in retrospect, how did Rob Liefeld ever manage to hold down a artist job in the comics industry?

Via Douglas:
http://progressiveboink.com/archive/robliefeld.html

just giggling my ass off at work reading that.

I saw that during the blackout and meant to post it when we came back up. I'm glad you guys got to see it.

"He wears a baseball cap backwards, and when he turns it around it's still backwards."

"Your characters aren't shitting out ladders when they jump."

I can't figure whether liefeld, miller or mcfarlane is the main reason why I don't post here except to talk about old graphic novel reprints, and looking at that, I'm pretty sure the answer is liefeld.

Jesus.

I haven't read them in years, but I remember thinking that Todd McFarlene's run of Spider-man and especially the Hulk with Peter David that were pretty good. McFarlene was really good at drawing fight scenes and action. There was always a bunch of detail of glass and rock flying all over the place.

I completely missed the whole Image comics boom/bust from the 90s. At least from the couple episodes I saw, I thought that Spawn cartoon HBO did was OK. I never read the comic.

I've got the Hulk run on a DVD, so I may have to revisit those issues. I thought the Mr. Fixit issues were pretty cool way to bring back the gray Hulk. Peter David was one of the better mainstream comic writers of the late 80s.

At least from what I have read of McFarlene, he seems like a douche, so i can understand the blow back, but I remember liking those Marvel issues he did.

#24 won't load for me. :(

McFarlane did have a great run on AS-M but jesus, Image was so horrible. Dark times.

SPAWN #11, written by Frank Miller, is the worst comic I've ever read. I still remember vividly how awful and repellent it was.

Via Douglas:
http://progressiveboink.com/archive/robliefeld.html

http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/assets/product/0618709274.gif

so

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/08/the-real-crime-was-the-hat/

Thanx 4 new screenname.

I agree with Cameron Stewart that this was a pretty juvenile prank. Since people were willing to buy shitloads of his crappy comics in the 1990s, is it really his fault that he saw no reason to improve his craft?

Dude's a tool, I mean, everything in the tone of that blog post certifies him as such. I don't think artists should have to "apologize" for messing up characters (except perhaps to their creators?), either, whole thing's pretty retarded. Plus, you know, TAKING A STAND against Rob Liefeld in 2009.

I don't agree with your argument tho Tuomas, of course the guy should have kept working at his craft! He should have recognized the adulation of the public for the shallow thing it is and followed his muse to ever more challenging territories, allowing the talent we saw on X-Force and Youngblood to bloom to its full potential ;)

The thing is, though... that it did bloom to its full potential.

btw:

http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2009/07/IMG_6988.jpg

^^^^ awesome

hahahahaha

For an incredibly hatable guy he is extremely likable!

he has the pleasant joyful demeanor of new money! not like those sour new england types.

(am looking for a picture of gary brodsky frowning for contrast)

of course the guy should have kept working at his craft!

any minute now, he's going to break out those life drawings that he told Hart Fisher would blow Fisher's mind. that was only, what, eleven years ago?

If Rob Liefeld revealed himself to actually be a highly-competent draftsman who had been churning out wretched garbage for years simply for a larf, I think I would love Rob Liefeld to the max.

any minute now, he's going to break out those life drawings that he told Hart Fisher would blow Fisher's mind. that was only, what, eleven years ago?

It'll be so weird when he finally realeases those and it turns out they're all oil paintings of the Keyboard Cat.

"If Rob Liefeld revealed himself to actually be a highly-competent draftsman"

this would be a great prank by the robster for sure, but also justifies all sorts of abuse, including throwing marvel instructional books at him. anything mean-spirited about liefeld-bashing evaporates if it turns out he wasn't earnestly trying to the best of his ability.

Not Liefeld, but crikey:

http://i.newsarama.com/images/12_astonishing_x_men__xenogenesis_1_02.jpg

man you give a guy one issue of KING magazine and the next thing you know the white queen has a MASSIVE ASS

that's a swipe from the two gargantuassed chicks on the beach that made the rounds some years ago and I claim my five dollars

has to be on confounded's culture corner thread

Not Liefeld, but

Can we have an actual name then?

The link says it's Kaare Andrews. I think he's the guy who wrote and drew that weird Spider-Man dystopia story, where Mary Jane was killed by Spider-Man's radioactive sperm. I thought he did a nice enough Milleresque job there, but the pic above is a bit silly. I wouldn't mind him drawing superheroines with some proper ass, as not so many artists tend to do that, but the butt-to-waist ration on Storm and Emma is ridiculous. Also, the ankles on the girl on the left look seriously anorexic. He's not Liefeld-level crappy though, for example I think he's pretty good at drawing faces.

He's most likely still better than Simone Bianchi, who did a terrible, terrible job on Astonishing X-Men. I'd take big butts over Bianchi's stiff and lifeless painted figures any day. And at least Andrews can draw some proper action scenes, with Bianchi's crappy art they were almost impossible to follow.

kudos doc casino on the footwork reference

Why has he never just created a character like The Pouch, with every inch of human anatomy obscured by countless pouches? Play to your strengths, Rob!

why must you constantly underestimate this man

I love that the pouch gun is firing... a pouch

that literally is the best Liefeld drawing I've ever seen

Agreed - tho the intersection of gun & left hand still isn't quite right.

that literally is the best Liefeld drawing I've ever seen

OMG, I...I honestly thought I was just being a wisenheimer.

It's simultaneously his best and most self-aware drawing ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLFNU_-K54M
Only watched bits of it but was amused by Liefeld saying "you can have a sword and a gun!" reminding me of an image Sic posted above. He does an impression of Alan Moore talking about Pulp Fiction and a bit about Stephen Platt hating him now.

Liefeld memoir Robservations forthcoming. Or, y'know, at least like the first two chapters and then maybe a third chapter seven years from now.

God help me but I think I need to read this POS.

a+++++++++ title, quite possibly there are not enough plus signs in all of math to convey how stupid/roflmao/stupid that title is. like he's been jealously guarding this brilliant little nugget since elementary school and he's finally ready to share it with the world. bless that fucking dork.

ROBSERVATIONS

Lock human culture

I've Got My Own Autobiography To Do