I don't know what you're looking for, forks. All of those people seem to reply to questions, occasionally send an @ message to their peers, and opine as many Twitter users do. I'd say that's public engagement.
― mh, Thursday, 19 March 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link
Don't worry about it, it's not very important to me to puzzle out. There are more paths than one, obviously.
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 March 2015 23:45 (nine years ago) link
RAG: not sure what the solution would be, though. Only direct buy books from indie presses? Shunt business to the remaining B&M retailers carrying comics? I always saw the figure collecting as something the very most hardcore fans were into - hence stores full of figurines that never or rarely sell...
― Nhex, Friday, 20 March 2015 00:14 (nine years ago) link
I don't expect any clear or easy solutions but I think these things need to be discussed more. It's interesting that the comic stores I know all gave up on videos several years ago. Obviously there are other places to get them but I liked it when there was a wall of animation, horror films, science fiction tv shows and other cult stuff. I've always wondered how well the prose book section does in Forbidden Planet, and all those Doctor Who audio discs. When I started going to comic shops in the late 90s, model kits were quite popular, I think in general that stuff was more interesting than the standard statues you get today. I do actually like toys and statues a lot when there is lots of craft and imagination in there, and doesn't look like it was created purely for the sake of more product.
If there was a God of comics he would cry.http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=FU3082http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/watchmen-kubricks-bearbricks-mez-itz.php http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=DC19725#.VQt4c9BFAv4
That Watchmen bear is worth several hundred!
For a good decade I used to buy Previews, but the last eight times I bought it I kept promising myself never to buy it again because it's filled with stuff like that. It made me furious. When I saw that a Star Trek Pizza cutter was a top seller and some perfectly good comics are cancelled due to low orders... there are no words. This is really fucked up. Diamond stopped distributing so many worthy comics in favour of more collectables.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 20 March 2015 01:50 (nine years ago) link
http://images.tcj.com/2015/03/Cartoonist_Threadmill-650x858.jpghttp://www.tcj.com/tcj-roundtable-discussion-applied-cartooning/
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 March 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link
The latest issue of Red Hood has a whole new take on sideboob; Koriand'r's sister ACTUALLY HAS A BOOB ON HER SIDE.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/16704813030_3d4e8e7629.jpg
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Sunday, 22 March 2015 11:16 (nine years ago) link
totalrecallthreeboobedhooker.jpg
― bizarro gazzara, Sunday, 22 March 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
Still doing that Scribd subscription thing for another month. Browsing their selection is nearly impossible on iPad, but I ended up reading most of the Judge Dredd stuff recently published by IDW. Between that and the recent Valiant catalog, I think it's a reasonable deal.
― mh, Monday, 23 March 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link
"Will probably tackle Technopriests next."
I really enjoyed that comic. The artwork is so good through the whole book in both quality and style. It's pretty much a science fiction Dickens novel. Amazing stuff.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 03:41 (nine years ago) link
ODY-C gives me a headache
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
really enjoying the twists COWL is taking though
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link
I got Ditko Archives 5 today. It is a bit annoying paying so much for a hardcover of mostly hackwork I've already seen but his inking was still so nice at that time. All his Dr Haunt drawings are great. I hope the next volume has better stuff. I wonder if they're going to bother with the Gorgo and Konga stuff that Yoe already covered, I hope not. The Stanton pages in the introduction help. Surprised to see Blake Bell giving a big thanks to Jesus Christ above everyone else in the acknowledgments, I don't remember that in any of his other books. Not a fan of the 3, 4, 5 covers in this series, don't know why some of the alternative publishers love that modern designy crap that shows off the dotty color of old comics. Why do this when you could choose so many well composed images from the contents?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 26 March 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link
I noticed that the new Jojo book seems to be selling really well. That's nice.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 26 March 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link
It's on my list for my next splurge. (Ditko Archives, that is.)
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Thursday, 26 March 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link
well this made my day
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBHB7PSW8AAylZN.jpg
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 March 2015 14:32 (nine years ago) link
If they make the sane choice to leave out the Gorgo/Konga stuff from Ditko Archives, then volume 6 should cover 58-62. A bigger period because all the Marvel and Captain Atom stuff isn't an option. It would be awesome if they got to the late 60s Charlton ghost stuff because I've always thought that was some of his best work.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 27 March 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link
Been flipping through the Newsboy Legion collection. Hard to imagine there's ever been a more working class superhero comic. Quite strange that Joe Simon says in the intro that when he was a kid he thought being a newsboy would be glamorous (apparently lots of kids thought that). I love that one of the characters is called Big Words. Some of the drawings of the kids are so weird. They even throw bricks when they're fighting. It's not surprising this and Boy Commandos never got a second volume. It must seem incredibly uncool for a lot of DC fans, next to the really cartoony Dick Sprang Batman stuff.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 28 March 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
on the artists who look like their own drawings tip: Gil Kane http://cdn.popcons.com/journals/jatinder_Ghataora/74/UKCAC_GilKane.jpg
― like working at a jewelry store and not knowing about bracelets (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 29 March 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
That Newsboy Legion sounds right up my alley.
― like working at a jewelry store and not knowing about bracelets (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 29 March 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I have no idea how much more they had to reprint of that and Boy Commandos. I thought maybe DC would consider the Kirby backlog important enough to reprint regardless of sales. Unlike the other Kirby Omnibus volumes, it looks like they used scans of old comics, perhaps Joe Simon had a say in this, I dunno. There's a Newsboy Legion story where Scrapper accidentally becomes a popular surrealist artist but art dealing criminals take all the money he makes.
Looking through the Fantagraphics Ingels collection Sucker Bait and I realised they haven't reprinted any covers, I hope that comes later. Don't know if any of the other Fantagraphics EC collections did covers. I read a little about their plans before but there's still a lot I don't know. Does anyone know if they're saving the early and lesser known EC comics for later reprints? Or even Picto-Fiction era stuff? I assume the New Direction era will be a priority for some artists. Will there be a collection for guys who did a lot less like Joe Kubert?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 29 March 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
do i have any hope of grasping Multiversity without first getting neck deep in years of DC mythology
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
no, just buy the Quitely issue if you've read Watchmen a dozen times
― oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 05:38 (nine years ago) link
Junji Ito's Gyo is coming out in omnibus this week. It was only two volumes but nice to see it out again. Fragments Of Horror shall follow soon. I hope they reissue the Tomie and Museum Of Horror stuff. Praying for more to follow.
If you haven't read Gyo or Uzimaki before, get them now. It's rare for me to be able to say I love comics without any significant reservations but it's true for these cases.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
Every issue of Multiversity takes place in a parallel DC universe we haven't seen before. It's occasionally dense (as is Morrison's wont) and you may get more out of it if you have some familiarity with DC mythology but it isn't a prerequisite by any means. I think he's gotten really good at that balancing act of writing mainstream comics that reward old-school fans but can be read by any newcomer who's willing to put in some effort.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link
Hitler on the toilet, how can you resist
― mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 16:24 (nine years ago) link
like i picked up Ultra Comics because it said "#1" and "Multiversity" on it thinking "oh here's an on-ramp," not realizing i guess that they're *all* "#1"s? and i ~got~ it but also sensed i was missing most of what made it worthwhile for everyone peeing their pants about it.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
each one is kind of a riff on a comic style
― mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link
I still haven't read Ultra Comics but one of the underlying threads of the preceding (and ostensibly standalone) issues is a haunted comic book called Ultra Comics that keeps turning up and wreaking havoc in all of these disparate alternate universes. So, yeah, the impact is probably diluted somewhat without the build-up. But you unwittingly read a haunted comic book that's probably going to wind up destroying our world as a result of your having read it, so that's something.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link
one of the underlying threads of the preceding (and ostensibly standalone) issues is a haunted comic book called Ultra Comics that keeps turning up and wreaking havoc in all of these disparate alternate universes
yeah that's definitely a thing that is apparent in ultra comics
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link
I think Old Lunch's point is that in all the other Multiversity #1s it's referred to explicitly, so actually having it in your hand makes it a cursed object that you know you're handling - so in effect reading it means you're responsible for all the previous #1s happening.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
damn it, hoos
― mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
what made it worthwhile for everyone peeing their pants about it.
who's peeing their pants about it, apart from long-term Morristans* going "uh this wasn't worth the wait and is finally Morrison-by-numbers and really in so many ways a direct retread of FC"
*eg Uzumeri, Jog, the Mindless, Singer
― oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link
I think Old Lunch's point is that in all the other Multiversity #1s it's referred to explicitly, so actually having it in your hand makes it a cursed object that you know you're handling - so in effect reading it means you're responsible for all the previous #1s happening.― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, March 31, 2015 8:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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i follow! i'm just saying morrison makes this like the opposite of a secret
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 02:08 (nine years ago) link
that's how Morrison works, he lets you know in issue #1 that the apocalypse is coming, and you can evaluate the plot
― mh, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 02:37 (nine years ago) link
Friend convinced me to start reading Preacher - halfway through the first collection and I'm pretty much done between the sheriff's kid with the 'arseface,' the sheriff 'fucking himself,'and the start of the next story where a criminal has his jaw blown off in pretty much the same image as everyone else who's gotten shot.Does it get better or is Garth Ennis just that awful 24/7?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
at the time it was kinda innovative; don't really have a lot of excuses why i own it now
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
h8 that shit
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link
and all the 'gonzo' tough guy culture-jamming scripters that tumbled along in its wake
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link
otm, the worst is people who think they understand why something problematic is entertaining and then make their own work which is just 100% problematic and not at all entertaining
― mh, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
If you've just started reading Preacher or are considering doing so at some point in the future, the first question to ask yourseff is: Am I between the ages of 14 and 22? If the answer is no, please feel free to not read Preacher and know that you really aren't missing anything.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
yeah i read preacher thinking "i wish i'd found this when i was 15"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
Feel like the world need a reverse-recommendations engine - oh, you thought Preacher was awful and Transmetropolitan was cheesy and dumb? You should also avoid <x>.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
I thought Transmetropolitan was pretty ok when I was in college. But the series was '97-'02 and I was in college '99-'03 so it worked out perfectly.
― mh, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link
I was not 15 when I was in college, but really, I kind of was.
― mh, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link
If my personal experience is anything to go by, I would guess that it was probably a mid-to-late '90s rite of passage to initially buy and enjoy titles such as Preacher and Transmetropolitan and Strangers In Paradise until you slowly came to realize that they were embarassing garbage aimed at an audience you no longer belonged to.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
tbh I think 1/3 of Sandman falls into that
― mh, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link
Read less Preacher, read more Shade the Changing Man.
― like working at a jewelry store and not knowing about bracelets (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 2 April 2015 04:38 (nine years ago) link
otm
― mh, Thursday, 2 April 2015 13:42 (nine years ago) link
The impediment being, though, that DC ran out of steam less than halfway through collecting Shade in trades (as has been their super-fun tendency with most of the classic Vertigo series). Thankfully, the entirety of Preacher will be available in perpetuity.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 April 2015 14:51 (nine years ago) link
I think I'm missing a little bit of Shade at the end, but I got a near-complete run off ebay years ago
― mh, Thursday, 2 April 2015 15:10 (nine years ago) link