I thought that happened during the "Five Years Later" storyline, which is no longer canon in the "retroboot" version of the team (or something).
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 05:03 (six years ago) link
Legion's history has never made any sense
― Nhex, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 07:44 (six years ago) link
when they're doing it right, yes
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 13:44 (six years ago) link
I personally feel that random individual Legionnaires, off on their own, are of very limited interest... the main appeal of the Legion (for me) is the space-opera scope of the whole team together, in its element.
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 22:38 (six years ago) link
are you suggesting that DC might be making a dumb publishing decision based solely on airing some dormant IP
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link
i'm suggesting a split gilbert hernandez matter eater lad / jaime night girl/phantom book or gtfo
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 28 December 2017 01:45 (six years ago) link
Penny Century >> Laurel Gand
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 28 December 2017 04:04 (six years ago) link
Without wishing to troll, the Legion is dumb dated bullshit and can fuck off
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 28 December 2017 05:04 (six years ago) link
it did!
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 28 December 2017 05:06 (six years ago) link
It has at least 3 times in 20 years, LOL
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 28 December 2017 05:18 (six years ago) link
I am quite enjoying... Doomsday Clock
Weird mix of curiosity about where the story's going, hate read, and actual enjoyment
Forgive me
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link
The first issue had me guiltily intrigued. The second issue was a hot mess and I'm done.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 31 December 2017 04:02 (six years ago) link
Dog carcass in alley this morning, tire tread on burst stomach. Whoops, it’s Krypto... :(
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link
It makes more sense to think of this as the se
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link
I mean,
It makes more sense to think of this as the sequel to Zak Snyder's Watchmen
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link
I see that they mention Tom Strong in that Terrifics solicitation. The Mooresploitation continues apace!
― Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 January 2018 15:11 (six years ago) link
Why doesn't Moore own the ABC stuff again?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 1 January 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link
Looked it up; ABC was an imprint of Wildstorm which got acquired by DC
― Nhex, Monday, 1 January 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link
Not shedding any tears for Snake Man though
― Nhex, Monday, 1 January 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WildStorm#Creator-owned_titles
ABC is listed under Wildstorm's creator owned titles. I know that several of these titles have nothing to do with DC now but where did ABC go wrong?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 1 January 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Best_Comics A little more info here, and on the LOEG page
The short version was that ABC was negotiated with Moore right before Lee sold Wildstorm, and Moore decided to compromise until DC pissed him off with movie business. He wrapped up his contributions and took League elsewhere, while some other series were continued for a while. I have no idea who owns the other characters or how the licensing and ownership stands for the other books
Listing them under Wildstorm is technically true, but only so much as they published the line
― mh, Monday, 1 January 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link
It's just weird that he didn't secure ownership of his characters when many other less experienced Wildstorm creators did.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 1 January 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link
I think he has ownership, but the publishing rights were (and likely still are) held by Wildstorm/DC
― mh, Monday, 1 January 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link
It’d be a very Moore move to not make more material in order to help kill sales of the existing material if it’s DC publishing it
― mh, Monday, 1 January 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link
DC shouldn't be able to incorporate ABC characters if Moore still owns them.
I think the reason he could do more League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen is because they are public domain characters.
Whether it's ownership or publishing rights, it's weird that he didn't get this sorted.
If kids like J Scott Campbell and Joe Madureira can do it then why can't Moore?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 1 January 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link
What characters have they been using?
― mh, Monday, 1 January 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link
never mind, saw the Tom Strong mention
― mh, Monday, 1 January 2018 19:34 (six years ago) link
Here we go:https://www.cbr.com/dc-rights-americas-best-comics-alan-moore/
― mh, Monday, 1 January 2018 19:36 (six years ago) link
Thanks. I'm sure it's all written somewhere but it still leaves the questions of why he didn't do a creator owned deal for all of ABC and why DC is allowed LoEG movie and reprint rights.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 1 January 2018 20:59 (six years ago) link
Because the market was in the dumper and he needed money, afaict
― mh, Monday, 1 January 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link
The short version was that ABC was negotiated with Moore right before Lee sold Wildstorm,
Lee specifically had Moore create an entire line to make the Wildstorm sale more attractive to DC - it was basically ABC and the colouring department that DC bought.
Lee and Dunbier flew to England the morning the sale was announced to mollify Moore in person.
and Moore decided to compromise until DC pissed him off with movie business.
and multiple incidents of censorship. He compromised for one reason only: he'd committed to a year of each title, and it would have been putting about ten artists and Klein out of work.
He wrapped up his contributions
He'd already gone two years beyond his initial plans, because he got so excited about the work once he was deep in it, tbf. (He originally thought that other writers of his stature would want to come in from the #13s.)
and took League elsewhere,
League was an Homage (Wildstorm's creator-owned imprint) book, not created for ABC. Lee muddied the waters by moving it under ABC at DC for bookkeeping purposes: Moore's cheques came from a separate company called Firewall, LLC, not DC/Warner.
while some other series were continued for a while. I have no idea who owns the other characters or how the licensing and ownership stands for the other books
??
― mh, Tuesday, January 2, 2018 5:51 AM (two hours ago)
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, January 2, 2018 6:10 AM (one hour ago)
He made the line WFH in order to get higher page rates for the artists. It's only weird if you ignore his entire publishing career, where he perpetually makes decisions based on the principle that he would prefer to assume he is dealing with honorable people who won't fuck him over, rather than ever pay attention to business matters. "Whatever you think is best, Steve."
― mh, Tuesday, January 2, 2018 6:12 AM (one hour ago)
He has no ownership whatsoever.
I swear I've typed all this out on here every 18 months for the last 13 years.
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 1 January 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link
i was gonna write 'in before sic' but juuuuuuust missed it
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 1 January 2018 21:32 (six years ago) link
It's only weird if you ignore his entire publishing career, where he perpetually makes decisions based on the principle that he would prefer to assume he is dealing with honorable people who won't fuck him over
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 1 January 2018 21:21
Still very strange that he was willing to assume this.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 1 January 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link
not even sure why I postulate or google search instead of calling the sic hotline tbh
― mh, Monday, 1 January 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link
Still very strange that he was willing to assume this.maybe if you finish reading the sentence it will explain it
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 1 January 2018 22:14 (six years ago) link
Still very strange
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 1 January 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link
‘taste’s very strange!’
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 January 2018 23:33 (six years ago) link
you may have noticed that alan moore is strange
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 1 January 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link
Sometimes it's hard to tell if he's being fucked over, or being a spanner, or hoping he'll get screwed so he can say "I told you so" afterwards, or all of the above.
Which is to say, I think it's amazing that he's so uncompromising, but I'm not always sure he's telling the truth, based on my experience with less-talented male blowhards of a similar age.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 1 January 2018 23:59 (six years ago) link
e.g. There's a really long-winded interview here where Moore keeps talking about wanting to be called up and "thanked for the money" by Dave Gibbons, which made me a little leery of him, at least with regards to his personal relationships with artists.
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 00:05 (six years ago) link
Doomsday Clock is bad
― mh, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 00:42 (six years ago) link
It is an indefensible work of terrible art, but I'm enjoying it.
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 01:23 (six years ago) link
i think DC made some good strides in 2017, generally
― Nhex, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 09:31 (six years ago) link
finally firing eddie berganza for example
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 10:53 (six years ago) link
Why comics stunk in the ‘90s, Pt. XXIXXIV: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DrlRzS-8AbI/Wldo-Epfo7I/AAAAAAABUCw/vjjNz4vREM4GFCbmJVJE7csteApw1FIvACLcBGAs/s1600/superboy45-1.jpg
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Sunday, 14 January 2018 03:07 (six years ago) link
because Rebirth hadn't started yet, obv
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Sunday, 14 January 2018 07:08 (six years ago) link
can't believe I'd never heard of Dr Mid-Nite's owl sidekick 'Hooty' before
https://i.imgur.com/a6dKRtF.jpg
― soref, Monday, 15 January 2018 01:17 (six years ago) link
can't get over how much this looks like a pixelated boat cartoon
― soref, Monday, 15 January 2018 01:19 (six years ago) link
I can’t stop thinking of the Sesame Street character Hoots, now
― mh, Monday, 15 January 2018 02:18 (six years ago) link
Where the Blowfish at, amirite?
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 15 January 2018 04:28 (six years ago) link