"Big Two" Characters Created In The Last Ten Years That You'd Actually Like To See More Of

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From the Astonishing X-Men thread.

BONUS POINTS if they weren't created by Grant Morrison!

― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 7 May 2006 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Molly from Runaways and Vivisector from X-Statix.

― c(''c) (Leee), Sunday, 7 May 2006 20:59 (twenty years ago)

Cecilia Reyes
MAGGOTT

― Dan (Go Third-String X-Men, Go!) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 7 May 2006 21:26 (twenty years ago)

Runaways, in general.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 7 May 2006 21:53 (twenty years ago)

Do Vertigo and Wildstorm/ABC count, or are we just going for the mainstream universes? I can't think of any vertigo ones off the top of my head, but virtually every Moore ABC character has lots of potential.

― chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Sunday, 7 May 2006 22:22 (twenty years ago)

I think we should limit this to mainstream Marvel and DC, because the issue is more about those universes producing memorable new characters as opposed to milking old characters.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 7 May 2006 22:57 (twenty years ago)

At least four of the X-Statix: Guy, Tike, Edie, and Dead Girl. Hopefully there'll be more to come after the DG mini.

― chocolate kuegelhopf (Garrett Martin), Monday, 8 May 2006 00:01 (twenty years ago)

Young Avengers.

Do the Ultimate characters count?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 8 May 2006 00:03 (twenty years ago)

I suddenly realize I don't think I know of any 'big two' characters created in the last ten years.

Man.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 8 May 2006 00:47 (twenty years ago)

Well, as I mentioned in the other thread, I think Cassandra Nova is the only major new supervillain at either company created since at least the late 80s/early 90s.

In terms of minor villains, Director Davis from the FBI in Daredevil is pretty great.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 8 May 2006 01:19 (twenty years ago)

Chase!.

― Amadeo (Amadeo G.), Monday, 8 May 2006 04:55 (twenty years ago)

Chase has barely been away. Her role is to pop up as a supporting character about six episodes before the book is cancelled.

I really liked the Morrison Hourman (1,000,000 one) (who wrote the main series?), but that concept has been completely retconned by now I think. And not exactly a new concept.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 8 May 2006 06:53 (twenty years ago)

Tom Peyer wrote it. Vic F was a big fan of that series too but I never 'got' it.

Young Avengers = RUB ON A STICK!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 8 May 2006 09:05 (twenty years ago)

The black skull thingy character was a good villain in Catwoman. But I can't remember his name, so never mind. ("The Black Skull"?)

Is Oracle the past 10 years? Not an especially memorable character, but seems to "fit" in the DCU compared to some of the other 90s monstrosities.

As there's a Morrsion ban I won't mention Chubby.

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 8 May 2006 10:22 (twenty years ago)

Wait, does Jessica Jones count? She's okay.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 8 May 2006 11:11 (twenty years ago)

This Spider-man character has legs I think.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 8 May 2006 12:00 (twenty years ago)

yeah but he needs like six more to really live up to that name

― chocolate kuegelhopf (Garrett Martin), Monday, 8 May 2006 12:12 (twenty years ago)

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― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 May 2006 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Fantomex (no bonus points for me)

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 May 2006 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Two legs bad! Eight legs good!

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 8 May 2006 12:47 (twenty years ago)

Oracle doesn't count! Barbara Gordon been around since the 50s or something!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 8 May 2006 12:55 (twenty years ago)

60s, but I think she first started appearing as Oracle in Ostrander's Suicide circa 1990, so even Oracle doesn't count.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:29 (twenty years ago)

Fantomex is down and out already, Joe Q apparently hates him.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:35 (twenty years ago)

Surely there's been a Bizarro Batman before, but does Jeph Loeb's Batzarro count? Or is he merely a narrative construct that in one panel redeems 21 previous issues of pretentious interior dialogue? (which might be a thread of its own--narrative constructs that redeem poop)

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:11 (twenty years ago)

The Black Mask, that was who I meant. He's dead now anyway.

IF you can go for reinventions in the past 10 years, surely Slam Bradley's the best new DCU character.

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:15 (twenty years ago)

slam bradley or whatever from catwoman?

― dave k, Monday, 8 May 2006 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't Slam Bradley a Shuster/Siegel creation featured in Detective Comics #1? But yeah, reinvented in Catwoman.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:28 (twenty years ago)

http://www.thrillingdetective.com/slam.html

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:38 (twenty years ago)

Valeria Doom.

The giant puppy from Fantastic Four.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Fantomex is down and out already, Joe Q apparently hates him.

Quesada is a dipshit. Fantomex has an incredible potential - I mean, a writer could have so much fun with the fact that he has no real identity, that he just decided to be French. He could decide to be a lot of things, try on lots of different personalities, all the while being a manipulative asshole! It could be great.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:06 (twenty years ago)

Prometheus. For the one-man anti-Justice-League, he's been a bit crap since Morrison's last hurrah with him.

I didn't think of myself as a HUGE fan of Hourman at the time, but looking back now - yeah, comics about nothing, Snapper's antidote to all the bloody Johnsian 'you must achieve achiiiieeeeve the true HERO status, your own happiness means NOTHING' do-good smugfaces, I'd happily have this title back. None of the covers were all that good, mind, and it did fall off the horse a little towards the end.

― Vic F (Vic Fluro), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Fantomex has an incredible potential - I mean, a writer could have so much fun with the fact that he has no real identity, that he just decided to be French. He could decide to be a lot of things, try on lots of different personalities, all the while being a manipulative asshole!

JQ is just serving Morrison his desserts for ripping off teh MEROVINGIAN!!!

― c(''c) (Leee), Monday, 8 May 2006 16:54 (twenty years ago)

When did Orca first appear?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 8 May 2006 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Oh, shut up.

― ILC-L (Huk-L), Monday, 8 May 2006 17:01 (twenty years ago)

IDENTITY CRISIS!

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 May 2006 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Anyway:

1) DOOP!
2) Thee Original Crispus Allen
2a) Since that ain't gonna happen - GC's STACY!

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 May 2006 17:23 (twenty years ago)

Naif al-Sheikh from Justice League Elite. Sort of an Arab Batman (in the Grant Morrison JLA current of Batman as supersmart, cynical dude).

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:15 (twenty years ago)

the Naive Sheik?

I'm only four trades into GM's X-Men, but I'm thinking Xorn is quite a great character. Too bad some asshole spoiled that whole thing for me a few days back. Some asshole named Wikipedia.

― chocolate kuegelhopf (Garrett Martin), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)

(and it wasn't the Wikipedia entry for Xorn or X-Men or anything else, but some other Marvel thing only tangentially related to the whole deal. forget what, though. it's like looking for more info on a power droid and finding out Vader's Luke's father, or something.)

― chocolate kuegelhopf (Garrett Martin), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:26 (twenty years ago)

xpost, yeah, the name is pretty naff--I actually had to google "Joe Kelly arab" to find out his name, since I didn't remember it, because most of the JL Elite series was pretty naff, but he was a cool character.

NB Is "naff" a Brit term or Legion slang?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:40 (twenty years ago)

Fantomax was really, really, really stupid.

― Dan (And I Like MAGGOTT) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:56 (twenty years ago)

I didn't really enjoy Fantomex that much when I was reading the series, but I like to think of how much I'd love to write the character into something rather different than what was seen in New X-Men.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Also, EVA in Here Comes Tomorrow! C'mon!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Naff is Brit slang. Only someone naff would use it though.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0099317605/104-4396837-7531138?v=glance&n=283155

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:45 (twenty years ago)

Vader is Luke's father?

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

― David N (David N.), Monday, 8 May 2006 23:02 (twenty years ago)

The Slingers were pretty good. Kinda weird how a good series spins off a craptastic Spider-Man event.

― Amadeo (Amadeo G.), Monday, 8 May 2006 23:03 (twenty years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/Leonvader.jpg

"If you only knew the power of Vader Time!"

― c(''c) (Leee), Monday, 8 May 2006 23:14 (twenty years ago)

I guess Vader's White Castle of Fear is pretty good, but I generally prefer the Krystal of Chickenheartedness, myself.

― chocolate kuegelhopf (Garrett Martin), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 02:05 (twenty years ago)

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