and based solely on one recommendation on this thread (and my own curiosity), I think i'm gonna get the premium Archie Humble Bundle and report back as to what they've been doing with the character.
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 January 2015 06:23 (nine years ago) link
https://www.humblebundle.com/books
oh and a few volumes of the work of marc-antoine mathieu; kinda enjoying it.
If these include "Julius Corentin Acquefacques" books, they should not be read in digital format, because a large part of them is how Mathieu uses the physical format (a comic book made of paper) as part of the story. Like, the first book ("L'Origine") has a literal hole in it; one panel is missing and there's a hole in its place, and when you read the comic and you come to that page, at first through the hole you see a panel from two pages ahead, and that plays into the story, with the characters unexpectedly playing out future events and then commenting on that, and when you turn the page, now you can see a panel from two pages before, and again the characters react to this weird reoccurence of past events. This is one my very favourite meta tricks ever pulled in a comic, but sadly it cannot be replicated in digital format.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 22 January 2015 08:31 (nine years ago) link
thanks for the background; this stuff isn't available in paper format in the US. If you'd like to mail me a copy, awesome; otherwise I'll puzzle it out in digital scanlation
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 January 2015 08:40 (nine years ago) link
> sadly it cannot be replicated in digital format.
can't they just copy the panels?
― koogs, Thursday, 22 January 2015 09:49 (nine years ago) link
Well yeah, but if you read a scanned page you wouldn't know that the repetition of panels is because of a hole in the page, and the existence of the hole is actually an explicit part of the plot, it's all very meta and breaking-the-fourth-wall.
Forks, sorry, I don't have a copy ot the book, I've always just borrowed it from the library. But since you now know about the hole thing, just pay attention to the two consecutive pages where a panel seem to be weirdly out of order, and the characters react to that, that's where the whole is supposed to be. You should have no problem with the whole meta aspect once you know that.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 22 January 2015 14:12 (nine years ago) link
In general, I think it's a shame that comic book artists don't take advantage of the format like that more often... I remember when I first read "L'Origine", at first I was like, wtf, someone's cut hole to this comic, and the feeling of surprise and joy I got when I realized the hole was a part of the story was just awesome! The only other comic I can think of that takes advantage of how paper comics are physically read is Jason Shiga's Elsewhere. (Don't want to say anything more not to spoil it, but all who like meta in their comics should check that one out... It's essentially an existential "Choose Your Own Adventure" story in a comic book form.)
― Tuomas, Thursday, 22 January 2015 14:20 (nine years ago) link
probably the cost prohibitions, I would guess
― Nhex, Thursday, 22 January 2015 14:43 (nine years ago) link
Ware's Building Stories wouldn't really work in a non-physical format. Building Stories v similar to 'novel-in-a-box' The Unfortunates by B S Johnson, who also had holes cut into the pages of his second novel, Albert Angelo.
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 22 January 2015 14:54 (nine years ago) link
as much as i'm not stoked for the madness, i've been enjoying all the hints about universes colliding that bendis has been dropping in ultimate spider man
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
loonies being dragged through the background of police station dialogue like ITS COMING, ALL THE UNIVERSES ARE GONNA COLLAPSE INTO ONE
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link
yeah, those were pretty amusing
― Nhex, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
Read #1 of Captain America, Fantastic Four and Incredible Hulk this week. FF was great, might post some longer thoughts on it this weekend.
Also making my way through Yoshiro Tatsumi's A Drifting Life, about a chapter a day. Sooo good, I love the long, slow burn of it.
― dutch_justice, Friday, 23 January 2015 04:16 (nine years ago) link
https://kangaratmurdersoc.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/animal-man-10-psycho-pirate.jpg
― bob seger's silver bullet gland (sic), Friday, 23 January 2015 04:41 (nine years ago) link
^ a loony, yesterday*
*1990
― bob seger's silver bullet gland (sic), Friday, 23 January 2015 04:45 (nine years ago) link
I got the first issue of Jim Starlin's Thanos vs. Hulk a week or so back. After you read bunches of modern super hero comics, you read this Starlin issue and it's like 1982 again. Colors are a little bleh gray on the book, but it was pretty fun. The thing totally read like an old style Marvel comic, which was kind of novel.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 04:24 (nine years ago) link
Got Tom Sutton's Creepy Things today. Hope they do a second volume because there's quite a lot of good stuff not included. Love the way these Yoe Books are designed.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
Finally read the much-ballyhhod Ros Chast memoir, which was actually pretty great in a depressing way
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 02:22 (nine years ago) link
new bitch planet today
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
is that 2 or 3, i haven't been to the shop in a minute
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 2 February 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link
2
― mh, Monday, 2 February 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link
Alfred Bester, Patricia Highsmith, Mickey Spillane and Manly Wade Wellman.
Are there any other writers who were better known for their prose who did comics in the golden and silver ages? And are any of these comics that notable for being good?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 14:55 (nine years ago) link
neil gaiman
― koogs, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link
(oh, missed the golden / silver bit)
dashiell hammett's agent x-9 is just being reissued nowhttp://www.tcj.com/checking-in-with-dean-mullaney/
― the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link
George Melly, Barry Took, Humphrey Lyttelton, Barry Norman and Compton Mackenzie all wrote scripts for the newspaper strip Flook in the 50s, 60s and 70s.
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link
Forks beat me to Dashiell Hammett. That interview mentions the fact that Leslie Charteris, creator of The Saint, worked on X-9 briefly after Hammett.
― it takes 14 to make a baby (WilliamC), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link
i will DEFINITELY be getting this new basil wolverton bookhttp://www.tcj.com/creeping-death-and-snakemeat-basil-wolverton-and-max-clotfelter/i mean, my godhttp://images.tcj.com/2015/01/creep12.jpg
― the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
I was looking at that last week and the panel arrangements of the early comics look really weird.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
also just zipped through the three volumes of jodo/moebius' Madwoman of the Sacred Heart... what a wobbly, wild read! The art is really first rate.
― the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
Barry Humphries wrote The Adventures Of Barry McKenzie as a weekly strip before the films. (Obviously better known as a monologue and dialogue writer and improviser than prose writer, but has about ten fiction & non-fiction & memoir books under his belt too.)
― oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link
Patricia Highsmith did comics?
― as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/04/24/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-152/
Scroll down a bit to see the Highsmith bit. I once heard Ripley was based on a comic artist she knew but I can't remember where I read that.
I think Spillane mostly wrote those 1-2 page text stories. Apparently Bill Everett and Spillane had some sort of grudge. I always wondered if those text stories that nobody ever read in old Comics had lots of brilliant ones scattered across them.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 23:05 (nine years ago) link
Oh man what an unloved unhallowed body of work, those text one-pagers.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 23:18 (nine years ago) link
I once made an effort to read them, but that was late on in the time I was reading those anthologies. I wish I had read all the ones I came across.
Seems like there's no cheap option for those Alfred Bester DC comics.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 23:24 (nine years ago) link
Bester co-created Solomon Grundy too.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link
Nameless #1 was a fun read. When you get down to the core plot, the bad guys in all of Grant Morrison's comics are really the same folk aren't they? I don't say that as a bad thing, but it is his story hook in many ways.
― earlnash, Friday, 6 February 2015 05:19 (nine years ago) link
while reading it i kept wondering if this was just an artist's rendition of morrison's automatic writing journal
― Mordy, Friday, 6 February 2015 14:34 (nine years ago) link
Patricia Highsmith was once set up on a date with Stan Lee. http://www.scottedelman.com/2010/04/04/stan-lee-was-only-interested-in-stan-lee/
― like working at a jewelry store and not knowing about bracelets (Dr. Superman), Monday, 9 February 2015 01:15 (nine years ago) link
love the url there; clearly not a giving lover
― the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 February 2015 04:55 (nine years ago) link
The one review I read of Bitch Planet talked about how odd and inauthentic the use of ersatz Ben-Day patterns was - some guy has recoloured a bunch of pages with an actually 70s-reminiscent style, and not only does it look GREAT, but wow at how ugly the original colouring is generally:
http://jonathanbogart.tumblr.com/post/110308310125/aintgotnoladytronblues-twiststreet-schwabco-i
― oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Monday, 9 February 2015 05:32 (nine years ago) link
Felt like the whole comic was kind of a letdown after the title -- found it quite difficult to follow -- ODY-C too. Maybe I don't have patience for comics that involve effort.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 9 February 2015 11:42 (nine years ago) link
I'm really appreciating this coloring talk! I think it's something that bothers me in some titles but not at a conscious level.
Some of the art where the colorist work is obviously a collaboration with clearly defined palettes definitely is a strength of some titles. The Hellboy/BPRD titles, with their limited colors and shading, or most of the titles drawn by Mike Allred (notably often colored by his wife) are very appealing in this regard.
― mh, Monday, 9 February 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, February 9, 2015 11:42 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
definitely felt ODY-C was difficult to follow--had to read a few pages a few times--but idk had no trouble following BP. a bunch of people i've heard say they were lost at the climax though
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 February 2015 16:06 (nine years ago) link
I haven't had a problem understanding BP; my only problem is understanding why people are thinking it's great. ODY-C is a hot mess.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 February 2015 16:34 (nine years ago) link
http://instagram.com/p/y5W5dqpeGQ/
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 9 February 2015 23:15 (nine years ago) link
never heard of eternauta, interest piqued
These are GORGEOUShttp://50watts.com/Okamoto-Kiichi
― the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 February 2015 23:26 (nine years ago) link
Wow, love those
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 13:10 (nine years ago) link
Just grabbed 1 & 2 of They're Not Like Us to see what all the fuss was about, so far not really doing it for me. Feels like a Wanted-style spin on like "what if X-Men were. . .bad"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
to see what all the fuss was about
literally heard of this for the first time in the words immediately preceding that quote
― oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 03:50 (nine years ago) link