as though there aren't some other X-plots over the years to draw on
it's interesting (ish!) that the MCU movies rarely seem to draw from specific storylines the way that x-men does and nolanbats did
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 09:01 (four years ago) link
(and that's a good thing, i think?)
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 09:02 (four years ago) link
Several MCU movies have drawn from specific plotlines: Winter Soldier, Civil War, Ragnarök, The Dark World, Age of Ultron, Infinity War / Endgame, Guardians of the Galaxy, Doctor Strange... They're not super faithful adaptations of those storylines, but then again, neither is X-Men: Apocalypse or the The Dark Knight Rises.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 06:41 (four years ago) link
(Age of Ultron obviously is not an adapation of Age of Ultron the comic, rather than the first Ultron story in The Avengers.)
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 06:42 (four years ago) link
Al Williamson was a god. That Blade Runner adaptation is indeed great - and that Steranko cover!!
― Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 07:21 (four years ago) link
Claremont and Sienkiewicz with one-off New Mutants
― Brakhage, Friday, 14 June 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link
Wow
(Whatever happened to that New Mutants movie that was being developed; is that still on?)
― Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Friday, 14 June 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link
The film is mentioned in that article.
― Tuomas, Friday, 14 June 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
Its release date has been pushed back about a half dozen times and, with Disney's acquisition of Fox and assured future incorporation of mutants into the MCU, seems likely to get a quiet MOD release sometime in 2025.
― Morrie Antoilette (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 June 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
I read somewhere that the audience testing for the Mutants film was absolutely dire, so I think it's lost in reshoot/editing hell
― Brakhage, Friday, 14 June 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
Silver Surfer Black is pretty good; kinda like a Rick Griffin take visually
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 June 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link
Muthafuckin Scioli following in Piskor's footsteps and bring us the gift of Fantastic Four: Grand Design, y'all. That is just speechlessifyingly good news.
― Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link
Have u heard about this thing they're doing, "Marvel Comics #1000"? Sounds kinda cool: https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/marvel-comics-1000-celebrates-marvel-s-80-year-legacy
― stan by me (morrisp), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link
I mean potentially so but I'm not expecting much more than Heroes for Hope 2: Hope Harder.
― Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link
oh shit, i'm excited by that Scioli info! Really looking forward to that.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link
I like Scioli a lot but find this sort of disappointing tbh. Piskor's X-Men: Grand Design was mildly entertaining but it just underscored how random and stupid X-Men lore is. Would've preferred it if he'd kept cranking out Hip Hop Family Tree, which was like an actual act of public service.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link
I do wish I could read Scioli's Kirby Comic, is that just an Instagram thing or will that ever be printed/collected?
Sorry that you have to wait a little longer for Scioli's Madballs vs. MUSCLE, shakes. Hope you survive the experience.
― Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link
I do wish I could read Scioli's Kirby Comic
More than this?: http://www.tomscioli.com/?p=280
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 23:48 (four years ago) link
not coming out till October in any case by the look of it
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 00:50 (four years ago) link
loved X-Men Grand Design, looking forward to this!
― Nhex, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link
this took me a second to get the joek tbh
GI Joe vs Transformers is amazing fyi
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link
yeah I hate reading comics onscreen, I want a printed version!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link
xpost I know, bruh! Scioli can do no wrong imo (haven't read his GoBots mini yet, tbf). He had some delightfully weird Wonder Twins backups in one of the Young Animal titles for those who may have missed it.
― Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link
Anyone reading these hyped up new X-Titles?
― 60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 04:20 (four years ago) link
i'm pretty excited by Powers/House of X #1. lots of groundwork already.not super excited about following 6 new titles in October, might just two the two Hickmans and ignore the rest
― Nhex, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 05:34 (four years ago) link
yeah it’s early but the Hick-Men books seem promising
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 05:40 (four years ago) link
They’re not bad.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 11:52 (four years ago) link
I have a few theories about what's actually going on in the Hickman X-books but I'd be outing my knowledge of too-many-X-things from the last decade of relatively mediocre books
― untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link
They really have been mediocre. Both X-Men and their putative replacements the Inhumans have suffered from Perlmutter's infantile edicts over the past several years. Here's hoping Hickman and co. can right the ship.
― Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link
the multiple simultaneous timeline's is a neat trick but i could see it wearing thin quickly.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/marvel-ike-perlmutter/
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
I'd love to hear theories! I like it so far, but every second page I go 'huh, weren't they dead?'
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
I've read some of the Uncanny X-Men '19 reboot and skipped the big Age of X-Man event entirely (again, god, so many books to follow just for that. skipped War of the Realms for the same reason. Marvel's out of control) so can someone who has been following them explain to me how Hickman is able to do essentially a hard reboot of the entire X-Men timeline? Did Nate Grey blow shit up a second time? Or is that deliberately obscure at the moment for the story?
I mean I even read this and was still left scratching my head on a lot of things (especially at the reveal that Chuck was resurrected in.. Astonishing X-Men? at some point?) but I'm still amazed that Marvel grim-rebooted X-Men in December '18 (X-Termination/new Uncanny #1) only to re-reboot it in 7 months. I hope there's a good explanation for Pirate X-men and two edgelord kill-team books.
― Nhex, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
I'm not up to date but apparently they had Hickman lined up for a while and were secretly laying the groundwork for his run at least as early as the most recent Uncanny reboot.
― Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link
Also from what I understand the Age of X crossover, despite being yet another alternate universe narrative, apparently does figure in to Hickman's plans.
Sorry so vague and possibly wrong. I've been trying to glean news without encountering spoilers.
― Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
I think Xavier's in The World (the one Fantomex is from) pulling recreations of his original X-Men from pods, calling his mutant homeland "Krakoa" as some sort of veiled reference, and doing accelerated time experiments at the same time we're being show glimpses of a far-flung future and humanity's being offered medical solutions that seem ahead of their time
“All this structured chaos reeks of machination” -- line Hickman's already used in Secret Wars but will probably paraphrase in six months
― untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link
The fact that 'Powers of X', the book that takes place in years 1, 10, 100 and 1000 of X-men history, is pronounced 'Powers of Ten' is so stupid that I absolutely love it.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link
Hey guys I read a recent Marvel comic! It was Tom King's Vision. Pretty good, not as good as Miracle Man, which both had better art and a layer of narrative ambiguity that I liked.
Also made me kinda bummed out that superhero comics are so murder-y now. Which is weird given that no one stays dead. Like, narratively we are still supposed to register murder as extreme, transgressive, dramatic, etc. even though its impact has been undermined by both overuse and its lack of lasting consequences.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link
art imitating life there
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
was unaware of people constantly rising from the dead irl but maybe I'm missing something
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link
"narratively we are still supposed to register murder as extreme, transgressive, dramatic, etc. even though its impact has been undermined by both overuse and its lack of lasting consequences" = the past four days of news
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
oh I got the reference I just don't agree that that's analogous
death in the real world always has consequences
murder has been very common throughout human history (comics, not so much) and not really convinced this era is any more murderous than previous eras tbh
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link
dunno if comparing modern age to bronze age either irl or in marvel eras is ever going to be partic fruitful.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
why not? it seems to me like the levels of murder in mainstream superhero comics is fairly easy to track and it's gone from non-existent to super-rare to fairly common to omnipresent
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link
rip comics code
― untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link
Spoiler: mainstream (read: Marvel, those being the ones I read and am most familiar with) comics aren't actually all that murdery, at least inasmuch as murder is by no means omnipresent. The books with a high body count are enough of an outlier that they're fairly noteworthy.
― Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link
So five (I think?) people getting murdered in this Vision book was an outlier?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link
my opinion is that everyone who wants to read marvel comics should be buying more issues of unbeatable squirrel girl
― untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link
xxp well i wasn't looking to have a serious conversation about this, but i would suggest that graphic murder in mainstream comics was an every issue thing in the thirties and forties, waned considerably through the fifties, mostly disappeared in the era of the comics code and then came roaring back as a grim and gritty thing throughout the 90's and 00's. homicide as character development is currently undeniaby lodged in the goiterous throats of marvel and dcs glut of more mediocre titles; i think you could argue that's a side effect of the mid-90's death of superman/breaking of batman? anyway, i blame geoff johns.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link