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god he's still as boring as he always was - drugs or not.

― Andre Dawson (deangulberry), Sunday, 1 May 2005 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, if he is actually ill, that sucks. And its confusing. And I dont know how to play the game anymore (too many friends with this problem, I cant handle it, I know thats not fair but eh).

― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 1 May 2005 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link

There's no way anybody on ILX can talk him down from this, and it seems to me that it's a mistake to try -- it just keeps him amped up. Part of me agrees with blount above, but another part thinks that would put him in danger. He's going to crash sooner or later, and then everybody will have their blessed peace and quiet.

― Curious George (Bat Chain Puller) (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 1 May 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link

or some admin could give me his ip address and I'll keep him off ilx.

― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Monday, 2 May 2005 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link

seriously if john d was banned how is this hippie still around?

John was banned for posting 35 threads in a row of utter nonsense, from what I can see Aaron isn't doing that. As long as he confines himself to a couple of things then I think banning him would be a very bad move indeed - especially as he has become a member of this community and people seem to like him.

(Disclaimer - I know very little about Aaron and before this episode would have struggled to attach a personality to him beyond recognising his username. Sometimes ILE just seems too big to keep track of)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 2 May 2005 00:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Couple of things = couple of threads.

(Real answer - four years into this thing and its a bit late to suddenly start banning people for psychotic episodes now isn't it?)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 2 May 2005 00:42 (nineteen years ago) link

MattDC very OTM. We cant set that kind of precedent anyway, its somewhat discriminatory I fear.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 2 May 2005 01:01 (nineteen years ago) link

the precedent's already been set! how come john's illness was worth persecuting but aaron's wacky custos like satire of illness get a free pass?

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 2 May 2005 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link

The only reason John was banned was because he was posting thread after thread after thread of the same bollocks. He wasn't persecuted for his illness, he was persecuted for making the board unusable and you know that full well, Blount.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 2 May 2005 01:15 (nineteen years ago) link

(And I would take all this mass sympathy for Aaron stuff a lot more seriously if I hadn't read some of the 'comical' posts on those threads)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 2 May 2005 01:16 (nineteen years ago) link

i think coz jd's sprawled across the new answers page making ilx unusable while ah's is just making a couple of threads dedicated to the purpose v. creepy and unpleasant?

(xpost, matt otm)

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 2 May 2005 01:16 (nineteen years ago) link

(Not an attack on you, James, in case you're wondering).

(Why am I typing in brackets anyway?)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 2 May 2005 01:19 (nineteen years ago) link

BRACKETOLOGY! MAY MADNESS! 2005 ILX MENTAL ILLNESS TOURNAMENT!

64 go in, thinking they've got the tics and disorders that will take them to the top! But only one will be crowned NUTTIEST GODDAMN I LOVE EVERYTHING FRUITCAKE OF THE YEAR!!!!

(Could be a hit on cable tv.)

― Curious George (Bat Chain Puller) (Rock Hardy), Monday, 2 May 2005 01:25 (nineteen years ago) link

food network already beat you to the punch with that lisa loeb-dweezil zappa cooking show

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 2 May 2005 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link

my thoughts exactly, including the disclaimer. Also this is just a day of abusive behavior, we gave d4hlem more chances than that. I think everyone has a right to expect consistent behavior out of the mods but I also think that we're delivering reasonably consistent behavior.

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 2 May 2005 01:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Also I dont think JD was anything but a drug abuser, quite frankly.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 2 May 2005 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry i keep forgetting he started alot of threads apparently (i never saw them), all i remember were the occasional 'dude i'm soooo drunk' threads and him being an asshole on the underwear thread and him being a yankees fan.

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 2 May 2005 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link

drug abuse is an illness too trayce. albeit maybe not an ilx tolerated one apparently.

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 2 May 2005 01:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm amazed I was never banned!

― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Monday, 2 May 2005 04:58 (nineteen years ago) link

We all are!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 2 May 2005 05:43 (nineteen years ago) link

this is the thread where you can try to fuck with aaron zanders and fail.

He's started another one now. I'm going to let this one run but delete any further threads - especially if they start to snowball.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 2 May 2005 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Please can someone do some name-removal for me on that thread.

― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 2 May 2005 12:01 (nineteen years ago) link

(specifically, post #5749955)

― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 2 May 2005 12:10 (nineteen years ago) link

John was banned for posting 35 threads in a row of utter nonsense, from what I can see Aaron isn't doing that.

approaching now.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 2 May 2005 12:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah I was defending him but it seems that was a pointless exercise; the guy claims hes not manic but either he is, or he's fucking with everyone, which is even worse, and I'm giving him no quarter anymore. Which is a shame, I like(d) Aaron.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Jesus... why the fuck are people trying to engage with him? Entertainment purposes? HAHAHA WHEN WE POKE THE MENTAL PATIENT IT'S FUN TO WATCH THE FOAM GATHER AT THE CORNERS OF HIS MOUTH. Christ.

― Curious George (Bat Chain Puller) (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link

It's only recently that this "illness" has become his excuse. Previously it was just "satire" and "humor."

― Andre Dawson (deangulberry), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Momus, I thought you said this was an intelligent community.

I think posts like this one linked ^ go way over the line and he needs an IP ban. (Between the n00d photos, the AIDS comments, etc.)

― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

That doesn't answer my question. (xpost)

― Curious George (Bat Chain Puller) (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

First time in my life to agree with Jon, but enforced distance would be appropriate now.

― Curious George (Bat Chain Puller) (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

It does, actually. He was doing this sort of thing before, calling it cutting satire. That is part of why people are somewhat ambivalent to his claims of illness.

― Andre Dawson (deangulberry), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Dean, you're just mad that you got PWNED by a musical prodigy!

― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

i think it might be best for all concerned if someone pulled the plug on this lad now

― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Nah, he hasn't mentioned me yet! (xp - yep)

― Andre Dawson (deangulberry), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

gettin personal with me now about my penis size and sex life. this could fuck up chances of getting pussy with people i dont care about! (actualy im sure my gf wouldnt appreciate it) heres another vote for bannage, please. also he uses my real name. this is crossing the line imo.

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah he's been doing this for most of the time he's been here really, it started off almost literally carboncopy custos but he didn't really get any reaction with that so he's ramped it up slightly each time to make it more EXTREME. attempts at whatever this hippie's notion of friendship were didn't pan out so he went the 'i do believe i'll start threads about myself' route. the only mental illness this guy's afflicted with is narcissism. ignoring him might be the best route (as with other trolls) but if you sincerely believe he's ill (to be honest i can buy that his parents kicked him out of the house) then banning him would seem to be definitely the most humane action for aaron's sake.

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

question: when threads are moved to other boards can people who've been posting on that thread or even started that thread continue to post on it if they've been banned from the board said thread's been moved too?

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

yes

― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

no, if they're moved to a thread from which you're banned then you can't post on it.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

oh you can? i thought you couldn't (i'm sure there was a thread that went to the noize board and then i couldn't send)

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

to a board from which i meant. mute point if it's not the case.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah i was right!

f u cunts

this thread moved from ile to noize and now i can't post to it

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Is there any good reason not to ban him?

― Leon Jones Reynolds (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link

No. If he's going to do anything dangerous, he's going to do it with or without ILX's influence.

― Curious George (Bat Chain Puller) (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link

he posted bad personal info!

― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link

He's going to steal my fiancee!!! No, seriously, ban the fucker's IP already, nicole on point.

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link

TOM, we're internet boyfriends right?

― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link

It does, actually. He was doing this sort of thing before, calling it cutting satire. That is part of why people are somewhat ambivalent to his claims of illness.

-- Andre Dawson (power.strik...), May 3rd, 2005.

he is ill. he called me on the phone before he disappeared for a while. he sounded unwell, he was laughing in a very odd manner and was talking so fast and over-the-top as to sound bordeline incoherent. the first thing i thought is that it was some kind of manic episode. i didnt hear from him for two weeks after that.

he claims he is now just 'messing' with ILX but he's kidding himself if he thinks that. he said to me that he 'just can't resist' posting. its clearly a compulsion, whether hes still in a manic episode or not.

i considered aaron to be a good friend of mine, and we had gotten to be somewhat close i suppose. he trusts me, which is why i have been afraid to say anything directly to him and have refrained from posting on his recent threads. i had no idea what his reaction would be to any criticism from me.

but now he's clearly crossed the line, epecially in regard to posting his private AIM conversations with Emily/Roxymuzak and displaying delusional stalker behavior. and his posting of the pic of caitlin was totally uncalled for. he is clearly unwilling to walk away and help himself, so i would suggest that banning him would be the best course of action.

― latebloomer: But when the monkey die, people gonna cry. (latebloomer), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I have to concur with Alex.

― jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link

He does know choice personal things about a handul of people and has explicitly threatened to post them. I care/d about Aaron, but fuck threatening people that are your friends. The end.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link

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dude's thirty if he's a day

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 6 May 2005 07:10 (nineteen years ago) link

He's 25

― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Friday, 6 May 2005 09:44 (nineteen years ago) link

twee yeahs old

― Amon (eman), Friday, 6 May 2005 11:02 (nineteen years ago) link

'Aja' (and by extension Burmakitty) is the moderator of the board. You are better off making any request for a change over here.

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Friday, 6 May 2005 12:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I wouldn't let any daughter of mine moderate that board!

― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Friday, 6 May 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

MOD REQUEST

― Amon (eman), Saturday, 7 May 2005 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

oops i meant MOD POWER REQUEST

― Amon (eman), Saturday, 7 May 2005 02:17 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.innercity.freeserve.co.uk/Moor%20Street%20Mods%201980.jpg

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 7 May 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Sun Genius Records (Sonoma County Hardcore)

hip hop, the fun don't stop

― kingfish, Sunday, 8 May 2005 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link

But what does it all mean?

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Sunday, 8 May 2005 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

do they give courses in rambling at homeless shelters

― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Monday, 9 May 2005 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

living in yr parents' basement doesn't qualify as homeless

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 9 May 2005 04:01 (nineteen years ago) link

But what does it all mean?
Allow me to introduce myself- Wile E. Coyote, super genius.

― Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 9 May 2005 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link

ihttp://www.globalhermit.com/ilx/genius.jpg

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Whoops, glad the parser borked that one up...I thought I caught it before it posted but I guess I didn't. At least good old fashioned FUBAR saved the world from the PEBKAC.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link

dude is naming names (first and last) of people in his hood on ilm and talkin shit. probably not the coolest thing. he should be banned for this.

― charleston charge (chaki), Monday, 9 May 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link

ILM mods? he is already banned on ile.

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 9 May 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

and not to speak for them but I would guess a link would be helpful.

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 9 May 2005 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

kingfish linked upthread

― charleston charge (chaki), Monday, 9 May 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I see. Teeny, drop me an e-mail.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 01:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyone want those messages deleted/thread locked? Tho Ned yr an ILM mod too, right?

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 01:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yr already at work, never mind

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, he's gotten even worse. I dont know wether to laugh or feel bad.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 01:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Andrew if you just wanna go ahead and either lock or delete, please.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link

in that thread he is talking about releasing a comp with my music (as well as ken c, ian johnson, and jon williams) on it, which i did NOT grant him any permission to use. im sure jon, kem, and ian didnt either. legally he can't do that, right? because i sent him an email telling him to remove my tracks or else.

― latebloomer: the rebel sound of grits and bacon (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link

hey Ned, sorry, I ran off to dinner right after I posted last, perhaps I answered your question on the mod board? this email works if you want to drop me a line otherwise for whatever reason.

latebloomer yes you are correct, but once it's offboard only you have the power to do something about it. :( Maybe cutty would give you some legal advice!

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 02:42 (nineteen years ago) link

It seems someone got to it already, good. If the banning doesn't go ahead/he gets a new name/IP, whatever, I'll watch out for more.

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 05:37 (nineteen years ago) link

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