pedro carolino, "the new guide to the conversation in english"

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anyone read this peculiar little gem?

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Is that also known as English As She Is Spoke? If it is, I bought a copy when somebody- McSweeney's?- reprinted it a few years ago.

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I think tht may be the one and the same


I picked it up recently; re-printed w.its introduction by m.twain on some irish press, with a lovely, garish hot pink cover

its a guide to speaking english by a C19 brazilian who didn't speak a word of english but had a good knowledge of french

he used a portuguese-french phrase book and a french-english dictionary to build his own unique english

it's made up of four parts: the vocabulary; familiar phrases; familiar dialogues; familiar letters

just perfect in its sincerity; both perfect and absurd

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

a bad arrangement is better than a process.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

he has a good beak.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link

to do a wink to some body.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link

he eat until to can't more.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link

it want to beat the iron during it is hot.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link

it is better be single as a bad company.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link

burn the politeness.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

to look for a needle in a hay bundle.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

to be as a fish into the water.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

friendship of a child is a water into a basket.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

proto-hanle y

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

INTRODUCTION TO "THE NEW GUIDE OF THE CONVERSATION IN PORTUGUESE AND ENGLISH"

by Pedro Carolino


In this world of uncertainties, there is, at any rate, one thing
which may be pretty confidently set down as a certainty: and that is,
that this celebrated little phrase-book will never die while the
English language lasts. Its delicious unconscious ridiculousness,
and its enchanting na:ivet'e, as are supreme and unapproachable,
in their way, as are Shakespeare's sublimities. Whatsoever is
perfect in its kind, in literature, is imperishable: nobody can
imitate it successfully, nobody can hope to produce its fellow;
it is perfect, it must and will stand alone: its immortality
is secure.

It is one of the smallest books in the world, but few big books have
received such wide attention, and been so much pondered by the grave
and learned, and so much discussed and written about by the thoughtful, the thoughtless, the wise, and the foolish. Long notices of it have appeared, from time to time, in the great English reviews,
and in erudite and authoritative philological periodicals; and it
has been laughed at, danced upon, and tossed in a blanket by nearly
every newspaper and magazine in the English-speaking world.
Every scribbler, almost, has had his little fling at it, at one time
or another; I had mine fifteen years ago. The book gets out of print,
every now and then, and one ceases to hear of it for a season;
but presently the nations and near and far colonies of our tongue
and lineage call for it once more, and once more it issues from some
London or Continental or American press, and runs a new course around
the globe, wafted on its way by the wind of a world's laughter.

Many persons have believed that this book's miraculous stupidities
were studied and disingenuous; but no one can read the volume
carefully through and keep that opinion. It was written in
serious good faith and deep earnestness, by an honest and upright
idiot who believed he knew something of the English language,
and could impart his knowledge to others. The amplest proof
of this crops out somewhere or other upon each and every page.
There are sentences in the book which could have been manufactured
by a man in his right mind, and with an intelligent and deliberate
purposes to seem innocently ignorant; but there are other sentences,
and paragraphs, which no mere pretended ignorance could ever achieve--
nor yet even the most genuine and comprehensive ignorance,
when unbacked by inspiration.

It is not a fraud who speaks in the following paragraph of the
author's Preface, but a good man, an honest man, a man whose conscience
is at rest, a man who believes he has done a high and worthy work for
his nation and his generation, and is well pleased with his performance:


We expect then, who the little book (for the care what we wrote him,
and for her typographical correction) that may be worth the
acceptation of the studious persons, and especially of the Youth,
at which we dedicate him particularly.


One cannot open this book anywhere and not find richness.
To prove that this is true, I will open it at random and copy
the page I happen to stumble upon. Here is the result:

DIALOGUE 16


For To See the Town

Anothony, go to accompany they gentilsmen, do they see the town.

We won't to see all that is it remarquable here.

Come with me, if you please. I shall not folget nothing what can
to merit your attention. Here we are near to cathedral; will you
come in there?

We will first to see him in oudside, after we shall go in there
for to look the interior.

Admire this master piece gothic architecture's.

The chasing of all they figures is astonishing' indeed.

The cupola and the nave are not less curious to see.

What is this palace how I see yonder?

It is the town hall.

And this tower here at this side?

It is the Observatory.

The bridge is very fine, it have ten arches, and is constructed
of free stone.

The streets are very layed out by line and too paved.

What is the circuit of this town?

Two leagues.

There is it also hospitals here?

It not fail them.

What are then the edifices the worthest to have seen?

It is the arsnehal, the spectacle's hall, the Cusiomhouse,
and the Purse.

We are going too see the others monuments such that the public
pawnbroker's office, the plants garden's, the money office's,
the library.

That it shall be for another day; we are tired.

DIALOGUE 17


To Inform One'self of a Person

How is that gentilman who you did speak by and by?

Is a German.

I did think him Englishman.

He is of the Saxony side.

He speak the french very well.

Tough he is German, he speak so much well italyan, french, spanish
and english, that among the Italyans, they believe him Italyan,
he speak the frenche as the Frenches himselves. The Spanishesmen
believe him Spanishing, and the Englishes, Englishman. It is
difficult to enjoy well so much several languages.


The last remark contains a general truth; but it ceases to be a truth
when one contracts it and apples it to an individual--provided that
that individual is the author of this book, Sehnor Pedro Carolino.
I am sure I should not find it difficult "to enjoy well so much
several languages"--or even a thousand of them--if he did the
translating for me from the originals into his ostensible English.


cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link

This one's a perpetual favorite. We have the McSweeney's reprint. We've got a few other bizzare language books - one for Chinese people wanting to do business with the west, circa early 1900s, and one Sea Dayak phrase book full of things like "He burned me with a lit cigarette" and "At lunch today, two people were murdered by gunshots". But English as She is Spoke is a classic.

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, it's lovely.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link


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