oops I tried to post this in this thread but posted it in another less-popular L&R thread by mistake but
looks like the first Library collection of the New Stories (aka Vol. 3) books is coming in January 2018
http://www.fantagraphics.com/angelsmagpies/
― he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 4 August 2017 00:43 (six years ago) link
Huh -- I didn't know they were still doing those mega-collections.
Meanwhile, there is still Jaime "New Stories" stuff that hasn't been collected, yes? The "Black Widow" storyline about Tonta and her extended family(?)
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 4 August 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link
...Maybe they will collect the above-referenced material together with the current "return to Hoppers" storyline (which, somewhat awkwardly, straddles Vol. 3 & 4).
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 4 August 2017 05:02 (six years ago) link
haven't Jaime collections straddled different series regularly since Locas In Love?
― Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Friday, 4 August 2017 06:20 (six years ago) link
Locas in Love collects the "Penny Century" series -- but in terms of "L&R" itself, there are four "volumes," and Vols. 1 and 2 both ended cleanly (active storylines terminated when the series ended). When New Stories (Vol. 3) ended, Jaime was in the middle of a storyline, which picks up in Vol. 4. Just kind of odd it worked out that way, NBD.
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 4 August 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link
(In other words, it's not a collection straddling two volumes or series that I find awkward, but rather the arbitrary end of Vol. 3 and shift to a new format, mid-story.)
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 4 August 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link
(It also bugs me a little b/c I don't want to buy individual issues of the new volume, just wait for the collections -- but it seems more uncertain these days how long the wait will be.)
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 4 August 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link
I've given up on L+R and have been burned too many times. I will wait until they both retire and I'm retired and I will buy whatever the latest collection fanatagraphics is hawking at that point.
― dan selzer, Friday, 4 August 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link
I used to go back and read all the Vol. 1 collections, from the beginning, once a year or so... but no time for that in this stage of my life! (I too will be happily lounging in the retirement village with my stack of books and Ape Sex t-shirt.)
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 4 August 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link
Locas in Love collects the "Penny Century" series
pretty sure it collects like three issues of Penny Century and one story from another issue and most of the Maggie & Hopey Summer Fun Special, but I lent mine to someone two years ago and can't check
I've given up on L+R and have been burned too many times.
if you just buy the "tall" Jaime collections you never get burned! IIRC they still continue the original numbering in the indicia
― Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Friday, 4 August 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
This looks pretty sweet for fetishizers of artwork/process with $$ to spare: http://www.fantagraphics.com/fantastudiojaimehernandez/
(I'd like to at least read the "new interview with Hernandez, conducted by Fantagraphics publisher Gary Groth, that explores the artist’s inspiration and the formal elements of his craft.")
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
in recent years I've come to the conclusion that Jaime is one of the greatest comics artists ever, and Gilbert I just don't give a shit about
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link
xp
Ugh, I want this, but it may just be too much.
― Moodles, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
same. in my 20s it was the opposite.
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Friday, 3 November 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link
I can get with that if you're talking draftsmanship, but there's way too much fantastic Beto stuff for that to make any sense on like a holistic level.
― Vas the deferens? (Old Lunch), Friday, 3 November 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link
I will say that I am totally burned out on the Fritz storyline, too many characters that I can't be bothered to figure out.
I started skipping through those parts once I got to New Stories #6 or so.
― sleeve, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
Yeah, his work has become real scattershot over the last 10 years. It's frustrating because he cranks out way more material than Jaime, but a lot of it is fairly incoherent.
― Moodles, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
TBF, I don't even bother to try keeping up with Beto's extra-L&R work these days. Except Blubber which was...um, really something. A cry for help, perhaps?
― Vas the deferens? (Old Lunch), Friday, 3 November 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link
I bailed on Beto after Vol. 1 (when I began buying the Jaime-only books for Vol. 2). He's just not for me. I read one or two of Gilbert's stories in "New Stories"; one of them really disturbed me, in an "I wish I could un-read that" kind of way. (I think it turned out to be "just a movie" at the end, but that didn't save it.)
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 3 November 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
xxp yep... gilbert is my favorite but a lot of his stuff over the last decade is sub-par. there was an interview a couple of years ago where he said he had been doing so much because he needed the money.
― new noise, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
jesus get the guy a patreon account or something. So fucking depressing when artists that brilliant are raking in the money and living like the kings they deserve to be.
― dan selzer, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link
excuse me, AREN'T
FYI, Fanta having a Cyber Monday sale -- 30% off "just about everything". (Wanna cyber?)
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 27 November 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link
Goddammit, Fantagraphics.
― Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Monday, 27 November 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
haha my thoughts exactly
― sleeve, Monday, 27 November 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
Well, I'm against anything that might give Johnny Ryan a wider audience
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 27 November 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
I'm hate-watching "High Fidelity" (2000); one of the record store clerks (the guy who's not Jack Black) is wearing a hella cool L&R t-shirt beneath an unbuttoned flannel.
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Saturday, 9 December 2017 07:19 (six years ago) link
New book with a Jaime cover: https://i.harperapps.com/covers/9780062476807/y648.jpg
Looks like he took a quick stab at replicating "Death of Speedy"-era Locas, but without much attention to detail (Izzy's legs just look weird).
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link
I went to college with Hillary Chute. FYI
― dan selzer, Thursday, 21 December 2017 00:10 (six years ago) link
Just checked out her CV – pretty distinguished.
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 21 December 2017 04:48 (six years ago) link
Looks like you guys were in college the exact same years I was... I always like seeing people my age doing interesting stuff. Sometimes I feel like most folks you "hear about" are at least 10 years older or younger.
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 21 December 2017 05:13 (six years ago) link
Goddammit, Fantagraphics
half price sale on gift vouchers this week
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 08:26 (six years ago) link
Been working my way through the Golden Age of Batman stories, and it's becoming evident how much of an influence Dick Sprang's style was on Gilbert.
This is from Detective #93, published in 1944. Just look at these panels, the way the characters are positioned in the foreground is so Beto.
https://i.imgur.com/svwUBaP.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/82x9s29.png
― Pheeel, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link
I just read a 1985 issue of Legion of Super-Heroes that Joe Orlando pencilled, and it’s striking how much his art (while not very polished) reminds me of Jaime’s... particularly Jaime’s sci-fi/superhero stories. Is it possible Orlando was an influence? Going by his Wikipedia page, it doesn’t look like Orlando did a ton of superhero work (and a lot of what he worked on in that vein seems to have been in the mid-’80s, well after L&R debuted).
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Sunday, 18 March 2018 05:34 (six years ago) link
It's possible. Orlando drew a bunch of sci fi in his EC days and did some superhero work for DC & Marvel in the 60s.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 18 March 2018 16:53 (six years ago) link
Picked up most recent 3 issues and jfc Beto’s output has really declined - shaky linework, incoherent plots and dialogue ugh. A bummer. Jaime otoh just gets better and better. Love the return of silly sf material.
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 4 August 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link
I stopped buying Beto collections in volume 3, but I've given up on the series altogether in v4 and am back to waiting for Xaime's collection.
― 16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link
I haven't read any Jaime since Love Bunglers! I probably should
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 5 August 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link
Love Bunglers is what prompted me to get the latest issues tbh, it was so good
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 5 August 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link
I finally started the New Stories. The hour glass figure of Beto's Sad Girl\Killer is disturbing to look at. Jaime's hardly shy with the exaggerated curvy figures either but I don't picture Vivian breaking in half at the waist.
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:22 (five years ago) link
I never read more than a few pages of Beto's stuff prior to finishing all 8 New Stories just now but I couldn't get into any of it. Meanwhile, Jaime was absolutely killing it. His panels are all like perfectly balanced mini-paintings. He captures a lot of fluid body language. People aren't cut-n-paste statues. Jaime's story-telling remains strong as ever. His mini sci-fi "Princess Animus" is pretty damn cool.
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 9 August 2018 02:10 (five years ago) link
Looks like a collection of Jaime’s current “reunion” storyline is coming in March: https://www.amazon.com/This-How-You-See-Countryman/dp/168396182XMeanwhile — I wasn’t aware that these “Complete Love & Rockets” volumes were still being published; this one seems to collect “Ti-Girls” and “Love Bunglers”: https://www.amazon.com/Angels-Magpies-Love-Rockets-Library/dp/1683960904(I’m still not clear if the stories about Tonta’s family from “New Stories” have ever been collected; but guess it doesn’t matter, for my purposes...)
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 03:56 (five years ago) link
Fantagraphics’ mobile website is unusable
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 04:02 (five years ago) link
Site crashed while trying to calculate the infinite permutations of ways to read the L&R saga.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 04:11 (five years ago) link
tbh two days ago a Fanta employee texted me that someone phoned the office wanting to buy "all of Love & Rockets" and I put together an email explaining the closest-to-possible best-format in-print way of doing so
― ▫◌▫ (sic), Friday, 31 August 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link
What about the page count of Los BrosHow did it get so high?I wonder if an ILXor knows how many books to buy
― Just eat a hamburger, it'll hit the spot. (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 August 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link
wrong ilxor
― ▫◌▫ (sic), Friday, 31 August 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link
You lay claim to the occupation if not the designation itself.
― Just eat a hamburger, it'll hit the spot. (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 August 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link
I'd like to see what you told them, sic (unless you already did upthread and I missed it)
― Dan I., Sunday, 2 September 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link
At this point, the digests (the Love and Rockets Library, I guess they're called) are pretty much definitive. They're a few years behind at this point but I'm pretty sure they collect everything. Vol. 13 (Angels and Magpies) is the most recent one I own, maybe the last one they put out (nb, I haven't bought them all because I have the entire original set of vol. 1 collections plus the Luba hardcover and a ton of original issues, can only justify so many double- and triple-dips before it just gets ridiculous).
― Digital Squirts (Old Lunch), Sunday, 2 September 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link