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also re: Miracleman - Gargunza rapes/molests the sleeping miracle-woman or whatever iirc (altho I can't remember if this is shown explicitly or just referenced)

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

but yeah I haven't read those in forever either. I think my brother has the individual issues.

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

don't remember any rapes in the bojeffries saga

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

or maxwell the magic cat

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

or captain britain

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

or big numbers

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, but he never finished that

Number None, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

or warpsmith

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

or skizz

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

or halo jones

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

or top ten

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

Well there's statutory in Top Ten. And the whole teen sidekick prostitution ring thing.

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 12 July 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

plus SMAX has rape, and that's kinda Top Ten

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 12 July 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

so basically all the early British stuff which I've never read and for a long time was unavailable in the US is rape-free. glad we cleared that up

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 July 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

oh right, didn't realise when you said "has Moore ever done a run on a comic that didn't feature a rape scene at some point? serious question" you actually meant "please validate my ignorance"

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

He's matured into the rape fantasist we all know and love.

Neil Jung (WmC), Thursday, 12 July 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

lol

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 July 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe only after he started working in American comics then...

Matt M., Thursday, 12 July 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

America brings out the rapist in everyone. Just ask Tosh.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 12 July 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

Peter Tosh is a rapist?!

Tuomas, Thursday, 12 July 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

"Legalize it"

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 12 July 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

Peter Tork is a papist!?!

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 12 July 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

No rape in Killing Joke, just the jolly breaking of a woman's spine.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 12 July 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

And of course the rape in LoEG is gay, and the raypee is invisible so it doesn't count.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 12 July 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

i thought invisible guy was the perp?

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 12 July 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

Nah, Mr Hyde totally bum raped the Invisible Man. To death.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 12 July 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but the Invisible Man was the original rapist

Number None, Thursday, 12 July 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, he's raping merrily away in the girls' boarding school

for a long time was unavailable in the US

lol when

¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Thursday, 12 July 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

in the 80s when I was a kid and couldn't buy them at comic book stores

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 July 2012 03:24 (eleven years ago) link

Mina gets assaulted in the first or second issue of the first series. Or at least threatened to be assaulted by swarthy foreigners.

Matt M., Friday, 13 July 2012 04:03 (eleven years ago) link

in the 80s when I was a kid and couldn't buy them at comic book stores

these were out in TPBs from 1986 which iirc was the 80s

¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Friday, 13 July 2012 04:44 (eleven years ago) link

No rape in Killing Joke, just the jolly breaking of a woman's spine.

Am I the only one who felt rape was totally implied in that scene, and the only reason Moore didn't explicitly use it was because it was a mainstream DC book and a major character?

Tuomas, Friday, 13 July 2012 06:33 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, probably.

Desire is withered away from the sons of men! (aldo), Friday, 13 July 2012 06:49 (eleven years ago) link

these were out in TPBs from 1986 which iirc was the 80s

if you're trying to tell me that I saw them in stores when I was a kid you are sadly mistaken

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 July 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

I think I saw some Maxwell the Magic Cat strips reprinted in a Comics Journal interview story once tho

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 July 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

There was some US floppy which was printing Bojeffries as a backup every issue back then. Dalgoda? I also remember being able to get D.R. and Quinch p easily.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Friday, 13 July 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

Dalgoda yes. I have those - they are good! I was buying pretty much everything with Alan Moore's name on it around that time. If I had seen Halo Jones or Captain Britain TPBs I would have bought them. I did not.

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

DR and Quinch was reprinted in Warrior... iirc? (along with Miracleman and the OG b&W V for Vendetta)

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

warpsmith and skizz I don't think I ever even heard of. I just think it's weird to act like these were widely-read/widely available on a par with Swamp Thing/Miracleman/V for Vendetta etc. they strike me as pretty stereotypical insignificant early work

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

stereotypicalLY

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

I bought MAXWELL THE MAGIC CAT collections in the mid-80s, but they only showed up in really big comic shops (only saw them in a couple across all of Southern California.) Moore could sell superheroes, but strips were another matter.

Matt M., Friday, 13 July 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

When was 2000 A.D. Monthly coming out in the US? I think that's where I read a lot of this stuff.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

My LCS in Memphis had Maxwell collections, but I passed on them. I think the only Warpsmith story I've seen was one in the Atomeka anthology A1. (The Bojeffries stories in those were better anyway.)

Neil Jung (WmC), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

(warrior #4 story here as jpgs http://thewarriorscomicbookden.blogspot.co.uk/2009/08/saga-of-swamp-thing-32-greatest-comic.html plus links to cbr copies of that and the rest, i think)

koogs, Friday, 13 July 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

((not tried links, required sign-up, maybe expired))

koogs, Friday, 13 July 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

wtf def never seen that before!

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 July 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

warrior stuff really wasn't readily available in the US even through the 90's. I mean you COULD find it but it didn't even really trumpet the fact that it was moore and I did hunt it down over the years.

the fact that these comics were or weren't available in america is BESIDE THE POINT. Shakey asked: are there any runs of comics by alan moore w/out rape in them, and i offered a few examples of runs of comics by alan moore w/out rape in them. i'm sure there are others. now i think WmC raises the interesting question of why this troubling repetition of rape as theme and scene - and i agree it exists in many of the examples cited - was far less common during the early part of alan's (mostly british) career. and i'm sure there are many gd answers - the american comics were less stringently edited, over time it became an idee fixee, whatev - that don't involve the merits or o/wise of euro comic distribution in america. that's all.

i managed to acquire some v nice smokeable hemp produce earlier on today which is why i'm up too late discussing this stuff but now i shld go to bed. gnight ilcers.

Ward Fowler, Friday, 13 July 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

I guess I'm just as dismissive of that early stuff as Alan is lol, it's a pretty small/largely insignificant part of his ouevre imho, things he did before his true rape-y interests came to the fore haha

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 July 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link

anything i havent read is insignificant - Shakey Mo Collir.e

Black_vegeta (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 13 July 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link


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