Also, somewhat more shamefully, I realized I am prejudiced against Chuck Palahniuk (sp?) readers, despite never having read any of his books. I think it's because I'm aware of his characters' general misanthropy, and I worry that his readers identify with these attitudes a little too much. But I'm aware that this maybe a totally unfounded prejudice.
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 17 September 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mog, Friday, 17 September 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tinka, Friday, 17 September 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 17 September 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 17 September 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 17 September 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)
My prejudices extend to the readers of chic-klit, and any snob who looks down their collective conk at readers of popular literature (I don't do that, you know, even though I don't read much of that stuff)
― SRH (Skrik), Saturday, 18 September 2004 11:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)
I met an Ayn Rand fan the other day! I didn't know she was bad.
― the bellefox, Saturday, 18 September 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)
1) Found out I wasn't a genius.
2) Found out that most people are misunderstood.
3) Grew up.
4) Got over myself.
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 18 September 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)
I think Sedaris' two funniest are "Santaland Diaries" and his essay "Me Talk Pretty One Day." Some of his others are kinda hit and miss but these two will make me laugh every time. "He nice, the Jesus."
― SJ Lefty, Saturday, 18 September 2004 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 19 September 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)
Also, reading the comments about Ayn Rand here reminds me of that "South Park" episode where the formerly illiterate Officer Barbrady is given a copy of "Atlas Shrugged." After finishing it, he announces that he's sorry he ever learned how to read. Now I can't listen to someone praise her work without thinking of that and laughing.
― Mark Klobas, Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Monday, 20 September 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― sandy mc, Monday, 20 September 2004 08:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Fred (Fred), Monday, 20 September 2004 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)
Mmm. Nice. So you hate yourself then?
― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 20 September 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)
Come to think of it, this kind of goes for anyone whose literary prejudices are the same throughout life.
― Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Monday, 20 September 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― misshajim (strand), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 06:22 (twenty-one years ago)
Oh yeah, I have this too, and it's a really bad prejudice. I will buy a thick book over a thin book any day, because I'm worried a thin book will be over too soon and I won't get my money's worth, but I miss a lot of good books that way and thick books, if they're boring, can just go on forever.
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm weirdly prejudiced against literary authors who incorporate genre themes in their work as a way of spicing it up. Irritating.
― selfnoise, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― SRH (Skrik), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)
-- selfnoise (mgorill...), September 21st, 2004 2:59 PM.
I'm weirdly predjudiced against people who think there's some kind of meaningful disctinction between 'genre fiction' and 'literary fiction'. Besides, your average lit-wank, stream-of-conciousness 'serious' novel would be greatly spiced up by the appearence of a gangster or (better yet) a spaceship halfway through.
― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)
And no, it wouldn't be spiced up. It would just be obnoxious to a further degree.
― selfnoise, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― SRH (Skrik), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)
I don't hate you!
― Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)
'Wilderness Tips' is very dark; it's a remarkable collection.
― derrick (derrick), Thursday, 23 September 2004 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― misshajim (strand), Thursday, 23 September 2004 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 September 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― zan, Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)
"I'm weirdly prejudiced against literary authors who incorporate genre themes in their work as a way of spicing it up. Irritating."
I'm with you on this. well, sort of, i am. When I read that philip roth's new book was about what might have happened if charles lindberg had become president, i knew i would never read it.
but then i do have a general prejudice against alternate histories and literary reimaginings of history for some reason. it's one reason why I never wanted to read Libra and Underworld even though I like delillo. And yet i don't mind it in science fiction for some reason. and there are exceptions. i enjoyed the book i read about idi amin's fictional scottish doctor. i think if it's history or a person from history that i'm not that familiar with i don't mind as much. if it's too popcult or recent (i couldn't read joyce carol oates' book on marilyn monroe for instance) it just bugs me. i did pick up a book about two fictional pianists and their fictional friendship with glenn gould recently. that one looks pretty cool, actually. so my prejudice can't run that deep!
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 23 September 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 24 September 2004 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 24 September 2004 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hurting, Friday, 24 September 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hurting Chief, Friday, 24 September 2004 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)
On the topic, then: agreed on Palanhiuk; it's fine to read and enjoy, whatever, do you own thing, but you can't claim it as a daring counter-culture talisman, you just can't. Doug Coupland too; I really like him, I think he's fairly clever, witty, and a fair amount of fun to read, but he's simply not the brilliant cutting-edge philosopher that people claim him as.
I'm totally ok with the supposed 'chick lit' stuff, because I've never known people that suggest it as 'capturing the zeitgeist' etc. People I've known read it because it's fun, and that's cool. I read lots of stuff because it's fun, and it's not my place to judge what you find fun. Just please don't tell me to read Pahlaniuk because "it'll really make you think".
I love a good thin book; the more succinct you can get it across, the better. There are few authors whose language is good enough to make me want to wallow in unnecessary prose(Delillo is among the few). I like short stories a lot for this reason too, I guess. That's not to say that I won't go for thick books, but that I'm more inclined to pick a thin one off a discard table.
― derrick (derrick), Sunday, 26 September 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)
I don't need to have read Ayn Rand to know that it's crap. Now that is prejudice.
― Aaron Silverman, Tuesday, 5 October 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)
Re Southpark, Southpark is excellent and the show's fun w Ayn was simply that; one of the creators is a Libertarian and he admires her immensely. For as you know, libertarians believe we can stand on our own not suckle at the State, depriving one of any worth and creativity.
― Franz Kafka (Franz), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Fred (Fred), Friday, 22 October 2004 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)
Nah, couldn't be that. It must be that they just don't understand.
― Ray (Ray), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 22 October 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 22 October 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 22 October 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 22 October 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Fred (Fred), Friday, 22 October 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)