also if ure doing it i think u still need to structure the discussion a lil bit, ie. have proper stopping points for everyone to talk about and shit
― born s1ocki (cankles), Monday, 20 July 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
there's also always the danger that it might not live up to your memory... i have a limited number of good memories from my childhood and like to keep them sorta sacred, so I'd understand if you're not in.
Couldn't get past the fair again last night... keep trying to get enough silver points to win all the prizes in the tent and get hung up trying to fight the robot or jump on the lever+bell...
canks are you playing kotor 1 for the first time? on pc?
― ⇑⇑⇓⇓⇐⇒⇐⇒ΛΒΒΛŠΤΛΓΤ (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 July 2009 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link
on xbox, and ya first thyme
― born s1ocki (cankles), Monday, 20 July 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
(it's amazing btw)
iirc a couple of those fair games are rigged btw
cankles did u give up on beating xcom @ higher difficulty?
ive spent a lot of time w/ the game already & am pretty devoted to blazblue right now but id be into talking about ct tho - still have my snes copy around
― Lamp, Monday, 20 July 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
KOTOR was maybe the last PC game I really got into; it's probably my fave Star Wars game of all time.
― ⇑⇑⇓⇓⇐⇒⇐⇒ΛΒΒΛŠΤΛΓΤ (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 July 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
hah, no, i beat xcom @ higher difficulty - wasnt that difficult imo http://i43.tinypic.com/dggkra.jpg
― born s1ocki (cankles), Monday, 20 July 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah it's definitely the best SW game i've played - what's funny is i can see all the parallels to baldur's gate, but the qualities i found annoying in that game i have no problem with in this one. i think i have to face facts that the sword and sorcery trappings really just drag a game down for me
― born s1ocki (cankles), Monday, 20 July 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
oh man, if i had time i would do this...as it is i have approx 2 hours/week for video games and i'm trying to play far cry 2 and point lookout. it would be a good excuse to get that DS reissue.
i played CT for the first time right after i graduated college, in the couple weeks before i got a job, on my roommate's SNES. i don't remember doing anything with my days but going for runs and playing CT. fond memories.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Monday, 20 July 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link
kotor >>>>> baldur's gate in pretty much every aspect imo
― Lamp, Monday, 20 July 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
plus, just.... runnin around doin thangs is more fun than point and click shit
― born s1ocki (cankles), Monday, 20 July 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link
lol subtle suggestion that ilg should replay secret of mana instead?
― Lamp, Monday, 20 July 2009 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link
if we could actually get some kind of emu netplay going that would be AMAZING
probably won't happen, though
also lamp, you are totally otm about KOTOR vs. Baldur's Gate. It is also true about pretty much any other Black Isle-related RPG that came out during that era
― Nhex, Monday, 20 July 2009 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link
lmao honestly i would be a lot more interested in replaying SoM! mostly because it's been a loooot longer since i've played it
― born s1ocki (cankles), Monday, 20 July 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link
"i don't remember doing anything with my days but going for runs and playing CT."This is my goal for August!
― ⇑⇑⇓⇓⇐⇒⇐⇒ΛΒΒΛŠΤΛΓΤ (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 July 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link
started this tonight and I've def. got the bug already; leveled a bunch just playing normally, w/o grinding; beat Yakra, so that's where I'm at. Nice story too, with the Back to the Future-like time travel, "oh no she's being erased" thing. I screwed around in the fair a bit, beat the bell a bunch but then failed at the horror house game; whatever. I stupidly saved $ at the fair when I could have used better armor later on; now I've got like 3000 gold but since I finished the "find the queen" thing I should be able to find a store next. But yeah, I have to work tomorrow and then it's right back to this one. Fabulous.
― la saucisse est une femme? (Euler), Monday, 20 July 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
canks you have beaten ct "17-20 times"?? is that that many playthroughs or 13 endings plus like four other playthroughs? either way i think you have qualified to moderate this discussion by picking the first set of stopping points for discussion ¬_¬
i am still playing dragon quest viii* and i am not sure i can cope with two lots of characters with horrible toriyama fetal alcohol syndrome-head thing going on, i might have to catch up later. for those of u who have played the game previously and wish to follow along there is a worryingly thorough let's play; that's, sadly, the least packed with terrible humour. (haha someone compared ILG to the somethingawful forums on ILE the other day, what in the hell)
*cough and er fallout 3 and odin sphere. lol funemployment
― thomp, Monday, 20 July 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
all the endings plus a few extra playthroughs, yeah - all of this was by, like, age 13 mind u
lol u read LP now?
― born s1ocki (cankles), Monday, 20 July 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
it is a clever resource to stop me actually going back and playing any of the games in question
― thomp, Monday, 20 July 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
first stopping point is probably after everyone beats the cathedral in 600 AD?
looool thomp what do u think of odin sphere? im a HUGE stan for that game.
― Lamp, Monday, 20 July 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
― born s1ocki (cankles), Monday, July 20, 2009 4:11 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
Ohhh man better than TIE Fighter? I will have to pick it up
― Armageddon Two: Armageddon (dyao), Monday, 20 July 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link
lamp i thought after the cathedral was where euler just got to? my memory of the game may be wonky.
odin sphere haha ER i can't decide if i hate it or not:
on some other thread someone said of it 'anime ruins everything' — totally get that — otoh, having just finished the first book, the demands on player/reader empathy have gone so far past the reasonable as to be almost interestingly alienating. i doubt that was what they were shooting for, though. aaaaaaaaand i would probably be less annoyed when the gameplay slips up (which it does) if i didn't have to watch these little wideyed idiots talk for hours alla time
the combat, every so often, seems to turn into "stay BEHIND the enemy. BEHIND" a lot. which is annoying. i wish it didn't pause when you looked at items - that stops it from ascending into proper action game zen "don't think, feel" business. and there's some annoying cheapnesses or just stuff that hasn't been playtested enough to quite be right - there was one boss that doing a combo on from the left hand side you'd pass through, but from the right hand side you wouldn't - which w/ the 'stay BEHIND' thing became really quite annoying for obv reasons
― thomp, Monday, 20 July 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link
never played TIE fighter - i guess the best previous SW game i've played is jedi outcast, which isnt saying much
― born s1ocki (cankles), Monday, 20 July 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Tie Fighter is great; KOTOR is about two steps ahead.
― PLEASE SIT TIGHT WHILE WE MAKE NEW ARRANGEMENTS (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 July 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Aw man you guys have me looking at prices for KOTOR. Any idea if the Mac version is good or should I just play it safe and go for the PC one?
― Armageddon Two: Armageddon (dyao), Monday, 20 July 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link
never got past the first planet in kotor, didn't like the combat and dialogue trees gave me option paralysis.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Monday, 20 July 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i am basically never playing anything with a name like 'knights of the old republic'
― thomp, Monday, 20 July 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link
unless it is eg. a counterfactual about oliver cromwell
― thomp, Monday, 20 July 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
odin sphere.
― born s1ocki (cankles), Monday, 20 July 2009 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link
shh.
― thomp, Monday, 20 July 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link
yah sounds like it - but its the 1st major milestone i think? QUEST #1 COMPLETED and all that
item mgmt and use was probably the worst thing in odin sphere but i didnt really care about the tactical breakdown stuff i guess - i mean i see what your saying but theres enuff variety/challenge in the boss fights that it never bothered me is the boss fite your talking about velvet because i dont remember that tbh...
lol @ caring about the story in odin sphere tho who cares it looks pretty
― Lamp, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link
lolz my ?!r@+3D copy of this hit a snag at the very first teleport and now I'm having to start over again at the FUCKING FAIR
― PLEASE SIT TIGHT WHILE WE MAKE NEW ARRANGEMENTS (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 04:28 (fourteen years ago) link
lol
if only i could find a youtube link to a certain Big Star song, but i can't
― Nhex, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha forks, exactly the same thing has happened to me, went into a teleport and the game hung. And I must've sat watching the screen swirl around for about 4 minutes before I realised it was broke.
I hadn't spent long in the fair though, just bought some armours then ploughed on through. Will try it again on the train to work this morning.
― JimD, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 06:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I beat the cathedral; not sure it said anything like quest #1 completed, though. Toad (well, I called him Turd) walked out of the castle in shame for failing to protect the queen, and I guess I'll be going to get him back next since he was a badass in combat.
The balance between melee and magic is nice even at this early stage. Lucca isn't great with the airgun but her magic is booming. Often in RPGs I end up sitting on magic on much later in the game, when it becomes pretty much the only thing I use in combat.
― la saucisse est une femme? (Euler), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 06:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I just played Chrono Trigger for over an hour
― #/.'#/'@ilikecats (g-kit), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 09:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay, the problem with the .nds file is an acknowledged bit of copy protection and fixing it is gonna take some google-fu, time and experimentation. Anybody old hand enough at this to explain how you work patches?
― PLEASE SIT TIGHT WHILE WE MAKE NEW ARRANGEMENTS (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link
you could just emulate the snes version, you know
― thomp, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Yep, I've just been looking into this too.
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=3786
Haven't tried it yet, but I guess you unzip this, plonk your Chrono rom file in the same directory, run the batch then grab and rename the resulting "p4tc3ed.nds" file. I'll have a go in a bit and report back.
And yeah, if it doesn't work I'll switch to snesemu.
― JimD, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
haha yeah the cover copy is great/awful in how it recognises these priorities:
"Welcome to the lavishly illustrated world of Odin Sphere©!
Lands of snow, emerald forests, and chasms of fire beckon you. Follow the threads of an intricately woven story (blah blah) ... the kind of visual experience that every gamer dreams possible, but seldom plays."
― thomp, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
xp
Oh, wait, that's a jp patch. US patch here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?nz5hyxmzxmm
(Although I think my copy is euro, grr).
― JimD, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
i will be fucking with that shortly but BEE CAAAAAREFULBefore trying any p@tch3s or hacked r0mzz, i recommend backing up your entire card, by browsing to your cards drive, Ctrl + A or select all, and copying to a temp folder, if all is clear and everything works, then delete the folder.
― PLEASE SIT TIGHT WHILE WE MAKE NEW ARRANGEMENTS (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I actually do that pretty much every time I plug it into my pc anyway, just so I know my save games are safe.
― JimD, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
This game is fabulous. I don't know if we're, on this thread, supposed to pace things so that we can talk along, but I'm into this now and playing hard (for the 1.5 hrs a day I can get right now). And since this is my first time, I'm sure I can have wild-eyed talk if I do end up ahead.
I spent some time confused at first tonight, after I'd rescued the queen, as to what to do next. Toad/Turd had jumped across the bridge. But then I went to the right places eventually in my wanders and triggered the next events. I ended up back in the present, where I was framed for some bullshit. I busted out of jail, caught up with my babes again, and then as we were cornered by the chancellor and his guards, jumped into another gate. Now I'm way in the future, in a Fallout-like world of mutants and starvation. I helped the starving people find a seed, got some kickass armor and weapons, and located my next gate on the supercomputer. I'll up there again tomorrow.
I am loving the linearity of this, after playing non-linear RPGs for years (eh, mostly Oblivion, which took me a year lol). And I am leveling fast and getting new techs. This is really, really great.
― la saucisse est une femme? (Euler), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Anybody happen to make the patch work?
― PLEASE SIT TIGHT WHILE WE MAKE NEW ARRANGEMENTS (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link
No, but I found a pre-patched file. Email me.
― JimD, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 01:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Pretty sure you can search for a patched version on any major torrent site. That's how I got GTA: CW to work.
― Armageddon Two: Armageddon (dyao), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 01:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Emailed! Would love to start playing tonight, nudge nudge.
― PLEASE SIT TIGHT WHILE WE MAKE NEW ARRANGEMENTS (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link
i swear I have played through the fair about six times in the past few days.
― PLEASE SIT TIGHT WHILE WE MAKE NEW ARRANGEMENTS (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 04:31 (fourteen years ago) link
beat it
somehow it is even more amazing than ever... japan really shoulda just packed it in after this one
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 11:52 (fourteen years ago) link
I made it to the Lavos fight last night, beat the series of "Lavos changes his attack modes" and then got wiped out on the next battle by surprise; I guess I hadn't healed enough and so one of his big attacks took out everyone all at once. Blah. Should I just aim at one side first?
― wide swing juggalo (Euler), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 11:54 (fourteen years ago) link
is that the one with the giant arms? i liked to do full screen attacks w/that one... they regenerate, so dont worry too much about killing them off, just get them out of the way when u can
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 11:56 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah like blast with luminaire? I thought I was doing fine until BLAST fuck what happened? I guess it was cool to see the world end.
― wide swing juggalo (Euler), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 11:57 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, luminaire is your daisy cutter anyway - i'm never not using it when crono's in my party
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 13:19 (fourteen years ago) link
when i beat it just now my party was magus/frog/lucca, so i would do dark matter w/magus and the firefrog double tech w/frog and lucca (forget what it's called, the one that's a giant ass frog that is also on fire)
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link
i prefer ayla / robo / frog for the final battle because their triple tech can take out the left lavos bit in one blow, and cure wave is the best way to keep your party in shape. and also because they are my favourite characters.
― orange (yeah thats right), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I won! This has a terrific ending, too. I think I'll play again, though maybe not until tomorrow.
― wide swing juggalo (Euler), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
okay, now that i got the robot, i'm starting to get in the groove a bit here. wish i could carve out some multi-hour playing periods.
― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
in new game + i went to the right telepod after marle joined @ the fair, beat lavos, and this is where im at right now:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/ct.jpg
??:B
― orange (yeah thats right), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
lol this thread is so insanely spoilery
― Nhex, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
mods delete that post plz
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 03:29 (fourteen years ago) link
tempting
― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 04:39 (fourteen years ago) link
lol I started another game last night b/c I can't quit Marle...and b/c I read some walkthroughs and apparently Magus has a bunch of spells that I never got! He only has 3 spells, Lightning 2, Ice 2, Fire 2 (I think), but apparently he can get a bunch more. And Ayla evidently has some great spells but I didn't use her enough to get them (I won with Chrono, Marle and Lucca just blasting the fuck out of Lavos). And I think Robo has more too. So I'm going to focus on Magus, Ayla, and Robo. It's funny replaying it because obviously I'm walking through all the battles that were tough at first, but it's still taking time to do it because of loading time etc.
What's the earliest point I can fight Lavos at? I guess I have to get to the End of Time at least?
― wide swing juggalo (Euler), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 06:24 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha nope.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 06:27 (fourteen years ago) link
let me put it this way, don't even consider it until you've finished New Game + at least once
― Nhex, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 06:28 (fourteen years ago) link
(trying to get to/beat Lavos before End of Time)
yeah I'm just level 50 now so that's prob. right
― wide swing juggalo (Euler), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 06:30 (fourteen years ago) link
magus has HIDDEN TRIPLE TECHS that u need special items to use... it owns prettty hard
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 07:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah I think I have the special items now (bunch of gemstones) but I don't even have Dark Matter! Which according to walkthroughs is a pretty fine spell.
― wide swing juggalo (Euler), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 07:02 (fourteen years ago) link
hell yes
― Nhex, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 07:06 (fourteen years ago) link
you have to equip it on one of the party members who can perform the triple tech, and then have all the ppl in ur party i think
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah but I also have to have the right max spells for each party member to allow triple techs, and that's what I don't have at present.
― wide swing juggalo (Euler), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 07:08 (fourteen years ago) link
aaahhh right-o
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 07:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Superfluity, Thy Name is Lost Sanctum
Parish criticizing the new sidequests added to the DS version, then goes into a general anti-padding rant. Sounds like they're not worth the trouble, and it's not like the game really needed more content, but it doesn't seem like they usually succeed in these remake additions.
― Nhex, Saturday, 8 August 2009 00:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Huh. I think I skipped the Lost Sanctum on my first playthrough. Maybe I'll try it this time (I'm playing on DS). S/he's right that the game is short enough to make a second playthrough worthwhile. I took about 25 hours on my first playthrough. The Black Omen was a pretty badly designed dungeon I thought, way too much walking through vast boring empty spaces. I guess it showed how cavernous the ship is, but for little payoff. And the combat was dumb by that point too, because I could kill everything in it without magic or healing.
S/he makes a nice point regarding the lengths of contemporary RPGs also. I got burned out on Oblivion, because I have completist tendencies, but after 120+ hours I'd had enough of fetch quest and weak plot (by then I'd long dispensed with the final quest). It was a pity because the assassination quests were actually interesting (relatively speaking) but I just didn't want to be in that universe anymore by then. Plus my 360 started locking up on one of those quests, both the first time and on further reloads from save. So CT's brevity was a virtue I appreciated.
― deep olives (Euler), Saturday, 8 August 2009 07:59 (fourteen years ago) link
JEREMY parish is a dude btw
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Saturday, 8 August 2009 11:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay, I'm officially quitting this as I'm just not enjoying it. Glad I gave it a college try but it's just not quite doing it for me.
― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 04:31 (fourteen years ago) link
did you ever finish this forks
― ( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
lol, i did not enjoy it! my secret shame. just lost interest and never got back into it.
― he he he what would i not eat? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
this is such a great thread. i should be unemployed and play videogames again
― thomp, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
its a good racket if you can get your foot in the door
― ( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
for shame!!!
― Nhex, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
hacked my SNES mini. Wasn't sure I'd be able to play another top-down RPG after Earthbound but here I am. I'm really gutted I didn't go in the Tent of Terror before zapping myself back 1000 years :-(
― Badgers (dog latin), Monday, 12 February 2018 10:40 (six years ago) link
I can't stop listening to this too: https://open.spotify.com/track/713XSUuab0bJX0AGFWUsxd <- one of the best bits of music in a 16 bit game I can think of. Wish there were more decent orchestrated versions of SNES game soundtracks on Spotify
― Badgers (dog latin), Monday, 12 February 2018 10:48 (six years ago) link
sometimes I wanna tell people about the feels I get off this game and then I realise I'm being a weirdo so I'm saying it here
― Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Sunday, 14 October 2018 01:58 (five years ago) link
it's incredible
― crüt, Sunday, 14 October 2018 02:08 (five years ago) link