Andy Weir has given you Stockholm syndrome, don't go on with the Cline!

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 11 January 2018 23:16 (five days ago) Permalink

Ha! Was wondering when someone was going to make a comment along those lines and how they would word it. Full marks

Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 January 2018 23:44 (five days ago) Permalink

40 pages in and i see what you mean. i'm hoping when the plot gets going the writing won't bother me as much as it currently does.

'Rebecca Serle of The Huffington Post described the book as "the grown-up's Harry Potter"'

maybe i'll wait for the film...

koogs, Friday, 12 January 2018 08:03 (four days ago) Permalink

Ready Player One is a deeply satisfying hateread.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 13 January 2018 08:22 (three days ago) Permalink

It's the 80s reference that get me, the clumsy way they are name-dropped in, often 5 at a time. And the little, unnecessary, explanatory comments after each one. Reminds me of Moby Dick in a way, half novel, half Wikipedia.

Don't know about "grown up's Harry Potter", is more like Neuromancer but, y'know, for kids.

koogs, Saturday, 13 January 2018 10:36 (three days ago) Permalink

"grown up's Harry Potter" = "i have read 5 genre novels"

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 13 January 2018 13:41 (three days ago) Permalink


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