The ILC Favourite Characters Of All Time

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I rather liked when the Marvel Zombies ate him - after having had the Silver Surfer as a starter.

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

That was the very picture I was going to use before I found a more Kirbyish one, Joe!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I've been meaning to have it made into a t-shirt since I first saw it.

chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

7. Enid Coleslaw (Ghost World)

(190 points)

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Hopey for a new generation! Though I have no idea who the one for now is.

Sometimes the most obvious choice is also the best one. Ghost World is Dan Clowes' finest achievement not because there was a movie based (ever so slightly) on it, but because it's a work of remarkable sympathy and insight about two girls preparing to enter the world of adulthood, one of whom succeeds and one of whom stalls. Clowes' beautifully elliptical storytelling style, which focuses on one moment of epiphany after another, is well suited for the story of Enid and Becky, who thrive on the weird discoveries they make in random places – until that pleasure evaporates along with their friendship. It's Enid who captures our imagination more, though, perhaps because her fate remains uncertain at the story's end. (Justyn)

Enid is one of the smartest, sharpest characters in comics - the graphic novel is at once a celebration of that and a fairly pitiless look at the traps smartness and sharpness can drag you into. (Tom)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 6 November 2006 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

PS is that your real email address, Mark Co?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 6 November 2006 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

For the benefit of the three people who haven't already seen this factoid, which blew my mind when I realized it like five years late: "Enid Coleslaw" = anagram of "Daniel Clowes."

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Enid from Ghost World.

Haha, no way.

-- Jordan (jordan...), October 26th, 2006.

pwned by Tuomas :(

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 6 November 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

(mind blown)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 6 November 2006 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

On the other hand Enid is the perfect Daniel Clowes character, since she works as a critique of hipsterism and intellectual elitism, but on the other hand, unlike most Clowes characters, she refuses to be a mere vehicle and becomes sympathetic despite herself.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 6 November 2006 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

How many hands are you working with, Tuomas?!?

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 6 November 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link

haha i have this ghost world tijuana bible (athens ga ladies and gentlemen) i'm tempted to scan.

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 6 November 2006 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link

hopey is not smart!

mark s (mark s), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link

please do blount

pinkmoose (jacklove), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

> ghost world tijuana bible

Haha! I'd love to see this.

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link

SECONDED.

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

DO IT!!!! Please!

veronica moser (veronica moser), Monday, 6 November 2006 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

andrew f - yes that is my real email

Mark Co (Markco), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 03:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I had to holler out the car window on the way to a Halloween party this year to compliment this girl on the sidewalk dressed as Ms. Coleslaw on her awesome choice of costume. However we were driving kind of fast so I'm sure "HEY ENID, BITCHIN' COSTUME" probably just sounded like some drunk asshole in a car yelling cuss words at strangers. In typical lame ass fashion, when asked I explained to my friend who was driving that it was "from a comic book" instead of "Thora Birch in Ghost World" and she said "Was that bitch supposed to be Punk Batgirl or something and if so why would she think that was a good costume." This is my story.

Adrienne Begley (sparklecock), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 04:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Also yes pls post ghost world tijuana bible.

Adrienne Begley (sparklecock), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 04:27 (eighteen years ago) link

if i can find it i will - i can guarantee you folx right now it ain't living up to yr anticipation, plus i think it was alot of injokes can't remember. i WISH i still had the blankets tijuana bible cuz it was hilarious and SOOOOOOOOOOOO WRONG (incest among other things).

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 04:35 (eighteen years ago) link

all x TJ B's now and forever EIGHTHED

finest achievement

#22!

occasional coleslaw (kit brash), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Of course, there's also Sarah Oleksyk's "Stained Blankets," of which the first two pages can be seen at http://velvetgrindstone.blogspot.com/2006/07/tear-for-kramers.html , along with her "Jeffrey Brown by Jeffrey Brown"...

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

wasn't there a blankets parody in an angry youth comix also?

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

OMFG "jeffrey brown by jeffrey brown" - TOTALLY FWDING THAT TO MANY PPL TODAY.

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Sarah's a freakin' genius. I also highly recommend her 3-minute animation "Le Lapin Jaloux," http://velvetgrindstone.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-uploaded-my-short-animation-le-lapin.html .

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

This is not how I imagined the Enid Coleslaw discussion would go.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

It's AWESOMELY FANTASTIC!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw JB give a very unprepared talk in Toronto but he seemed quite likable. He talked about Wolverine most of the time. That comic is very spot on though.

Also omg expressive rabbit

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link

JB by JB = megaclassic

Adrienne Begley (sparklecock), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link

5-tie. Lucy Van Pelt (Peanuts)

(192 points)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a6/Lucyvanpelt.jpg/250px-Lucyvanpelt.jpg

Lucy was the most terrifying character in the history
of comics - proud, sadistic, utterly self-centered and
hateful. The most famous running gag in Peanuts
involved her lying to Charlie Brown about an act of
pointless treachery and then offering a hypocritical
excuse for it; in an early episode Linus is seen
crying after Lucy tells him she wishes he'd never been
born. "Beneath the surface there's something tender,"
Schulz once said of her. "But maybe if you scratched
deeper you'd find she's even worse than she seems."
(Justyn Dillingham)

Best Moment: Pulling the football; away just as Charlie Brown was about to kick it. (David Simpson)

And a worst character vote from Huk ("What a bitch.")!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Good grief, Huk!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link

So... Who we have left are Batman, Calvin, Captain Haddock, Buddy Bradley, and...? Wolverine? Popeye? I have little idea who the fifth one might be.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Lord Fanny wouldn't have made it this far, though William Gull might still have a small chance.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

It'll be interestin to compare this one to greatest comics poll. Are there any great comics without great characters, or vice versa?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Longshot Comics by Shane Simmons
"Here" by Richard McGuire

occasional mongrel (kit brash), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

"A Glass Of Water" by Morrison & McKean - great comic, the character herself isn't remarkable

occasional mongrel (kit brash), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link

MLC for #1!

Harthill Services (Neil Willett), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

martin luther cing?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link

damn i'd forgotten how many of these i commented on.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 9 November 2006 07:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Jimmy Corrigan - the landscape strips/novel is a great comic, but the character is a nonentity (as opposed to the portrait comics, where he's a FANTASTIC character!)

occasional mongrel (kit brash), Thursday, 9 November 2006 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link

If there has to be something Ware, I'm crossing my fingers for Big Tex or the astronaut (Spaceman Sam maybe?). Their equally pathetic, brutal-punchline vignettes always seemed to have a little more bite and be a lot more memorable than any of Jimmy Corrigan's bathetic and dull excursions into anomie...

It's basically the Countdown to Calvin now as far as I'm concerned.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 10 November 2006 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link

blount do you have the tintin tiajuana bible from 2001!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and what (ooo), Saturday, 11 November 2006 04:16 (eighteen years ago) link

If you mean "Tintin in Thailand" I have it and am happy to share it. pdf format, just say the word.

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 11 November 2006 05:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd like to see that!

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 11 November 2006 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Tintin in thailand!

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4VUCZ3TK

it's not copyrighted material, so I don't think I'm violating any ilx rules by posting this link.

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 11 November 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

0 kb?

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 11 November 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

what? damnit lemme see...

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 11 November 2006 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V70PFHGE

I think this should actually do it.

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 11 November 2006 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link

My sister = Lucy, ergo the hate.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Sunday, 12 November 2006 00:32 (seventeen years ago) link

As a time filler while I try to sober up the blurb for the next character, here's Aldo's one for Cerebus, retrieved from the lair of the Dark God Cruiathe (Tom's inbox).

NOTE: contains spoiler if you gave up on Cerebus at a sane point.

--

To list exactly why I love Cerebus so much, or believe he's the greatest character ever created in comics, would dominate proceedings so I'll try and keep it short.

Cerebus is all of us. Well, not exactly. Cerebus is all the bits we don't like or don't/can't acknowledge about ourselves and we hate. He's every bit of petty jealousy. Every ounce of manipulation. Our lack of backbone. Our drinking. Our intolerance. Our stupidity. Self aggrandisement. Wanking. Insanity.

As Tom said during the nominations phase, "I'm not voting for Cerbeus because he's a cockfarmer." And that's exactly right. He's boorish, arrogant and frequently entirely wrong-headed. He decides he wants a woman in his life and gets her by painstakingly destroying her husband. When things go wrong, it's never his fault. People can exploit him, but he just leaves.

His finest moment? Easy. At the end of 'Form & Void', having been plagued for some time with an urge to visit his parents but held up with ridiculous behaviour from Jaka. When they get to Sand Hills Creek nobody will speak to him. Cerebus realises they have died.

He is inconsolable. He tears his hair out, rubs mud in his face and, seeing Jaka, vents his frustration with the prophesied words "Go on. Beat it. Scram." She leaves, and he is alone in grief.

He is us, and we are him.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 11:14 (seventeen years ago) link


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