Yup
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 28 February 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKUp3lP2jSc
― PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link
Ha, that's great.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 28 February 2014 17:02 (ten years ago) link
Larry David as The Watcher
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 28 February 2014 17:16 (ten years ago) link
Stephen Colbert as Dr. Impossible sealed it
― Nhex, Saturday, 1 March 2014 19:41 (ten years ago) link
dang, i guess murray still hadn't shed his chicago accent cuz its crazy thick
― AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 1 March 2014 20:17 (ten years ago) link
http://images.tcj.com/2014/02/5-KirbyPulpSplash3-650x684.jpghttp://www.tcj.com/reviews/the-secret-history-of-marvel-comics-jack-kirby-and-the-moonlighting-artists-at-martin-goodmans-empire/
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Monday, 12 May 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link
short version: he was a greedy man but that's forgivable because something good came out of his evil
― Nhex, Thursday, 29 May 2014 07:10 (ten years ago) link
Marvel and the Kirby estate have settled out of court.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/marvel-jack-kirby-estate-settlement-735921
― it's taco science, but it works like taco magic (WilliamC), Friday, 26 September 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link
Frustrating. I wanted to see some legal ripples from this.
― von Daniken Donuts (Jon Lewis), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, me too. But both sides had reason to be nervous.
― it's taco science, but it works like taco magic (WilliamC), Friday, 26 September 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link
yeah, disappointing altho I suppose it's better than a ruling in favor of Marvel (imo)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 September 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
I'd guess the billions being made off those movies pretty much made it a good investment to make right and end this business risk. It's kind of sad it took Marvel (and others) making a few billion dollars off those Kirby characters in movies for it to happen, but better late than never.
Marvel was pretty short sided with Jack Kirby in the early 70 when they ran him out the door, but the comic industry of that time was pretty similar to the recording industry in that it was greasy as you could get. If they would have made Jack Kirby some type of limited partner back then, they would have ended up owning a ton more properties.
If we use the super hero multiple Earth's analogy, I kind of hope there is one out there where Jack Kirby got to do everything he ever wanted and made a ton of cash. I read his Marvel and DC comics and wonder how cool it would it be to have Kirby be able to have the Fantastic Four and Thor be able to interact with the Fourth World characters. The story ideas that could have happened are kind of endless.
― earlnash, Friday, 26 September 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link
I have to assume marvel made an eight figure payment + court costs to pacify the family; resolving this probably makes funding for future films much easier to secure/talking out of my ass would be curious to hear from anyone who is close enough to the case to share better informed opinions
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Friday, 26 September 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link
Evanier: "If you're coming to this page in search of details and commentary, you've come to the wrong place. I will be saying nothing about it other that I am real, real happy. And I'm sure Jack and his wife Roz, if they're watching this from wherever they are, are real, real, real happy."
― it's taco science, but it works like taco magic (WilliamC), Friday, 26 September 2014 22:54 (nine years ago) link
So yeah, way into eight figures.
― it's taco science, but it works like taco magic (WilliamC), Friday, 26 September 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link
to make evanier happy on that level, i'd have to think so.
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Friday, 26 September 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link
Lol yup
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 27 September 2014 01:37 (nine years ago) link
resolving this probably makes funding for future films much easier to secure
how will poor Disney scrape together pennies for their next low-budget Avengers flick
― Starland Vocal Gland (sic), Saturday, 27 September 2014 13:18 (nine years ago) link
aw, you know that's not what i mean. They're moving hundreds of millions of dollars in financing against potential return of films that won't be on screen until 2018; removing any potential variables that could give a bank even the slightest pause has gotta be considered a major priority. without that leverage, i can't imagine this suit ending the same way; i assume marvel would just tie it up in litigation for another decade and roll the dice.
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 27 September 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link
Kurt Busiek laying it down on the background to the ruling.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 11:49 (nine years ago) link
Bah, let's try that again
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 11:50 (nine years ago) link
That rings true.
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 14:22 (nine years ago) link
Interesting post, thanks
― Nhex, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, thanks for the link. That's the most lucid summation of the situation I've read.
― Portly Backgammon (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 18:50 (nine years ago) link
anyone know what's up with vol 2 of the fourth world omnibus? been on a bit of a kirby kick recently so i picked up the other three for reasonable prices but vol 2 is going for crazy money everywhere. did dc only print six copies or something?
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 24 November 2014 13:08 (nine years ago) link
I was obsessively monitoring the used prices on Amazon until I found a copy that was less insanely-priced than has become the norm. But still insanely-priced.
I don't know why this happens and it drives me nuts (currently fighting the fight with one of the Peanuts slipcase collections that's going for like $400 even though both of the individual books are still in print). Like, no one is going to pay $200 for this collection of old and rare comics that you can purchase individually for <$200, so just stop it.
― for more fun visit www.combos.com (Old Lunch), Monday, 24 November 2014 14:39 (nine years ago) link
Might be because vol 2 is the best/has the most famous stories in it (eg the Pact etc.)?
― Οὖτις, Monday, 24 November 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link
Been super entertained by the Kirby Thors lately - it goes without saying, but they are *crazed*.
Also - I have to admit, outside of Fantastic Four, I tend to skip the dialogue and just look at the pretty pictures for Kirby stuff. Am I missing anything?
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 24 November 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link
Also - this is a nice collection of stuff - especially this
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 24 November 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link
mark evanier's kirby book has a bunch of lovely reproductions of little-seen-but-amazing work like that 'galactic head' painting.
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 24 November 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
I'm always weirded out by things like this too. Like, if the entire series is OOP why just that one... but it happens surprisingly often, like perhaps there was a lower print run of a certain volume or something.
At least it's a fairly safe bet the omnibuses (or at least the material within) will be reprinted at some point...
― Nhex, Monday, 24 November 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
Spirit Archive #14 is the same way. I hate that shit.
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 November 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link
dying at this:http://40.media.tumblr.com/f239068e19bc3498e0cf50ddfd9398ac/tumblr_mtc7tcaAnw1qzoglfo3_500.jpg
― Οὖτις, Monday, 24 November 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link
There were single Dungeon collections (almost pocket size, <100 pages) going for two to three hundred quid last year.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 24 November 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
Just grabbed Evanier's Kirby book online for cheap, on a whim after reading Bizzaro G's post. Thanks!
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 24 November 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link
I stupidly sold all of my Abnett & Lanning cosmic Marvel trades a couple years back when I was broke, and they naturally all skyrocketed in price around the time that Guardians of the Galaxy came out because Marvel is ridiculously awful at taking full advantage of their successes. Thankfully, they've slowly been catching up with new reprints, and an omnibus of Annihilation: Conquest (the storyline that introduced the new Guardians) will be coming out next summer (one year after the film was released...).
― for more fun visit www.combos.com (Old Lunch), Monday, 24 November 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link
what's up with these new Marvel reprints (Epics? I think they're called?) I saw one for Kirby-era Silver Surfer stuff and one for Kirby-era Thor and they looked pretty nice, full color, etc.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 24 November 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link
this spreadhttp://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/2/27500/952073-new_gods__v1__3___page_5.jpg
got me thinking about artists reproducing/referencing other panels - is this one of the most reproduced panels ever or what? Close homages to it appear in Swamp Thing:http://files1.comics.org//img/gcd/covers_by_id/16/w200/16032.jpg?5767558948402809120
in this issue of the New Gods revival:http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lu9YYYF_A2s/VLRg9pdfQDI/AAAAAAABG3k/dXEOxn0WLJI/s1600/newgods18-08.jpg
and iirc it also shows up in one of Morrison's JLA issues(?)
what other iconic panels have received this treatment, where it seems like the artists just get a kick out of replicating the original?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
well swamp thing link is broken and I can't find a scan of it but that's supposed to be the double-page spread from no. 62
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
Veitch has knowingly (and subconsciously, via Rare Bit Fiends) copped Kirby a number of times, but he does it really well imo.
― Steak Sauce On My Cummerbund (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link
Veitch named his son Kirby.
― oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
A comics historian of my acquaintance once told me that this the most-swiped comics image of all time:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/35/3a/d9/353ad94bbfc5d0a0974bc89ebf946f9c.jpg
Certain Marvel artists were definitely told to copy Kirby's work as closely as possible
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
yeah I'm more interested in the wholesale swiping of images/panels, esp if it was done as an obvious homage (less interested in things like Giffen getting caught out for swiping Munoz and Sampayo for ex.). Obviously artists ape styles all the time, but that's not what I was getting at.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
I've never seen that Triton thing, would love to see some examples of where that got reproduced - it certainly doesn't look that spectacular to me
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link
similar to how Spider-Man's first cover appearance and Action Comics #1 or Fantastic Four #1 have been endlessly referenced, but in the context of panels
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 21:32 (nine years ago) link
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/uncanny-x-men-132-pic1-wolverine.jpghttp://static.flickr.com/60/172675035_1eeb365615_o.jpg
i'm sure there are lots of others but i'm blanking right now
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 23:01 (nine years ago) link
other homages to the byrne panel I mean
ooh good call
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 23:18 (nine years ago) link
yeah def
― Nhex, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 03:14 (nine years ago) link