Superhero comics: What insane story/character developments do avid followers take for granted but would blow the minds of anyone only peripherally aware of them?

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For some reason (read: he's an idiot), Jeph Loeb decided to come up with a new way to say Red Hulk.

Grisly Addams (WmC), Friday, 25 June 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Sadly, though they introduced the Rulk and She-Rulk, they didn't do Roc Ramson. Missed opportunity.

Man, almost forgot they made Rick Jones into the new Abomination, called A-Bomb.

Loeb hurts my brain.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 25 June 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Ruh roh.

I have been forks-style since day one (forksclovetofu), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Of course, Rulk will beget a whole range of rainbow hulks. Orulk, Yulk, Grulk (the original), Blulk, Indiulk, Vulk.

Yes, this is likely an old joke.

Matt M., Friday, 25 June 2010 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

agh, hope to hell Loeb doesn't read this board, because it sounds like something he would actually do

Grisly Addams (WmC), Friday, 25 June 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

lol @ "Indiulk"

Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Friday, 25 June 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

BLULK BLULK BLULK BLULK

I have been forks-style since day one (forksclovetofu), Friday, 25 June 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Indiulk is immature and afraid of the middle parts of his body. All the other *ulks laugh at Indiulk. Indiulk writes furiously in his three-ring binder.

Matt M., Friday, 25 June 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm afraid to even mention the Hulked-Out Heroes and Hulkpool thing...

EZ Snappin, Friday, 25 June 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

This thread is gold (gulk?). Thank you all so much.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Saturday, 26 June 2010 01:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Gwen Stacy getting it on w/the Green Goblin is extra gross, though.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Saturday, 26 June 2010 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't read this new Rulk stuff, but it's kinda sad if they've managed to screw up Hulk so quickly after Greg Pak's awesome run. World War Hulk and especially Planet Hulk were the best Hulk stories I've read in years. Though TBH I would have preferred it if Hulk's outer space adventures would've continued longer, as Pak managed to move Hulk into an interesting new setting and give him a well-fleshed new supporting cast, which is kind of a rare feat with such an old and established character. As fun as WWH was, it was still just the basic Hulk story (Hulk just wants to exist peacefully, but others manage to fuck that up for him, so he goes into an angry rampage) taken to its logical extreme, so it's kinda difficult to think of new things to do with the character after that. The Conan style barbarian-on-the-road-to-kinghood story of Planet Hulk would've provided a better premise for fresh new Hulk stories.

Tuomas, Saturday, 26 June 2010 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Dr. Superman, I don't _think_ Jason Todd has his own comic.

WHO IS READING COMICS NOW, BIG BOY?
http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/107/1078280/batman-the-origin-of-red-hood-20100317034100119_640w.jpg

Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Dr. Superman, you win!

Also: one of Gwen and the Green Goblin's twins currently has his own miniseries.

Douglas, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

(obviously that was intended as overstuffed Gordon Ramsay funny haha and not actual internet doucheface pwnage slapdown)

Just to jump on the dogpile, the last issue of Rise of Arsenal (Q: Where, exactly, is the Rise?) was despicable on all levels and has really made me depressed as a comics lover and a father.

Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 26 June 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

So browsing the comic shelf today, I guess that Thunderbolt Ross turns out to be the Rulk. WTF?

This is still going on. I like Fear Agent, but this is still a weird way to take the Punisher, hell they retitled his book for the last couple of months.
http://warrocketajax.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/frankencastle1.jpg

As wacked out as it might seem, I kind of thought the first issue of that Jason Todd mini-series was decent. It all depends on the follow through...

earlnash, Sunday, 27 June 2010 05:15 (fourteen years ago) link

If I was a comic writer, Rick Jones would be the coolest guy in the room. I think that character is WAY under played and potential under appreciated. Here you have a true everyman character that is basically every stoner dude with an acoustic guitar that has somehow ended up up tied to the origin of the Hulk, a member of the Avengers, serious cog in the Kree/Skrull War, side kick to Captain America, pretty much 1/2 of Captain Marvel and whatever wacky shit he has gotten into for the last 20 years that I have not experienced.

I keep hoping that Bendis gets into Rick Jones and does some more with him, as from that small Alias story, he kind of gets what you could do with the character.

Pretty much him and Snapper Carr should be seriously kick ass characters for some of these guys to use.

earlnash, Sunday, 27 June 2010 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link

"For some reason (read: he's an idiot), Jeph Loeb ___________" is pretty much the reason/apologia for everything Loeb has ever done.

P.S. I am continuing to buy and read Pak Hulk and completely ignoring the existence of Loeb Rulk. Don't really feel like I'm missing much aside from potential incompetence-induced rage-outs.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd probably have kept reading if it had stayed Planet Hulk. That was some entertaining stuff, even if it was sort of Jarella meets Spartacus.

Oh, my favorite only-fans-would-get-it development from DC lately is Deadman resurrecting baby birds.

Matt M., Monday, 28 June 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Since there's no general 'Jeph Loeb sucks and is awful' thread: prepare for all of Marvel's future TV and video projects to suck and be awful.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link

why

why does this man continue to get work

Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

is "meets deadlines" really THAT much more important than "has ideas"

Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

shaking my damn head
gritting my damn teeth

Grisly Addams (WmC), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Remember what happened to Heroes? We got THAT SAME GUY to oversee the new Spider-Man movies!

Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Monday, 28 June 2010 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

(only not, since it's just TV and video, so who cares, COME ON it was gonna suck anyway)

Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Monday, 28 June 2010 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

come on guys

and writer of hit films Commando and Teen Wolf.

dude is obviously at the top of his game right now

how much can a koala ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (sic), Monday, 28 June 2010 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Holy shit, Jeph Loeb wrote Commando?!

Tuomas, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Thought of another one:

Tony Stark wiped his brain to stop Iron Man tech being used by Norman Osborn, but Pepper Potts gets him to install a backup brain. Unfortunately he's about as good at remembering to do backups as the rest of us, and the one he uses is a couple of years old meaning he has forgotten the last couple of years of Marvel continuity, including the events of Civil War.

This included Bucky Barnes, who Stark made Captain America in accordance with Steve Rogers' last wishes, telling him that Steve Rogers got shot.

BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 12:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Remember what happened to Heroes? We got THAT SAME GUY to oversee the new Spider-Man movies!

If they're rebooting to high-school Spidey, then Peter will likely be a male version of petulant Claire. Sigh.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Something something Wonder Woman something something leather jacket something something 2010.

Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Immediately reminded me of the '90s costume, though that was more ridiculous I guess - could be worse. The only thing that looks a little out of place is the jacket clashing with the classic top (though I think might as well have ditched that too, for these purposes). I'm kinda surprised they didn't go with a cleaner looking illustration. More bothersome is the idea that she almost has Superman's origin now (thanks JMS). Do wonder if she'll ever have curly hair again.

Nhex, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Holy shit, Jeph Loeb wrote Commando?!

Yes, Tuomas said that but I thought I'd repeat for emphasis.

And am I the only one who thought of he mid-90s Avengers bomber jacket costumes with the new WW costume?

Matt M., Wednesday, 30 June 2010 06:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Giving Wonder Woman Superman's origin story and turning Superman into Kwai Chang Caine is some straight up bullshit.

Grisly Addams (WmC), Monday, 5 July 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Wonder Woman has an origin?

Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Monday, 5 July 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

So...Mark Waid, what's on your pull list?

Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 10 July 2010 06:05 (thirteen years ago) link

blimp

four months pass...

Black Panther - now no longer king of Wakanda, he is now running a diner in NYC.

earlnash, Saturday, 18 December 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

what part? hell's kitchen? or is he in brooklyn?

I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 18 December 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

He's the new man without fear, as Daredevil has gone walkabout.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 18 December 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

this thread's amazing

Princess TamTam, Saturday, 18 December 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

so hell's kitchen then

I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 18 December 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Yep.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 18 December 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I still think they should have done some sort of audition for Daredevil, or maybe it's a rehabilitation program for superheroes who have done terrible things, they have to go through a year of being the most put-upon and abused hero in the MU.

Basically, I just think Cyclops would make a great Daredevil.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 19 December 2010 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I know one of the things we missed in this thread; Ben Grimm died and was dead for the best part of a year iirc and was brought back to life when the other three went to Heaven and persuaded God to change his mind.

That's all grist to the mill, I suppose, but God turned out to be JACK KIRBY.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Sunday, 19 December 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, and it's revealed God has a collaborator which it's not that hard to work out is supposed to be Satan.

So the Devil is STAN LEE.

progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Sunday, 19 December 2010 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Also: one of Gwen and the Green Goblin's twins currently has his own miniseries.

?

R Baez, Sunday, 19 December 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

ALF - that lovable alien from the planet Melmac who brought the comic hi-jinx to tv screens during the 80s?

He's part of the Marvel Universe.

R Baez, Sunday, 19 December 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

That's not at all true.

Stay J0rdan Fresh (sic), Monday, 20 December 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

FUN FACT: The High Evolutionary hypothesizes that the Phoenix was responsible for the destruction of Melmac.

Roy Thomas probably knows.

R Baez, Monday, 20 December 2010 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link


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