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Because the old one got too long and Shakey couldn't load it. A sequel to rolling fantasy, science fiction, speculative fiction &c. thread

fgtbaoutit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 November 2014 00:51 (three years ago) Permalink

Hoping to report on Report On Probability A in the near future.

fgtbaoutit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 November 2014 00:54 (three years ago) Permalink

Gregory Benford: Artifact --- archaeologists uncover lethal alien thingy in Mycenean burial ground. Not brilliantly written, but interesting enough to continue with. Entertainingly, for a book written in 1985, it contains early 21st-century Greece falling apart because of a worldwide economic depression/recession

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 13 November 2014 01:11 (three years ago) Permalink

lol @ thread title

Report on Probability A - was idly thinking of re-reading that recently, I remember being p underwhelmed by its central formal conceit. I expected it to be much loopier and disorienting. In general, Aldiss is v hit or miss for me (something I've read Moorcock attribute to his needing a good editor/manager, someone to set goals/targets for him). Cryptozoic is undreadable, for example, but I consider Barefoot in the Head from just a year or two later a masterpiece.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:20 (three years ago) Permalink

Brian W. "Crazy Baldhead" Aldiss

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:27 (three years ago) Permalink

Read rep on prob a at least twice a long time ago, didn't know anything about last year at marienbad but enjoyed the formal conceit and the last few pages made me want to high five him.

thread title capitalisation and constant reminder of that dunderheaded heinlein story is gonna make me rmde to eternity.

ledge, Friday, 14 November 2014 10:03 (three years ago) Permalink

agonising as it may be for ledge, this restart is v handy for me, as I meant to start following the previous thread after the initial poll that prompted it, and then i didn't and then it got so long that my approach of 'I must read all of it before participating' turned into hiding from the thread and not ever talking about some of my favourite strands of writing :/

Fizzles, Friday, 14 November 2014 10:41 (three years ago) Permalink

Sorry for thread title, ledge, I did it to annoy Shakey, not you.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 November 2014 11:17 (three years ago) Permalink

You are not the only one who couldn't read prior thread, Fizzles. Was constantly using the search feature or wondering where something was only to learn it was further upthread.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 November 2014 11:26 (three years ago) Permalink

Still slogging through the last of Atwood's Maddadam trilogy. The third book is piss-weak, slow going and uninteresting, and her stylistic flaws seem to show through more and more. Because it's sci-fi there's an attempt to be, I dunno, edgy or hardboiled or something and it's about as convincing as one of your parents trying on an ill-fitting leather jacket. Bit of a shame really, becaus eI enjoyed the first two books (Oryx & Crake / Year of the Flood) immensely.

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Friday, 14 November 2014 11:34 (three years ago) Permalink

I think I forgotten to say on the previous thread that another one of the best features on fantasticfiction site is it shows you the blurbs writers have done for other people's books.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 14 November 2014 14:35 (three years ago) Permalink

Cool I'll just keep pasting in stuff from prev thread everytime somebody mentions something already discussed thoroughly, as I kept etc on prev thread its own self. Speaking of blurbs, here's a good 'un from a recent library shop score, Wandering Stars, An Anthology of Jewish Fantasy and Science Fiction, edited by Jack Dann, Introduction by Isaac Asimov:
I loved Wandering Stars, and why not? Two of the thirteen stories are from Orbit, and I would have bought seven of the rest if I had got my hands on them first. If the book had nothing else going for it, it would still be a triumph to get William Tenn to write the great story he was talking about in the fifties.--Damon Knight
(Also a blurb from Leo Rosten, who wrote The Education of Hyman Kaplan, about an immigrant who tends to take over English classes with his own versions and visions of language and lit.)

dow, Friday, 14 November 2014 15:47 (three years ago) Permalink

Contents (some of these titles are corny, but the few stories I kinda remember from mags etc were good):

"Why Me?" by Isaac Asimov

William Tenn: "On Venus, Have We Got A Rabbi"

Avram Davidson: "The Golem"

Isaac Asimov: "Unto the Fourth Generation"

Carol Carr: "Look, You Think You've Got Troubles"

Avram Davidson: "Goslin Day"

Robert Silverberg: "The Dybbuk of Mazel Tov IV"

Horace L. Gold: "Trouble With Water"

Pamela Sargent: "Gather Blue Roses"

Bernard Malamud: "The Jewbird"

Geo. Alec Effinger: "Paradise Lost"

Robert Sheckley: "Street of Dreams, Feet of Clay"

Isaac Bashevis Singer: Jachid and Jechidah"

Harlan Ellison: "I'm Looking For Kadah"

dow, Friday, 14 November 2014 16:00 (three years ago) Permalink

I just looked at a full schedule of all the books on SF Gateway (presumably this is the ebook titles). It's 2599 books!
Cant remember where I found the document.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 14 November 2014 21:16 (three years ago) Permalink

UK or US or other?

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 November 2014 21:39 (three years ago) Permalink

Probably UK

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 14 November 2014 22:02 (three years ago) Permalink

Considerably fewer in US

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 November 2014 22:12 (three years ago) Permalink

Mark Sinker makes some connections (for inst., between Gothic and Futurist lit) new to me, after viewing the National Gallery's William Morris exhibition:

dow, Sunday, 16 November 2014 14:51 (three years ago) Permalink

Thanks. Surely the friend mentioned there is an ILB poster.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 14:59 (three years ago) Permalink

RMDE at that this thread title too, as well as the terrible screenname I had at the time. Don't know why I did it. I guess the door dilated and I just had to go through it.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 14:59 (three years ago) Permalink

before I forget: this Brazilian writer recently died and Clute tweeted link to very appealing SFE overview of his work:

dow, Sunday, 16 November 2014 15:51 (three years ago) Permalink

Ooh! I mean RIP but yknow

Οὖτις, Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:02 (three years ago) Permalink

Thanks. Often hard to find something like that in translation or even not in translation. Wonder if he had anything in that Cosmos Latinos anthology? Don't seem to recognize the name.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:03 (three years ago) Permalink

(xp, obv)

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:03 (three years ago) Permalink

okay, "Brain Transplant."

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:05 (three years ago) Permalink

I've only read Brain Transplant but would def read more provided stuff gets translated

Οὖτις, Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:06 (three years ago) Permalink

Hey James, tried to reply to yr kind email, but it won't let us reply directly, and the webmail form has the worst captcha evah, I refreshed it a half-dozen times, got rejected over and over and over and over and over and over. So I'll reply here: thanks, you keep up the good posts too!

dow, Monday, 17 November 2014 02:06 (three years ago) Permalink

has this been posted already?

Οὖτις, Monday, 17 November 2014 16:18 (three years ago) Permalink

Laird Barron wrote a parody of the horror/weird scene, it included jabs at Mark Samuels in particular (however serious they were intended, nobody knows), there was some discussion of this at the Ligotti forum and eventually that resulted in Justin Isis writing hilarious rap battle lyrics.
Several spread across this page

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 17 November 2014 23:35 (three years ago) Permalink

The xpost link to Mark Sinker's William Morris exhibit etc is back online this afternoon. Read that before reading further, for max headroom:
When his fellow visitor/ILXor xyzzz (sic?) said it was down this morning, I told Mark, and we had this email exchange:

Mark:oh cheers, yes, the guy who hosts it (on a laptop in his spare room) sometimes has to reboot :)

me: OK, will keep in mind. I fairly recently got into Morris and those Kipling stories (if you meant "As Easy As A-B-C" and "With The Night Mail," for inst), but hadn't made the connection. Now I'm also thinking of Blade Runner's Earth, a mostly abandoned First World-as-Third World backstreet, where it rains all night in perpetual eco-ruins; also PKD's original setting, more like a slightly-future-to-us Beijing, with workers scuttling between buildings, hoping not to be singed/cancer-seeded by the invisible sun. Some later Tiptree stories too, and Mary Shelley's The Last Man, for me amazing as Frankenstein.
Probably some of Kim Stanley Robinson's later novels too, though they've gotten so long I may never know (early The Wild Shore was fine, best I recall). But I recently saw a mention of "cli-fi" as emerging trend, so we may get sick of the whole thing even before it all comes true.

Mark: Yes, Kipling’s mum was related to a famous Pre-Raphaelite in the Morris circle — his dad of course ran the Lucknow museum — and when he was boarded in England as kid (not the notorious time that became Baa Baa Black Sheep) he stayed with the De Morgans, who were also minor slebs in Arts&Crafts terms: William DM a high-end potter and tile designer (he did the fireplaces for the Titanic iirc!)

Yrs partly (Kipling's)sic-fi stories, but also the stories about ships and trains and cars — esp.the ones from the perspective of the train or ship. The ones abt cars are really intriguing: he was totally an early adopter.

me: Didn't know any of that, thanks! Will def have to read more Kipling----recently found one of his I mentioned in an anth w HG's "The Land Ironclads"---getting back into Wells, and suspect the Eloi and Morlocks might have gotten Morris (and Tolkien) going. Finally read The Lord Of The Rings, and feel like I totally/mostly get it! Specific associations re the "not allegorical, dammit!" Ring/magic can shift, but lately I think of fossil fuels as thee ancient source of modern marvels, source which must now be sacrificed to/for any chance of future lives, bearable legacy But once that ship sails off into the autumn sea, it sails, buddy. So the book is a tragedy, but fairly often experienced as a comedy, in a commedia sense: fascination of the vivid details, robustly acted out, with some mortal meat joy, and other meat conditions.

dow, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 19:08 (three years ago) Permalink

William DM a high-end potter and tile designer (he did the fireplaces for the Titanic iirc!

De Morgan Centre looking for a foothold. (Those are Tolkien's ships, right there)

alimosina, Thursday, 20 November 2014 01:24 (three years ago) Permalink

Just heard "Dream Weaver" on the radio. Wasn't there an sf writer named Gary Wright who had a much anthologized story about some futuristic luge called something like "Ice Slide"? "Ice Capades"? "Ice Rink" ? "Ice Mutants"? and then was never heard from again? I'll guess I'll see what Clute & Co have to say.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 20:44 (three years ago) Permalink

Looks like some Canadian teacher assigned it to his students to adapt as a short film. Don't think it was clemenza, though.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 20:55 (three years ago) Permalink

Can anyone tell me what on earth Science Fiction Poetry is? Poems of fantasy and horror just uses tropes of those genres but how do you achieve the conceptual framework of SF in poetry? Because without that, the tropes by themselves would just be fantasy poems or poems about radical change.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 23 November 2014 20:56 (three years ago) Permalink

If you have to ask you'll never know.

Tom Disch might have had something to tell you about it, but he is sadly no longer with us.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 21:00 (three years ago) Permalink

Oh gosh, now that you mention it, I've seen poetry in science fiction mags as far back as I can remember, though I don't remember any specific poem, at least in part because I haven't read any sf mags in a long time. I do remember there being quite a range, from short light verse (limericks, even)to much more ambitious testimonials and mini-sagas(never got much space in the page sense).
I'll have to dig up some of those zines; meanwhile this looks like a good place to start:

dow, Sunday, 23 November 2014 22:22 (three years ago) Permalink

Also notable were the infusion of a quantity of poetry into the text of Brian W Aldiss's novel Barefoot in the Head (1969)

Thinking about what Aldiss to read next, since I finished Report on Probability A , which I will give a report grade of 'A' to, and this is on my short list.

There are some poems in the anthology Sense of Wonder.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 22:51 (three years ago) Permalink

Just came across a 1962 American printing of The Long Afternoon of Earth, AKA Hothouse; unabridged edition didn't come out in the US 'til 76.

dow, Sunday, 23 November 2014 23:37 (three years ago) Permalink

Did you buy it? It is currently out of print. I loved the story/extract in the Silverberg SF 101 book, as mentioned on prior thread.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 23:41 (three years ago) Permalink

This is the abridged version I got (for 25 cents),204,203,200_.jpg

dow, Monday, 24 November 2014 00:00 (three years ago) Permalink

in terms of thematic vibe, this cover may be more appropriate, but the UK is awesome o coures

dow, Monday, 24 November 2014 00:01 (three years ago) Permalink

In your favorite online sf reference work I believe that book has the tag ***SEMISPOILER ALERT** "Space Elevator" **END OF SEMISPOILER ALERT

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 November 2014 00:28 (three years ago) Permalink

Vandermeer has come back to one he still thinks is underappreciated. The title and author seem vaguely familiar; anybody read it?

dow, Monday, 24 November 2014 05:22 (three years ago) Permalink

New Yorker won't let me link, but check out Laura Miller's "Fresh Hell" for clear lens view of profuse YA dystopias, and how the lit varies from Classic adult-aimed (later school-assigned). TNY's Amy Davidson later agrees with much but not all of Miller's take.

dow, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 17:40 (three years ago) Permalink

been reading LeGuin's "A Fisherman of the Inland Sea" (they had it at the library). I took Disch to task in "The Dreams Our Stuff is Made of" for his attacks on her, and while I won't recant on that count (he was unnecessarily harsh and dismissive), she really can let her didacticism get in the way. I can think of few fiction writers that have a more keenly developed political agenda that is so readily apparent in their work. Ayn Rand obviously (lol) and Heinlein and Scott Card I suppose. But LeGuin's well to the left of those boorish blowhards, and arguably more audacious conceptually. I wonder if I should go back and re-read the Kestrel books for any political subtext I may have missed in jr high, I always liked those...

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 22:17 (three years ago) Permalink

I don't think I'll read her for a very long time unless I come across her work in anthologies. Because once Moorcock said her work was self-consciously literary and left him cold. But he was very fond of her as a person.

That really put me off and what you say here adds to that. But Wizard Of Earthsea is an attractive name so I'm not totally discouraged.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 01:28 (three years ago) Permalink

Moorcock doesn't always make the right choices...

Even people I know who don't usually like her (or science fiction in general) tend to like this

dow, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 01:40 (three years ago) Permalink

As far as I've read, it's when there's not just the question of some supernatural incident but everything seems off and ambiguous.

Huh, that's pretty much what I think of weird fiction as.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 14 May 2018 09:10 (one month ago) Permalink

Depends whose definition really. I think Joshi might have popularized using it perhaps interchangeably with supernatural horror.

Still don't know if the last two Flat Earth books are coming out, maybe they're too unfinished.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 18 May 2018 17:30 (one month ago) Permalink

The Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America (SFWA) announced the winners of the 2017 Nebula Awards at an awards banquet during the 52nd Annual Nebula Conference held May 19, 2018 at the Pittsburgh Marriott Center in Pittsburgh PA
Here they are:
And I ain't read a one. Although am reading Best American Science Ficion & Fantasy 2015.

dow, Sunday, 20 May 2018 16:19 (one month ago) Permalink

21 hours ago

Nice touch. There’s one at every seat at the Nebula Awards banquet. #Nebulas2018

If it doesn't show up, it's a button that says "Thank you, Ursula."

dow, Sunday, 20 May 2018 19:26 (one month ago) Permalink

The only Nebula nominee i have read was the Martha Wells, but it was very good.

Now reading The Wandering Earth, a fat collection of Cixin Liu's novellas. Combines astonishing and amazing physics and cosmology ideas with seriously cardboard characterisations and dialogue. Like Golden Age SF written with access to 21st century theories.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 21 May 2018 12:00 (one month ago) Permalink

Good thing I stopped buying books: this is hella expensive---but still nice to be tempted:

We've just received another ten copies of Caitlin R. Kiernan's mammoth Lovecraftian collection, Houses Under the Sea, likely the last time we'll be able to reorder from Centipede Press.
In our estimation, this is the collection of the year thus far, both from content and presentation standpoints. Look for copies to be rare on the secondary market.
About the Book:
Since H.P. Lovecraft first invited colleagues such as Frank Belknap Long and Robert Bloch (among others) to join in his creation of what has come to be known as "The Cthulhu Mythos" (over Lovecraft's less invocative name of "Yog-Sothery"), dozens of authors have tried their hand at adding to this vast tapestry with varying degrees of success. Some, like the then teen-aged Ramsey Campbell, used the Mythos as a starting point to his own career while still finding his own authorial voice (The Inhabitant of the Lake and Less Welcome Tenants, Arkham House 1964); others, like Stephen King and Neil Gaiman, did so at the height of their careers, paying homage to an author who had been such a tremendous inspiration to them. But no one, absolutely no one, has contributed such a body of brilliant and profoundly original work to the Mythos as has Caitlín R. Kiernan.
The stories are fully illustrated with over 30 new full page illustrations by Richard A. Kirk, John Kenn Mortensen, and Vince Locke. The full wraparound dustjacket and frontispiece are by Piotr Jablonski.
In this remarkable collection the author has selected over two dozen of her best Lovecraftian tales ranging from 2000s "Valentian" to her more recent classic "A Mountain Walked" as well as including the complete Dandridge Cycle, as well as a new story, "M Is for Mars." In short, this is a cornerstone volume for Kiernan fans and Mythos devotees alike. This edition is limited to 500 signed copies, each signed by Caitlín R. Kiernan, Michael Cisco, S.T. Joshi, and the artists: Piotr Jablonski, Richard A. Kirk, John Kenn Mortensen, and Vince Locke.
Edition Information:
-- Limited to 500 copies, each signed by Caitlín R. Kiernan, Michael Cisco, S.T. Joshi, and the artists: Piotr Jablonski, Richard A. Kirk, John Kenn Mortensen, and Vince Locke.
-- Oversize at 6½ × 11 inches.
-- 552 pages.
-- New introduction by S.T. Joshi.
-- New afterword by Michael Cisco.
-- Full Dutch cloth with two color stamping on spine and blind stamp on front board.
-- Clothbound slipcase.
-- Printed endpapers.
-- Ribbon marker, head and tail bands.

Subterranean Press

dow, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Kiernan is v impressive and I would read the shit out of that

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:46 (one month ago) Permalink

Does any other literary genre besides SF make so much of its interesting work almost unavailable except to those with incredible wealth?

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 24 May 2018 23:13 (one month ago) Permalink

idk, making nice things in limited quantities is expensive - you think Subterranean Press is raking it in?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 May 2018 23:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Not at all, but hardly anyone is reading the books, either.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 25 May 2018 03:19 (one month ago) Permalink

At least it's keeping ST Joshi in 'yet another lovecraft introduction' work.

lana del boy (ledge), Friday, 25 May 2018 08:02 (one month ago) Permalink


omgneto and ittanium mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 25 May 2018 10:17 (one month ago) Permalink

This has a lot of things I liked and found interesting, like these Vietnamese space empires having their architecture and clothing a lot like what I'm guessing ancient Vietnam may have been like. The virtual ancestors and the names of ships & places were pretty cool too.

But I think the prose was a bit too weak and the story wasn't quite interesting enough and it got very repetitive the way we're told about the characters manners.
I would have liked more description of the ships, some of the places and the Harmonization Arch but I'm guessing some of these are detailed in earlier Xuya stories and you don't want to have these things described in every installment.

The excerpt from an earlier Xuya novel seemed like it might be better.

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that House Of Shattered Wings is much better.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 May 2018 17:30 (one month ago) Permalink

Sorry, that was a review for Aliette De Bodard's Citadel Of Weeping Pearls.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 May 2018 17:31 (one month ago) Permalink

Just checked the price for a new Zagava press book that interested me. Cheapest version is 98 Euros.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 May 2018 22:34 (one month ago) Permalink

Is there gonna be an ebook of that kiernan mythos doorstop?

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Friday, 25 May 2018 22:41 (one month ago) Permalink

The Count Stenbock book by David Tibet kept getting delayed so Snuggly Books have ended up releasing their version first. Don't know if the contents are identical though.

James- are there any specifically science fiction oriented presses that are more expensive than Zagava, Raphus, Ex Occidente, Centipede and Pegana? I used to think £30 presses like Tartarus, Ash Tree and Egaeus were outrageous but now I buy them without crying too much. Most of them are leaning weird/ghostly/decadent.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 May 2018 23:26 (one month ago) Permalink

Subterranean editions aren't necessarily exclusive sources, if you look around, especially with prolific authors like Kiernan---sure are a lot of mentions of her on this ol; thread, for instance;
MacMillan's got Kiernan and a bunch of others "starting at $2.99"---all ebooks in this ad, though prob have at lease some of 'em in other formats as well; seems to be the thing for a lot of F&SF publishers, judging by Amazon:

― dow, Monday, 27 February 2017 19:56 (one year ago) Permalink

I've downloaded a few cheapo ebooks via MyKindle to read on my laptop, but one reason for reading books is to get away from screens, so...

― dow, Monday, 27 February 2017
And! Check the ebook price on this CK slab:
What exactly is the difference between a love letter and a suicide note? Is there really any difference at all? These might be the questions posed by Dear Sweet Filthy World, Caitlín R. Kiernan's fourteenth collection of short fiction, comprised of twenty-eight uncollected and impossible-to-find stories.

Treading the grim places where desire and destruction, longing and horror intersect, the author rises once again to meet the high expectations she set with such celebrated collections as Tales of Pain and Wonder, To Charles Fort, With Love, and the World Fantasy Award-winning The Ape's Wife and Other Stories. In these pages you'll meet a dragon's lover, a drowned vampire cursed always to ride the tides, a wardrobe that grants wishes, and a lunatic artist's marriage of the Black Dahlia and the Beast of Gévaudan. You'll visit a ruined post-industrial Faerie, travel back to tropical Paleozoic seas and ahead to the far-flung future, and you'll meet a desperate writer forced to sell her memories for new ideas. Here are twenty-eight tales of apocalypse and rebirth, of miraculous transformation and utter annihilation. Here is the place where professing your undying devotion might be precisely the same thing as signing your own death warrant—or worse.

The stories in Dear Sweet Filthy World were first published in the subscription-only Sirenia Digest, run by Caitlín for her most devoted readers. This publication marks the first availability to the general public for most of these rare tales.

From Publishers Weekly:

“The 28 stories (most previously available only in her e-zine, Sirenia Digest) in Kiernan’s newest collection of dark fiction (after Beneath an Oil-Dark Sea) explore the human and inhuman conditions in all their filthy glory, and bravely wallow in the effluvia of mythology, murder, and depravity…her many fans will be overjoyed to have these works collected.”

From Kirkus Reviews:

“Horror blends with love, obsession, transformed bodies, and terrifying mysteries in this collection of stories. Kiernan's surreal and often unsettling fiction derives much of its power from the way it causes characters and readers alike to question reality via a shroud of narrative ambiguity… At their best, these stories are sinister and beguiling in equal measure, tracing the border between fear and obsession and asking powerful questions about desire along the way.”

From Locus Online:

“Although Kiernan has produced three fine novels, I think it’s safe to say that most of her fans think of her as one our finest and most productive writers of short stories. And so this new collection, her fourteenth, will certainly be received with much delight and acclaim. Containing nearly thirty tales, this handsome volume incidentally proves once again that Subterranean Press continues to be one of the most generous, savvy, elegant and creative publishers around.”

From SFRevu:

“Any fan of dark fiction should be reading Kiernan, and if you haven't discovered her yet this collection is a chance to see what you have been missing.”

Table of Contents:

Werewolf Smile
Vicaria Draconis
Paleozoic Annunciation
Charcloth, Firesteel, and Flint
Shipwrecks Above
The Dissevered Hearts
Drawing from Life
The Eighth Veil
Three Months, Three Scenes, With Snow
Tempest Witch
Fairy Tale of the Maritime
– 30 –
The Carnival is Dead and Gone
Scylla for Dummies
Down to Gehenna
The Granting Cabinet
Latitude 41°21'45.89"N, Longitude 71°29'0.62"W
Another Tale of two Cities
Blast the Human Flower
Here Is No Why
Interstate Love Song (Murder Ballad No. 8)

$4.99! I'm gonna get this.

― dow, Friday, 13 October 2017

I never did, but still.

dow, Saturday, 26 May 2018 00:54 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Oops, that MacMillan ad's link has expired, sorry, but check Amazon.

dow, Saturday, 26 May 2018 00:56 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Amazon bio

Caitlin R. Kiernan was born near Dublin, Ireland, but has spent most of her life in the southeastern United States. In college, she studied zoology, geology, and palaeontology, and has been employed as a vertebrate palaeontologist and college-level biology instructor. The results of her scientific research have been published in the JOURNAL OF VERTEBRATE PALAEONTOLOGY, THE JOURNAL OF PALAEONTOLOGY and elsewhere. In 1992, she began writing her first novel, THE FIVE OF CUPS (it remained unpublished until 2003). Her first published novel, SILK (1998), earned her two awards and praise from critics and such luminaries as Neil Gaiman, Clive Barker, Peter Straub, and Poppy Z. Brite. Her next novel, THRESHOLD (2001), was also an award-winner, and since then she has written LOW RED MOON (2003), MURDER OF ANGELS (2004), DAUGHTER OF HOUNDS (2007), and, forthcoming, THE RED TREE. She is a prolific short fiction author, and her award-winning short stories have been collected in TALES OF PAIN AND WONDER (2000), WRONG THINGS (with Poppy Z. Brite; 2001), FROM WEIRD AND DISTANT SHORES (2002), and TO CHARLES FORT, WITH LOVE (2005), ALABASTER (2006), FROG TOES AND TENTACLES (2005), TALES FROM THE WOEFUL PLATYPUS (2007), and, most recently, the sf collection, A IS FOR ALIEN (2009). She has also scripted comics for DC/Vertigo, including THE DREAMING ('97-'01), THE GIRL WHO WOULD BE DEATH ('98), and BAST: ETERNITY GAME ('03). Her short sf novel THE DRY SALVAGES was published in 2004, and has published numerous chapbooks since 2000. Caitlin also fronted the goth-rock band Death's Little Sister in 1996-1997, once skinned a lion, and likes sushi. She lives in Providence, RI with her partner, Kathryn, and her two cats, Hubero and Smeagol. Caitlin is represented by Writer's House (NYC) and United Talent Agency (LA)

dow, Saturday, 26 May 2018 01:04 (four weeks ago) Permalink

B-b-but what about new one, Black Helicopters? I bought it when it came out but have yet to read it. Think maybe it appeared earlier in shorter form

omgneto and ittanium mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 May 2018 01:14 (four weeks ago) Permalink

That's an old bio, she's had a lot of books since then.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 May 2018 01:17 (four weeks ago) Permalink

She's got a Very Best Of coming out soon.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 May 2018 09:13 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Gloria Anzaldúa deployed the Nahua word/concept nepantla to describe the space and experience of in-between-ness. Author Daniel Jose Older has built on this work in his fiction to frame Brooklyn as a multicultural frontera capable not only of resisting the gentrifying monoculture of whiteness but also of defying its associated ontological boundaries, including such binaries as life/death, human/inhuman, and natural/unnatural. How far can The Weird run with this model, and can it do so without co-opting the roots of Anzaldúa’s thought in mestizaje, queerness, and feminism?

Is it fair that I think this sounds really daft?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 May 2018 11:19 (four weeks ago) Permalink

RIP Gardner Dozois

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 1 June 2018 21:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Finished We and followed it up with a clockwork orange and Jack London's Iron Heel which is about the rise of capitalism throughout the early 20th century. It's funny because it talks about the turmoil between 1918 and the 1930s, wars with Germany and Japan, lots of things like that, reads like it's an alternate history, but it was written in 1908...

koogs, Friday, 1 June 2018 23:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There was a lot of fiction predicting war with Germany in the early years of the 20th century - the country was emerging as a new military power and there was a lot of anxiety associated with that. Dunno if it's quite the same for Japan, but in <i>A Passage To India</i> Forster has his Indian characters make mention of India wanting to attain a place amongst the great nations like Japan had, so maybe?

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 4 June 2018 09:03 (three weeks ago) Permalink

japan also very militaristic at the time, was at war with china on and off for years. samurai culture, partly.

koogs, Monday, 4 June 2018 09:26 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Good overview of speculative fiction re wars to come, beginning (here) in the 18th Century: Haven't read much of this, except The Iron Heel and Wells' "The Land Ironclads," which tracked mobile slaughter though a coming Great War (published in 1903). Especially effective from the viewpoint of a middle-aged-seeming correspondent, unthrilled eyewitness to history in the making and unmaking---think this is the whole thing, as best I remember:

dow, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Today’s featured Wikipedia article is about Fantasy Book, which was mostly notable for the initial publication of “Scanners Live In Vain.”

And Nobody POLLS Like Me (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 June 2018 01:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Awes would of course like to have Scanners issue w Jack Gaughan cover (his first sale, and Cordwainer's too, under that name)---also, being a McNutt/Beaumont nut, this 'un:
Crawford still had in inventory stories he had acquired for Marvel Tales over a decade earlier, and "People of the Crater" by Andre Norton (under the pseudonym Andrew North), which appeared in the first issue, was one of these.[3] There was also a story by A. E. van Vogt, "The Cataaaa",[7] and Robert Bloch's "The Black Lotus",[8] which had first appeared in 1935 in Unusual Stories.[9] Crawford's budget limited the quality of the artwork he could acquire—he sometimes was unable to pay for art—but he managed to get Charles McNutt, later better known as Charles Beaumont, to contribute interior illustrations to the first issue.[3] Wendy Bousfield, a science fiction historian, describes his work as "strikingly original",[10] and considers the first issue to be the most artistically attractive of the whole run.[10]
SFEncyclopedia sez "People of the Crater" was Norton's first published SF story, and When it ceased publication it left incomplete a Murray Leinster serial, "Journey to Barkut"; this later appeared in full in Startling Stories (January 1952), and in book form as Gateway to Elsewhere (1954). [MJE/PN]
The name seems slightly familiar, though maybe because it was used again in the 80s:
2. US Semiprozine, letter-size, with 23 issues October 1981 to March 1987, edited by Dennis Mallonee and Nick Smith from Pasadena, California, bimonthly, then quarterly from #4. Unlike the first Fantasy Book, to which it was unconnected, this published almost no sf, concentrating on fantasy and horror. Its authors included R A Lafferty, Alan Dean Foster, Harry Turtledove (as Eric G Iverson) and Ian Watson. Circulation seldom rose above 3000. [MJE/PN/MA]

dow, Friday, 8 June 2018 02:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Jayaprakash Satyamurthy - Weird Tales Of A Bangalorean

A short collection of connected stories and poems that work as one larger piece; involving people who encounter the slums, ghosts, overlapping realities and there's a fair amount of music references (including a funny dig at Frank Zappa when he's not on his best form).

Taken individually I thought some of the stories needed something a bit more but they're always well written and interesting. The last story brings everything together really nicely.
I'm looking forward to Satyamurthy's newest collection, if I can get it in time.

There's quite a few typos and errors. This was a small press book but now it's on amazon as print on demand.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 8 June 2018 16:18 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Also read Algernon Blackwood's "The Wendigo" and I actually much prefer it to "The Willows". The dialogue regarding feet of fire and fiery heights seemed a problem at first but it became gradually spookier when the oddness of the speech is further pressed on.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 8 June 2018 18:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Oh my feet of fire! These fiery heights!

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 8 June 2018 18:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

a bit too "oh my ears and whiskers" for my liking.

lana del boy (ledge), Saturday, 9 June 2018 07:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

If only Blackwood had recorded audio for all his best works. He had a great voice for it.

First link shows Satyamurthy in his doom metal band and with his wife in the animal shelter they run. Second link goes deeper into metal, veganism and running an animal shelter.

He seems like a thoroughly good person.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 9 June 2018 11:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Had never heard of him, but all that makes me very happy.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 9 June 2018 12:41 (two weeks ago) Permalink

He liked your image of the Lovecraft pastiche writer on twitter.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 9 June 2018 13:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Lol ok, weird

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, 10 June 2018 02:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Aickman's "The Trains" is really good, the fourth and best story I've read by him, it's very vivid. Never been sure if I wanted to go for his collections, I've mostly been content to find him in anthologies.

Elizabeth Gaskell's "Old Nurse's Story" is really good. Very cute and with clichés done quite satisfyingly.

Tanith Lee
-"Cain" twincest, with a ghost twin.
- "Where Does The Town Go At Night?" seemed to be getting quite treacly then goes into very bluntly portrayed shitty people.
- "Lady Of The Shallot House" hardly anything happens but it still feels quite full to me.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 15 June 2018 20:11 (one week ago) Permalink

Those Lee stories sound good, where did you read them?

The Best American Science Fiction and Fantasy 2015 (series editor John Joseph Adams, guest ed. Joe Hill) seems more uneven than the volume guest edited by Karen Joy Fowler, and I already knew two of the
best, Karen Russell's "The Bad Graft"--which shows up early and proves a very tough act to follow, also to open for---and Kelly Link's "I Can See Right Through You" (from her most recent collection, Get In Trouble, which I carried on about upthread.
Also, Link's story added to the initial misgivings I had about several others here: they make the best, or at least end up justifying, the use of tired tropes, but---can't we just go on to something else? Nevertheless, some of them share a conscious theme of tropes getting older, like Link's iconic demon lover and his acolyte--who have proved to be cinematic one-hit wonders, living on and on in pop culture afterlife, especially tabloids, reality shows, b-movies. A little too much familiar snark and other nudge-nudge here, but it builds, it gets scary, and the demon lover's bleak, noxious POV, bleary and clear-eyed between compulsive brown-outs, proved to be a bit contagious here.
Cute humans get older and set aside for a while, in Alaya Dawn Johnson's "A Guide to the Fruits of Hawai'i" (incl. real vampires, still sufficiently cinematic of course) and Kelly Sandoval's "The Ones The Took Before" (aliens with a taste for girly singer-songwriters of Portland).
Kids are exploited by other humans, ones with cybervampiric (bandwidth-ravenous) needs, in "We Are The Cloud, by Sam J. Miller, whose artistry shows a bit more than his experience as a sharp-eyed community organizer disturbingly tells---misgivings returned at the very end, even before I read his notes: he thinks of this as a "supervillain origin story"---but what the hell, Bester's comic book influences served him well at his peak, and okay you got me Sam J. Especially since the ending is mainly presented as but one of several attractive options in a burgeoning mind, even though it's the one seized on in there for the moment (I'd rather think of it as a delusion, and I can if I don't think too much about hos Sam J. thinks about it).
Endings are more of a problem in several other stories, just the tacked-on happy endings, often completely non-seq, except sometimes it's understandable that the author and many readers, incl. me, want the protagonists to have happy endings--especially in trans author A. Merc Rustad's "How To Become A Robot in 12 Easy Steps"--no, the organic unit tagged as a girl named Tesla doesn't get to become out as a robot, but---still, that one makes for a fairly satisfying finale, via the precise, funny, sad, eerie, increasingly desperate voice of the narrator.
Also there are a few that come off more as promising pitches: here's a couple scenes, then yadda-yadda plot summary, then another scene---but maybe Netflix will make something of those.
Oh and speaking of descendants of Bester---she could be maybe a grandniece,with an indirectly related gift for imagery as fuel for drive---here's Russell's "The Bad Graft" (she's got several others on here too):

dow, Saturday, 16 June 2018 22:05 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, and my big discovery here was Adam-Troy Castro (apparently a popular YA author), whose "The Thing About Shapes To Come" is about a generation, an epidemic to some, of shape-children, big warm cubes getting bigger, for instance, and those golf-ball types, in a variety of colors, who suddenly start bouncing around all over the place, all over the world---the cubes get called "squares, " then "s-words"--but there are some loyal, loving parents in here too. Very much like a Rudy Rucker story with more emotions, and I'll take it over s-word selections in this vol.

dow, Saturday, 16 June 2018 22:16 (one week ago) Permalink

Those Tanith stories were from Tempting The Gods. It's the only collection I've read by her so far but Tanith By Choice is probably a better entry point. Her Arkham House collection Dreams Of Shadows And Light was quite celebrated but hard to find at a reasonable price (unless Gollancz have an ebook version). Tempting The Gods is subtitled Selected Stories but I think that's misleading, they were probably just stories that hadn't been collected yet (with a few exceptions).

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 16 June 2018 22:34 (one week ago) Permalink

The collection I have by her (pdf) is Nightshades

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:40 (one week ago) Permalink

i just bought a gollancz ebook of dreams of dark and light for £2.99. also bought and started electric forest by her, so far reminds me of algis budrys - sf with a psychological focus.

lana del boy (ledge), Sunday, 17 June 2018 07:44 (one week ago) Permalink

Can’t remember if I ever posted this here: Covering Viroconium

Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 June 2018 00:58 (yesterday) Permalink

Aargh. I caught some sort of misspelling bug in my fat fingers recently, of course it’s called “Covering Viriconium.”

Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 June 2018 01:00 (yesterday) Permalink

Now I need to reread my viriconium omnibus

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, 24 June 2018 02:13 (yesterday) Permalink

Very fine Bruce Pennington cover!

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 24 June 2018 05:58 (yesterday) Permalink

oho--this weekend's WSJ incl. Sam Sacks' favorable mention of Catastrophe and Other Storiesby Dino Buzzati, who made an incisive impression very, very early on in my science fiction-scarfing skull---here's a preview of the reprint:

Intriguing entry:

dow, Monday, 25 June 2018 03:41 (seven hours ago) Permalink

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