just read a scanlated copy of atar gull, that's a helluva piece of work therehttp://siguealconejoblanco.es/comics/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Atar-Gull-011.jpghttp://www.avant-verlag.de/comic/atar_gull_oder_die_geschichte_eines_modellsklaven
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 March 2015 22:22 (nine years ago) link
I got Jojo's Bizarre Adventure part 1/book 1 and Celestial Bibendum. Kinda itching to get those Koike omnibuses but should hold back.
I feel like there's been a huge increase in hardcovers for comics over the past few years and although it looks nicer I'd prefer cheaper books.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 23:10 (nine years ago) link
This is a problem for me too, kind of a big one. I basically can't afford comics anymore.
― a date with density (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 23:16 (nine years ago) link
How much does it typically add to the cost?
I still don't understand why hardcovers are such a big deal. The only disadvantage for me is that softcovers curl up in the winter cold.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 23:42 (nine years ago) link
I remember Steve Ditko Space Wars being £10 extra in hardcover. I thought that was nuts.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 23:47 (nine years ago) link
...?
If a new cartoonist's debut is a US$35 hardcover rather than a $3 pamphlet, then this adds $32 to the price, plus $15-20 to postage, all before the exchange rate. This is p obviously a barrier to sampling new artists
― oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 04:35 (nine years ago) link
I understand the priciness of hardcovers is not good, but on the other hand I have so many old paperback comics where the pages have started falling out because the glue tends to weaken with age, so these days I'm always buying bound/hardcover versions of comics if they're available.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 07:58 (nine years ago) link
But most of the comics I read I borrow from the library, I only buy the ones that I really want and/or that aren't available in local libraries.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 08:01 (nine years ago) link
http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/14-170/The-Dead-Rider-TPB
Surprised to see this. This series started ages ago and it was called Dead Lander but there was something else called that, so the name had to be changed. There might have even been a third name that was advertised. After all these years the series is finished in book form. Anyway, Kevin Ferrara is very talented. He's done a lot of the best work for the Creepy revival.
Alsohttp://www.darkhorse.com/Books/25-034/Creepy-Presents-Alex-Toth-HC
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 23:25 (nine years ago) link
That Toth volume looks a bargain at $20.
I was looking at that recent Howard Nostrand horror comics hardcover the other day, and thinking that was a bit of a bargain too, until I saw how lousy some of the repro was. Shame.
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link
tons of the transformers issues, pay what u want:https://www.humblebundle.com/books
― Mordy, Thursday, 5 March 2015 00:50 (nine years ago) link
Getting back to Shigeru Mizuki, did anyone read the Kitaro compilation? I might have passed on that and Cat Eyed Boy because I thought Oninbo was the weakest of the Hideshi Hino horror series. They all look quite similar.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 6 March 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link
http://www.paulgravett.com/articles/article/sothebys_comics_art_auctionproduced almost 4 million euro in saleshttp://www.paulgravett.com/articles2/article_images/TintinStatueSOthebys.jpg^sold for 261k Euros!http://www.paulgravett.com/articles2/article_images/TezukaSothebys.jpg^24k euro!http://www.paulgravett.com/articles2/article_images/StevensSothebys.jpg^60k euro!
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 02:35 (nine years ago) link
ah well, just go to the link.
I haven't read this new Howard the Duck, but I did just snort at this new tagline"Trapped in a world he's grown accustomed to"
― mh, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 14:03 (nine years ago) link
https://storify.com/debaoki/do-you-have-to-be-japanese-to-make-manga
A series of Twitter posts. It starts off about one webcomic then gets more interesting, with anecdotes about general perceptions of comics from different places, styles, cultures.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link
lol fucking tumblrettes
― Mordy, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link
in less psychotic news: Archie Is Doing A Digital Collection Of Stories About Wrestling
Woo!
― Mordy, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
Hats off to Vic Fluro for bringing Nextwave into 616 continuity.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link
everyone in 616 pretends the events didn't happen.... but they did
― mh, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link
you're gonna have to clarify that for me! how did that happen?but it's a weird time for Marvel. I just found about that X-Men '92 series that puts that animated series into the Secret Wars multiverse. sadly it seems to be written by an asshole who has quickly apologized for years of online abuse
― Nhex, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
that's an interesting story
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
Monica Rambeau has been in Mighty Avengers for a while as Spectrum, behaving like a fairly new character and drawn in a Greg Land style. She turns up in Secret Avengers this week and creates a very bright flash while talking about the Beyond Corporation and after she steps out of the light that stops you from seeing her... She looks like she's drawn by Stuart Immonen and is wearing her Nextwave uniform again. Plus she uses the skull asterisks from The Captain's name.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
heh nice
― Nhex, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
hah! She did mumble something in a previous Mighty Avengers issue about having done all this shit in the midwest no one seems to remember
― mh, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link
did this get conversation on a different board?https://storify.com/debaoki/do-you-have-to-be-japanese-to-make-manga
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 March 2015 03:27 (nine years ago) link
I can't even begin to understand what's happening
Kind of glad I just try to read The Walking Dead and some crime comics and shit, the DC Convergence event and THE END OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE and trying to parse what's happening over 50 different titles would drive me insane.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 19 March 2015 03:40 (nine years ago) link
what's happening with the Marvel Secret Wars event*
that stuff about chris sims harrassing valerie d'orazio is really disappointing. i've been reading and enjoying his comics blogging for years and i was intrigued by his x-men project. i had no idea he was such a fucking asshole :(
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 19 March 2015 10:49 (nine years ago) link
weird that a grown man known for his astonishing breadth of knowledge about comic books and children's television is an inept creep when dealing with women
― adam, Thursday, 19 March 2015 11:32 (nine years ago) link
true, but i never got that impression from the stuff of his i've read - he works for comics alliance which is pretty good at supporting diversity in comics afaik - which makes it all the more shitty.
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 19 March 2015 11:37 (nine years ago) link
he can be a reasonably engaging writer for sure. still one time i saw a picture of him wearing a my little pony tshirt and it was like, oh ok just because this guy is more coherent than most of his peers doesn't mean he's not a creep.
― adam, Thursday, 19 March 2015 11:55 (nine years ago) link
He's also guested a few times on Rachel and Miles, and they're hella progressive, thoughtful, don't seem like they'd hold much truck with misogynist bullying. I have no doubt that Rachel has weighed in on this, but I haven't had the time to check her twitter or blog.
― a cocoanut rink (how's life), Thursday, 19 March 2015 12:32 (nine years ago) link
http://postcardsfromspace.tumblr.com/post/113923434118/do-you-have-any-advice-thought-on-processing-the
― a cocoanut rink (how's life), Thursday, 19 March 2015 12:42 (nine years ago) link
did this get conversation on a different board?https://storify.com/debaoki/do-you-have-to-be-japanese-to-make-manga― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 March 2015 03:27
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 March 2015 03:27
Don't know.
Quite funny but also terrifying, that guy who says he could get 20 years jail in Indonesia for what he draws.
I don't think the negative reactions to a lot of typical modern angular Japanese style stuff are totally unreasonable, any more than people not liking the Pixar or 90s superhero style. I don't think it's a good thing that mainstream Japanese styles tend to be treated so separately. I remember being told by art teachers to broaden my horizons for art and it hurt at the time but it's what a good teacher should do. It should be a cause for concern when a student places themselves firmly in a narrow, already established style with all the solutions ready for them; some kids will grow out of it by themselves but some will need more encouragement.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 19 March 2015 12:54 (nine years ago) link
sims has posted a piece on comicsalliance: http://comicsalliance.com/ask-chris-being-part-of-the-problem/
about as mature and reasoned a self-examination as you could hope for, i guess, but that's not going to cure valerie d'orazio's ptsd.
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 19 March 2015 13:41 (nine years ago) link
jesus, that backlash in what forks posted is ridiculous. american tumblr youth screaming at fellow americans for doing anime/manga wrong because they aren't japanese seems very tumblr, though
― mh, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:12 (nine years ago) link
"I have PTSD—post-traumatic stress disorder. I have specifically been diagnosed with it because of cyberbullying that I experienced between 2007-2010."
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Mordy, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:21 (nine years ago) link
care to elaborate on that?
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Mordy, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link
okay, then i guess i'll continue to assume that you're consciously choosing to disbelieve a woman's claims that bullying led to mental health problems
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:34 (nine years ago) link
i think mordy believes her, his stance is more tough shit/deal with it
at least that's how i read those runes
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:35 (nine years ago) link
i guess we'll never know
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:35 (nine years ago) link
imo there are definitely shitty parts of the web that are worth avoiding, especially if they're places where you've been repeatedly harassed, but when it comes down to it you can't really be a successful person in the comics world without any sort of engagement in the news/forum/social network realm. and if those areas are full of harassment, it hinders your professional career.
there's a bunch of macho shit-talk that is completely unnecessary and some forums and websites should probably be shunned, but if some asshole writer is specifically calling you out, repeatedly, for no reason other than the fact you're a woman and a convenient target, it's bullshit.
the shrugging-off of her concerns might be intended to read like "well, if it bothers you when these communities are shitty, don't engage in them!" but the real message is "if if bothers you, I guess comics aren't for you!"
― mh, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:48 (nine years ago) link
otm
― Nhex, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:50 (nine years ago) link
yup, otm. it's the shrugging-off of those concerns that creates the environment where bullshit like gamergate can fester
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link
I'm even willing to believe Chris Sims and other bullheaded people can change, and even internalize what they're saying in public to the point where apologies are legitimate and directed and phrased in a way that doesn't seem creepy!
The other side of this is the festering rot in these communities that will see any apology as kowtowing to perceived hostile forces. You have to ignore those people, because they're never going to be placated as they will never get that their investment in a fucked-up status quo is hindering not just their community, but their own development. I didn't get into mainstream comics in the early 90s (oh god) because they were a gross shithole with bad sexist imagery, I got into them because they seemed cool and exciting when I was a kid.
If comics and the corresponding community had more diverse, interesting characters (which there were, I ended up buying as much independent stuff and things like the Vertigo line when I could) available it wouldn't have turned me off of comics, it would have helped me be a more well-rounded person.
― mh, Thursday, 19 March 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link
not belittling anyone's concerns or problems but
when it comes down to it you can't really be a successful person in the comics world without any sort of engagement in the news/forum/social network realm.
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 March 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link
are there any writers/artists with no web presence who also don't do conventions?
― mh, Thursday, 19 March 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link